Trump: vets are "losers" and "suckers"

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Wow, that's some categorically false bullshit.

December 31 2019 - CDC becomes aware of covid-19 and immediately starts gathering and briefing information.

January 6 - Trump offers CDC services to China and is denied.

Jan 14 - WHO says studies say there is no human to human transmission

Jan 17 - Trump's CDC starts rerouting incoming at risk people to specific airports for screening and testing. The CDC also states that current information shows Americans aren't at risk. It's important to note that the CDC started work

Jan 22 - Trump - “We have it totally under control, it is one person, coming in from China"

Also Jan 22 - CDC hasn't confirmed human to human transmission

January 28 - the WHO maintains that risk is low. Despite that starting Trump expands airport screenings and releases funding to screen travelers and mandates, MANDATES, traveler quarantines.

What did Democrats do when Trump mandated traveler quarantines? They lost their shit and called him Hitler.

January 30 - CDC confirms first human to human infection.

January 31 - Trump closes travel from China.

The Democrat response?

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Biden's response?
“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia.”

Feb 4 - Trump instructs FDA to implement testing procedures

Feb 18 - CDC, “risk to Americans from coronavirus is low.”

Feb 20 - Trump raiders Korea and Japan travel restrictions to the highest level.

Feb 24 - Nancy Pelosi stands in the middle of a crowded street in China Town and tells the world that Trump is a racist for restricting China travel and invites people to come to China Town and socialize openly without masks.

Feb 26 - CDC announces first human to human transmission in the US

Feb 29 - first American dies

March 11 - WHO declares a pandemic

March 12 - Trump restricts European travel. DEMOCRATS LOSE THEIR MINDS. BIDEN OPENLY CRITICIZES THE DECISION.

March 13 - Trump declares a national emergency

Get the **** out of here with your bullshit. Democrats claiming Trump didn't do anything can eat a ****ing dick too

Excellent post! I'll say it again. The Trump team need to make this into a tv campaign ad.
 

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When rumors of Trump running for president started, the political elites went into full panic mode. There was no way in hell that they were going to let , not just an outsider, a completely unknown uncontrolled candidate in the race. Before Trump ever came down the escalator, they had their strategy books ready to go. It wasn't from the left, or the right, neither Democrat or Republican, it was the powers of Washington. They didn't sink him in the primaries, they didn't get him in the election, now they are stuck in the final chapters of their strategy books, and still nothing works.
The Wuhan I believe is just a target of opportunity. In the beginning there was so much information and disinformation flying that no professional could make sense of it, let alone us laymen schmuks trying to wade through the nightly news. Then came the shutdowns, two weeks to slow the spread, one month to slow the spread, close everything until there is a treatment, stay closed until there is a vaccine. (AIDS is a virus, still haven't seen a vaccine for that) Stay closed until at least the elections.
We are being played, and when the truth eventually comes out it will be well after all of the players are beyond reach.
 

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Someone earlier posted that most vets fake there disabilities. Not true at least the vets and retirees I know including me. 21 years in the Air Force as a Carpenter and they beat the snot out of me. No faking anything here. And I truly believe that President Trump loves the military and is going to kick ass Nov 3.
 

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I did 21 years in the USAF humping bombs. Messed up my back pretty good. I also got tinnitus from working around running aircraft and turbine powered generators. I did not file for any disability when I retired because it wasn't the USAF fault my back and hearing are messed up, it's mine. Lifting with my back instead of my knees is my fault. Not wearing hearing protection when I should have is my fault.

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Someone earlier posted that most vets fake there disabilities. Not true at least the vets and retirees I know including me. 21 years in the Air Force as a Carpenter and they beat the snot out of me. No faking anything here. And I truly believe that President Trump loves the military and is going to kick ass Nov 3.

I am a disabled vet as well. No faking. I have a 30% disability. I know a number of disable vets. None are faking.

I did 21 years in the USAF humping bombs. Messed up my back pretty good. I also got tinnitus from working around running aircraft and turbine powered generators. I did not file for any disability when I retired because it wasn't the USAF fault my back and hearing are messed up, it's mine. Lifting with my back instead of my knees is my fault. Not wearing hearing protection when I should have is my fault.

U.M.

All of my friends but one are Vets, literally. I have acquaintances that never served but that's it. Several of my Vet friends have ratings and I know for a fact not a single one is faking it. However, I do unfortunately know of a few that are genuinely faking it and have gone as far as to use stories and experiences of others to get or increase ratings for PTSD. One of them is in the process of scamming the system and due to his own fat mouth is now under investigation which brings a smile to my face. I genuinely hope he looses something when its all over and done with.

All I am getting at here is while your ratings are the real deal lets not ignore that the fakes and scammers exist just like with regular disability.
 

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All I hear now is panic for kids in schools, higher covid rates in adults who go to restaurants etc. More negativity and panic..why the attack on restaurants and owners? They truly have ZERO regard for anyone's lives, whether it be health or finances. The left is truly trying to destroy the country. For a while I felt it was good that we have over a month to get this crap out in the open. Let people see the truth. My concern now is how much more damage that may be done over the next month before trump can lay the smack down.
 

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I did 21 years in the USAF humping bombs. Messed up my back pretty good. I also got tinnitus from working around running aircraft and turbine powered generators. I did not file for any disability when I retired because it wasn't the USAF fault my back and hearing are messed up, it's mine. Lifting with my back instead of my knees is my fault. Not wearing hearing protection when I should have is my fault.

U.M.

Its righteous of you to take the "blame" for those things, it may be misplaced.

We signed a contract at a very young age (18 for me). That contract allowed the service to utilize me in almost any way they saw fit. In your case it was to handle heavy ordnance in the vicinity of very loud noises. I am sure they provided safety training and PPE, BUT, you were still damaged while being utilized by the service at their whim. That's not "on you" IMHO.

My tinnitus was from a very strong antibiotic some military doctor prescribed that I had to take. Remember, what military doctors prescribe is akin to a lawful order as we are "owned" by the service. That crap messed me up pretty bad, tinnitus, vertigo, and dizziness from just one thing. I had like 4 other "service connected" disabilities added to it. NONE of which I had when I joined. yup, they got their use out of me for 27 years, I did some damage to myself along the way I guess, but when I joined, healthy 18 year old, after 27 years of doing as directed...yeah...some damage was done.

Sorry about being off topic.
 

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I did 21 years in the USAF humping bombs. Messed up my back pretty good. I also got tinnitus from working around running aircraft and turbine powered generators. I did not file for any disability when I retired because it wasn't the USAF fault my back and hearing are messed up, it's mine. Lifting with my back instead of my knees is my fault. Not wearing hearing protection when I should have is my fault.

U.M.

There are not many folks left like you out there. Much respect.


Its righteous of you to take the "blame" for those things, it may be misplaced.

We signed a contract at a very young age (18 for me). That contract allowed the service to utilize me in almost any way they saw fit. In your case it was to handle heavy ordnance in the vicinity of very loud noises. I am sure they provided safety training and PPE, BUT, you were still damaged while being utilized by the service at their whim. That's not "on you" IMHO.

My tinnitus was from a very strong antibiotic some military doctor prescribed that I had to take. Remember, what military doctors prescribe is akin to a lawful order as we are "owned" by the service. That crap messed me up pretty bad, tinnitus, vertigo, and dizziness from just one thing. I had like 4 other "service connected" disabilities added to it. NONE of which I had when I joined. yup, they got their use out of me for 27 years, I did some damage to myself along the way I guess, but when I joined, healthy 18 year old, after 27 years of doing as directed...yeah...some damage was done.

Sorry about being off topic.

Perhaps you missed the part where he said he was offered the protections of the job but failed to utilize.
 

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There are not many folks left like you out there. Much respect.




Perhaps you missed the part where he said he was offered the protections of the job but failed to utilize.

I know it’s not the “ same “ but the oil field claims to offer “ protections “ but ehhhh, the shit we deal with.. chemicals, h2s, etc

Utilization only goes so far in certain aspects of many careers. At the end of the day with every precaution in place we could hit a hydrogen sulfide pocket and we are all dead
 

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Yep.. all jobs have risk. Some (obviously) more than others.

At the end of the day, we still make a choice.
 

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Its righteous of you to take the "blame" for those things, it may be misplaced.

We signed a contract at a very young age (18 for me). That contract allowed the service to utilize me in almost any way they saw fit. In your case it was to handle heavy ordnance in the vicinity of very loud noises. I am sure they provided safety training and PPE, BUT, you were still damaged while being utilized by the service at their whim. That's not "on you" IMHO.

My tinnitus was from a very strong antibiotic some military doctor prescribed that I had to take. Remember, what military doctors prescribe is akin to a lawful order as we are "owned" by the service. That crap messed me up pretty bad, tinnitus, vertigo, and dizziness from just one thing. I had like 4 other "service connected" disabilities added to it. NONE of which I had when I joined. yup, they got their use out of me for 27 years, I did some damage to myself along the way I guess, but when I joined, healthy 18 year old, after 27 years of doing as directed...yeah...some damage was done.

Sorry about being off topic.

LOL. Service or not, I don't think anyone here will argue against feeling better and healthier at the age of 18 vs 45. Much respect for those that served--this is in no way a knock against those that join our military. I'm just saying, even if you had an office job for 27 years, shit hurts that didn't used to.
 

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I did 21 years in the USAF humping bombs. Messed up my back pretty good. I also got tinnitus from working around running aircraft and turbine powered generators. I did not file for any disability when I retired because it wasn't the USAF fault my back and hearing are messed up, it's mine. Lifting with my back instead of my knees is my fault. Not wearing hearing protection when I should have is my fault.

U.M.
We use to hump a few 82(62 Mine) and 83 (63 Mine) bomb bodies with the bars that screwed into the front & rear wells. We tried not to that too much and usually used a Boom or Forklift with boom adaptors. Hard to use those to load planes though.
 

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LOL. Service or not, I don't think anyone here will argue against feeling better and healthier at the age of 18 vs 45. Much respect for those that served--this is in no way a knock against those that join our military. I'm just saying, even if you had an office job for 27 years, shit hurts that didn't used to.

There is a difference. You can say NO.
 

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If you’ve so much as completed basic training, you know that the military will give you instructions to complete a task that are impossible. Try talking to the guy in the cockpit during a 100% engine run with your earplugs in. Try to punch a pogo on a U2 without ever lifting the wing with your back.
 

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There is a difference. You can say NO.

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I remember in the training class, being told, " no exposure to ionizing radiation is safe ",..........to protect yourself use, " time, distance, & shielding !!
Spent over half my career wearing a dosimeter, on a couple of " hot " jobs,...several..
 

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I remember in the training class, being told, " no exposure to ionizing radiation is safe ",..........to protect yourself use, " time, distance, & shielding !!
Spent over half my career wearing a dosimeter, on a couple of " hot " jobs,...several..
We were limited to 30 minutes a day max when working in the storage igloos where the 30MM APIT was stored. Those depleted uranium penetrators are no joke when there's a 100,000 of them surrounding you.

U.M.
 

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