I've had good luck with Motul 600. There was only a $3 difference between ATE and Motul.
I thought that if you ran out of ATE i.e. At the track, it was bad to mix with another brand. And I didn't think that was an issue with Motul. any truth to this?
I use mercedes benz factory fluid, very comparable to all the "top" brands and I have acess to it for free.
It's silicon fluid (DOT 5 I think) that can't be mixed and requires a full flush.
How often should fluid be change, my car has sat quite a but the last 4 years and that is the last time the system was flushed
How often should fluid be change, my car has sat quite a but the last 4 years and that is the last time the system was flushed
I don't recall the sizes.....I thought they were the same but I'll check next time.
Vicious: Most motorcycle shops carry Motul
The best street fluid is Ate Super Blue / Ate Typ 200 DOT 4. It has very good dry and wet boiling points and will last 50% longer between flushes.
I spoke with an engineer at Continental Teves (USA) and he explained that Ate Super Blue / Ate Type 200 has the ability to hold more moisture in suspension with less performance loss than any other brake fluid. This is extremely important in street applications and why you can easily extend your flush intervals. It's NOT about how little moisture brake fluid attracts, it's about how well brake fluid copes with moisture.
I buy mine from OG Racing on line for $13.95 per liter (note website says 500 ml in description. It's a 1000 ml / 1 liter metal can. They sell a lot of it so their stock is fresh.
Compare the dry and wet numbers:
536F Dry boiling point
395F Wet boiling point
This fluid exceeds Federal standards for DOT 5.1 of 518F dry and 375F wet.
Compare to Motul RBF 600 DOT 5.1
617F Dry boiling point - great for flying into Turn 9 at Willow Springs at 170MPH.
400F Wet boiling point - only 5F higher than Ate Super Blue and the only number that counts for street use.
Motul RBF 600 5.1 costs $31.95 / 500ml from OG Racing. That's $63.90 per liter vs. Ate super Blue at $13.95 per liter. Way to much for an extra 5F.
Castrol GT DOT 4:
509F Dry boiling point
311F West boiling point
Ate has an 84F higher wet boiling point than Castrol.
Super Blue and Typ 200 are the same except for color. Switch colors to know when you've bled out the old fluid. Federal requirements for brake fluid include an amber color, so technically Super Blue doesn't meet US Government standards.
Ate Super Blue /Typ 200 comes in sealed metal cans, so the shelf life of an unopened can is much better than fluid in plastic bottles.
Valvoline used to make a pretty good fluid, but downgraded the specifications. Unfortunately, the last time I checked the website, Valvoline still had the old datasheet with better numbers displayed which do not match the new lower specs on the product description.
How could I fail as an AMSOIL representative without ever buying any AMSOIL products? Do you even bother reading the quotes you quote?
My biggest problem with AMSOIL is representatives who use anecdotal evidence as proof of product superiority and AMSOIL not stopping them.
You might not like Amsoil's MLM setup, but they consistently produce very good to excellent products. There's more to Amsoil than their marketing for sure.
That DOT color regulation is absolutely rediculous! They require it be clear or amber so it won't be mistaken for other automotive fluids..
Next they'll be coming after RP! Kids might confuse it with grape drink.