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21 degrees timing and 84 degrees in the shop after several hot runs.
justice
21 degrees timing and 84 degrees in the shop after several hot runs.
justice
Whipple. 17lb dyno results 600 RWHP
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Very Nice Numbers Congrats
The weight of the car inputed does matter. This is why your numbers are so high for a MD. Having the wrong weight jacks up the load really bad, and it does not put as much on the vehicle, therefore it appears as though you make more power than you did. Have the shop do it again for free. I would say that you are still probably close to 560-570 when they re-run it with the appropriate MD supplied numbers. Translated to a dynojet, that would put you between 600-610. Maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less.
-Jeff
-Jeff
21 degrees of timing is a bit much with the whipple on pump gas.IMO anyone with over 600rwhp on a whipple has achieved it by getting agressive with the timing. From what I have seen all those over 600rwhp with a whipple are pushing over 19 degrees of timing. I wouldn't go higher then 19 degeees, but that's just me. I'm at 590rwhp @ 17lbs and 17 degrees of timing.
Also +1 on Hissmans comments.
Also +1 on Hissmans comments.
Along with the weight jacking the numbers, other Steeda.ca customer have reported the use of converted DynoJet-guesstimate numbers.
Tucker
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Perfect uncorrected numbers, should be about 560-570 SAE.
Nice!
Jay
Nice!
Jay
WDW MKR said:
I really hate it when shops do that. I can understand why they do it, but they should be up front with how inaccurate the guesstimation is. It is almost like they know what it would probably make on a Dyno-jet, then just screw around with the settings until they get it.
And as others have stated. 21 degrees of timing on 93 octane and 17lbs of boost is a no-no.
-Jeff
Venomous01 said:
+2 on Hissman
I am going with 17lbs @ 17 degrees at my dyno tune later this month. It will be hot and humid outside so i hope I get numbers even close to yours (venomous01) :beer:
HISSMAN said:
dead on... agreed X2. The first 2 seconds into reading it was a mustang dyno and the weight I new it was off.
Steeda.ca tunes your car properly loaded for a mustang dyno. Then does a last pull under dynojet calibrations to give you an approx. dynojet HP/TRQ for comparison. There dyno #'s are SAE
Sorry double post
Ontariomystic said:
The weight is still wrong. Changing the weight of the car is not the correct way to do the dyno-jet to MD conversion. This is not to say that the numbers are not close to being accurate. It's just not the way to do it.
-Jeff
HISSMAN said:
+1
You can't guess DJ numbers from an MD. I know tuners say you can, and I know their dyno software supposedly has a calibrated conversion, but everytime this is done the numbers are inflated. If you want DJ numbers... go dyno on a DJ. Otherwise, post the appropriate corrected numbers for whatever dyno you are on and go from there. Too many people/shops using dyno numbers to prove/sell things rather than what they are for: tuning.
Not sure why a shop would let you leave with 21* of timing with a twin screw on pump fuel.
All of you who claim the dyno is off I will personally pay for you to dyno your car at my shop and then at neighbouring dyno jets. Our facility with a dynojet configuration has ALWAYS been within 5rwhp of all local dynojet's
The PWR@50 and Weight figures are used when acheving DJ numbers, including the drum weight and other settings that are not displayed on screen.
The PWR@50 and Weight figures are used when acheving DJ numbers, including the drum weight and other settings that are not displayed on screen.
I just know when I had mine done on a Mustang Dyno where his numbers say 3400 mine said 3700. I also run on both a Mustang and a dynojet in two different towns so people of all kinds can like the numbers. When I asked the Mustang Dyno operator how it compares to a dyno jet he said the guy at Mustang dyno said 5-10% difference and left it at that. He did not try and convert my numbers or anything.
IMO
1. Nice numbers, and nice car. I have about the same mods and the thing is just Fun to driver and crazy. After you get to the 550 to 570 who cares.
570 or 615rwh the car is sick. Dont crash it and dont blow it up.
2. put it on a dyno jet if you want there numbers. The main thing is that its tuned rite and safe.
Good job to all.
1. Nice numbers, and nice car. I have about the same mods and the thing is just Fun to driver and crazy. After you get to the 550 to 570 who cares.
570 or 615rwh the car is sick. Dont crash it and dont blow it up.
2. put it on a dyno jet if you want there numbers. The main thing is that its tuned rite and safe.
Good job to all.
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