What pisses me off is ford should've put the info out before opening the orderin banks. Excited mustang nuts will get I regardless but those that are actually after performance want specifics. I just don't get what the hold up is. Do they wanna sell mustangs or not?
Weight Gained 200-300 pounds!
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What pisses me off is ford should've put the info out before opening the orderin banks. Excited mustang nuts will get I regardless but those that are actually after performance want specifics. I just don't get what the hold up is. Do they wanna sell mustangs or not?
Just because we are mustang nuts doesn't mean we are not after "performance". I'm after performance. I'm just going after it regardless of what Ford puts out. I love it when a challenge arises with the car industry. But hell 200-300 lbs is not much of a challenge. It's just like when I ran NMRA Factory Stock with my little white 2v car. Everyone said I couldn't get my car to run a good number or get it down to 2850 lbs race weight under the rules with me in it. Love a challenge!
Actually, the only reason I am even considering the '15 is because I heard it was supposed to be lighter than the current model, I wonder if that is still the case, but only if you get the EB model...
I guess I'm getting old, because I don't want to have to sacrifice the comforts of the car to get it down to weight.
I guess I'm getting old, because I don't want to have to sacrifice the comforts of the car to get it down to weight.
But the truth is with a front engine rear wheel drive car you can only add so much weight. The Camaro is a great example of this. Your type of logic is what sold the ZL1. That car sucked everywhere, and is the best example of throwing suspension and horsepower at a heavy weight car.
I guess the 2020 mustang should weigh 4500 pounds and have 1000 horsepower right?
I guess your nit understanding my "logic". I never said I hope they added weight. I merely stated that if they did add this weight it can be offset by reducing its weight with traditional methods we all have used with mustangs. Adding power is also an option. I am happy either way. I love the platform and the revisions made to the 5.0. So lets not get carried away with assumptions of another persons "logic". As you very well know what assumptions do. A good example seems to be this assumption by Steeda.
It would be unfortunate if the Mustang gained weight and the Camaro lost weight! Then people could no longer call the Camaro fat and ugly, just ugly.
I just do not see the 2015 Mustang gaining 200 plus pounds. Ford has stated that they met their weight reduction goals for the 2015 Mustang. Ford has stated the 2015 Mustang GT will be faster than the 2013 Boss 302. Now, if the new Mustang GT is heavier than the Boss302, it would not be faster than the Boss 302. The new Mustang is to have aluminum fenders and a large part of the IRS is aluminum . Larger brakes rotors may add some weight, but the current Mustangs had brake rotors that are not that much smaller. There is no way past estimates of weight gains apply to the newer lighter materials used in the production of new cars. Someone at Steeda just was not in the know.
it is still a bigger car (even if only slightly so) with more standard features. Dropping 200 lbs is one thing but adding more standard features, we'll call it 100-150 lbs, and THEN expecting to still lose 200 lbs... well, now you're asking Ford to take 350 or so lbs off of a full street weight car with creature comforts... going to take more than just fenders to do that.
What are the standard features that will be added to the new Mustang that are not on the current Mustang ? From what I hear, most of the new standard features are just electronic enhancements. Electronics are continually made smaller and lighter. We need a list of the weights of each standard feature to determine if there is an overall weight gain. Ford has had a policy for years that any component that adds weight has to have an engineer personally sign off for the weight increase. I just do not see many engineers willing to take on such a responsibility.
Did they state that they met their weight loss target, overall weight target, or any iteration in between? There could be a sea of difference in a few seemingly simple words. Example.......The car could put on 400# throughout the design, but knock 200# off through weight savings measures. They could still say that they hit their weight savings goals, even though the car is 200# heavier. The media/public is left to spin it however they want. I am sure they carefully planned out every single statement to spin in their favor. That exact same thing happened with the C7 launch. The PR machine touted the 100# weight savings by moving to the Al frame, but always seemed to leave out until the very last moment, the fact that 250# was added along the way.
One thing is fore sure, no OEM launching their flagship would even remotely hint at a significant weight gain right in the middle of their PR frenzy and risk losing momentum. They would deflect that until the very end. On the other hand, any significant weight savings would likely be blasted all over the place. At this point in the launch, it's all about the advancements with this new car. The compromises and trade-offs will come later.
Damn you, why do you have to make so much business sense?
I see what you did there...
roflmao
Ford better weigh on this soon!
Here is Chief Mustang Engineer, Dave Pericak last year saying losing 200 pounds is within reach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF924X3c4Tw#t=271
"we are definitely going on a crusade to do that." (referring to losing weight)
If you then show up a year later and new car is gaining a few hundred, that is a huge fail. They see the biggest complaint / jab at the Camaro is its weight/size, well maybe 2nd to visibility/blindspots. So what does Ford do? Go gain more weight? Camaro shares platform with ATS, correct? Its 3300 pounds, add some weight for engine/beefier drivetrain/brakes its still going to be be lighter.
"we are definitely going on a crusade to do that." (referring to losing weight)
If you then show up a year later and new car is gaining a few hundred, that is a huge fail. They see the biggest complaint / jab at the Camaro is its weight/size, well maybe 2nd to visibility/blindspots. So what does Ford do? Go gain more weight? Camaro shares platform with ATS, correct? Its 3300 pounds, add some weight for engine/beefier drivetrain/brakes its still going to be be lighter.
Sorry guys but if the Camaro weigh's 3400-3600 pounds it's game over for the 3800 pound GT Mustang.
They said it would be lighter.
They said it would be faster.
It wasn't.
Just kidding guys, but seriously though.
Kelly, 25 - 30 pounds MORE or LESS? Thanks. Tom
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