" Most " of the issues with the FRPP mono-blade turn out to be tune related.
Some tuners can't !!
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Some tuners can't !!
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Thinking About Monoblade
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Tuners such as Lund and AED are saying it's Accufab and Accufab says it's the tune. I'm on the side of the tuners, if Accufab has quality control to where all throttle bodies are within a strict tolerance it should be fairly consistent to tune. Therefore tuners being able to tune 9 out of 10 for example leads me to believe that one out of ten is defective not that the tuner is incompetent at tuning.
So how did the TB swap and tune turn out on Tuesday???
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Still waiting guys. Due to relocating and distance I decided to switch shops for this mod . Sorry to say the tuner could not get the " tip in" on the mono blade to do anything but cause an error or " wrench light'. First he had to write a base tune which I was fine with. But I sat at the shop for 6 hours only to leave for home with my Twin Blade tune reinstalled and a big question as to why the heck I was doing this ? But now I'm invested in the SCJ Mono.
I returned to the shop that wrote the original tune. They've done the mono blade on other Mustangs and their response set my mind at ease. I was told all that would initiially be required after base pull is for the TB signal to be adjusted in their tune then look for tweaks for drive ability and any potential for power. . Install is 2 days ...this Thursday.
I returned to the shop that wrote the original tune. They've done the mono blade on other Mustangs and their response set my mind at ease. I was told all that would initiially be required after base pull is for the TB signal to be adjusted in their tune then look for tweaks for drive ability and any potential for power. . Install is 2 days ...this Thursday.
Good luck!
I just ordered the frpp mono.... fingers crossed!
I just ordered the frpp mono.... fingers crossed!
I'm currently running a Lund email tune for my mono and it has stock like driveability. If the new shop can't get it right id be giving Lund a call
Good luck. Keep us posted. 
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Okay.....my SCJ mono blade experiment was not successful. First tuner in a highly reputable shop could not get the car to run. Period. After a full day I went back to the VMP Twin.
Weeks later I'm at my original tuner who got it running/ revving/idling within minutes after tweaking his custom tune .
Base pull was 680rwhp. Next SCJ pull 697rwhp with 3+ tq. Good - Nice !!
On the stab? It pulled straight as an arrow with no stumble, surge, waves in the power curve and even sounded different.
I loved it ! Except after hours of repeated drive simulation he was simply NOT able to get the " tip in" to work smooth enough for me to drive the car home without an occasional Fail Safe. Not Good. After another full day at a shop I drove back home on my VMP Twin and the brand new SCJ mono Blade back in bubble wrap in the box.
All I wanted was 1psi extra boost . Actually I got that and the rwhp numbers I hoped for. Sadly it seems the SCJ experiment for me in my area has reached it’s end. My new path for an extra 1-2psi boost will be a 10% ATI or IW crank pulley and if my 2.4 upper makes too much boost I’ll swap in a new 2.7 stock upper .
I ‘ve had the SCJ Mono Blade since middle of March so I doubt FRPP will allow me any refund .I felt it best to post these results here and on my own mono blade thread in the same format. I hope somebody who has a tuner in their area that can accomplish what we could not will view this as opportunity.
I will be posting “SCJ Mono Blade For Sale” on this forum and will simply ask for best offer.
PM's are welcome
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Weeks later I'm at my original tuner who got it running/ revving/idling within minutes after tweaking his custom tune .
Base pull was 680rwhp. Next SCJ pull 697rwhp with 3+ tq. Good - Nice !!
On the stab? It pulled straight as an arrow with no stumble, surge, waves in the power curve and even sounded different.
I loved it ! Except after hours of repeated drive simulation he was simply NOT able to get the " tip in" to work smooth enough for me to drive the car home without an occasional Fail Safe. Not Good. After another full day at a shop I drove back home on my VMP Twin and the brand new SCJ mono Blade back in bubble wrap in the box.
All I wanted was 1psi extra boost . Actually I got that and the rwhp numbers I hoped for. Sadly it seems the SCJ experiment for me in my area has reached it’s end. My new path for an extra 1-2psi boost will be a 10% ATI or IW crank pulley and if my 2.4 upper makes too much boost I’ll swap in a new 2.7 stock upper .
I ‘ve had the SCJ Mono Blade since middle of March so I doubt FRPP will allow me any refund .I felt it best to post these results here and on my own mono blade thread in the same format. I hope somebody who has a tuner in their area that can accomplish what we could not will view this as opportunity.
I will be posting “SCJ Mono Blade For Sale” on this forum and will simply ask for best offer.
PM's are welcome
->) !
I know it's a moot point now, but why didn't you actually drive it instead of trying to simulate drive cycles? The car is equipped with accelerometers and magnetometers. The computer knows if the car is moving or sitting stationary. My car has thrown a code a couple times and there was nothing the dealership (who has all the proper equipment) could do to get it to go away. The only thing that would clear it is actual around town drive cycles. Driving on the highway doesn't work.
Okay.....my SCJ mono blade experiment was not successful. First tuner in a highly reputable shop could not get the car to run. Period. After a full day I went back to the VMP Twin.
Weeks later I'm at my original tuner who got it running/ revving/idling within minutes after tweaking his custom tune .
Base pull was 680rwhp. Next SCJ pull 697rwhp with 3+ tq. Good - Nice !!
On the stab? It pulled straight as an arrow with no stumble, surge, waves in the power curve and even sounded different.
I loved it ! Except after hours of repeated drive simulation he was simply NOT able to get the " tip in" to work smooth enough for me to drive the car home without an occasional Fail Safe. Not Good. After another full day at a shop I drove back home on my VMP Twin and the brand new SCJ mono Blade back in bubble wrap in the box.
All I wanted was 1psi extra boost . Actually I got that and the rwhp numbers I hoped for. Sadly it seems the SCJ experiment for me in my area has reached it’s end. My new path for an extra 1-2psi boost will be a 10% ATI or IW crank pulley and if my 2.4 upper makes too much boost I’ll swap in a new 2.7 stock upper .
I ‘ve had the SCJ Mono Blade since middle of March so I doubt FRPP will allow me any refund .I felt it best to post these results here and on my own mono blade thread in the same format. I hope somebody who has a tuner in their area that can accomplish what we could not will view this as opportunity.
I will be posting “SCJ Mono Blade For Sale” on this forum and will simply ask for best offer.
PM's are welcome
Sorry the monoblade swap did not end well for you. FWIW I love my VMP 67mm Twinjet and my tuner was very impressed with it as well. Drives like stock but supports great power. Makes me wonder if the VMP 72mm Twinjet should be my next move for great drivability and additional flow/boost.
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Okay.....my SCJ mono blade experiment was not successful. First tuner in a highly reputable shop could not get the car to run. Period. After a full day I went back to the VMP Twin.
Weeks later I'm at my original tuner who got it running/ revving/idling within minutes after tweaking his custom tune .
Base pull was 680rwhp. Next SCJ pull 697rwhp with 3+ tq. Good - Nice !!
On the stab? It pulled straight as an arrow with no stumble, surge, waves in the power curve and even sounded different.
I loved it ! Except after hours of repeated drive simulation he was simply NOT able to get the " tip in" to work smooth enough for me to drive the car home without an occasional Fail Safe. Not Good. After another full day at a shop I drove back home on my VMP Twin and the brand new SCJ mono Blade back in bubble wrap in the box.
All I wanted was 1psi extra boost . Actually I got that and the rwhp numbers I hoped for. Sadly it seems the SCJ experiment for me in my area has reached it’s end. My new path for an extra 1-2psi boost will be a 10% ATI or IW crank pulley and if my 2.4 upper makes too much boost I’ll swap in a new 2.7 stock upper .
I ‘ve had the SCJ Mono Blade since middle of March so I doubt FRPP will allow me any refund .I felt it best to post these results here and on my own mono blade thread in the same format. I hope somebody who has a tuner in their area that can accomplish what we could not will view this as opportunity.
I will be posting “SCJ Mono Blade For Sale” on this forum and will simply ask for best offer.
PM's are welcome
Sorry to hear you didn't have success with the throttle body. You're not alone with having issues with the SCJ mono blade, but as you mentioned it's most likely all in the tune.
I didn't go back and read through your all of your posts, but one other option you may have is to do a remote Lund tune by using a local dyno shop. I know a few local guys who have done with method with Lund and have had good results with their mono blade on the 13-14 cars. If I end up modding the car I will most likely go this route, or JDM in Jersey for tuning.
GTPremi...the tuner did not want to release the car for me to drive an hour home as he could not get it to be consistent unless it was WOT. We didn't discuss a test drive as it was strapped down with cars waiting for service as soon as mine was out of the bay. His opinion was if it's coding for him it will code with me driving which having milli-amp issues years ago with my '08 with an L&M TB going Fail Safe ( later tweaked out) was a risk I wasn't real comfortable with either. After a long day I took the safe route. Thanks tho...
Paluka21 ...I gave Lund a call but requests for assistance were asked to be emailed. We actually discussed Lund but not sure if he'd write a TB fix or require a full tune which I'd hope would be emissions compliant. I will email.
Honestly....after today I will likely chalk this up to experience. If any of you fellas with the tuners who've resolved these issues have a buddy looking for a new mono at a great price please let me know. Perhaps next week I'll put it up on the forums and craigs list.
Paluka21 ...I gave Lund a call but requests for assistance were asked to be emailed. We actually discussed Lund but not sure if he'd write a TB fix or require a full tune which I'd hope would be emissions compliant. I will email.
Honestly....after today I will likely chalk this up to experience. If any of you fellas with the tuners who've resolved these issues have a buddy looking for a new mono at a great price please let me know. Perhaps next week I'll put it up on the forums and craigs list.
At least explore the other tuning options before you give up on it. AED, LUND.
Both have shown to be able to get the cars running nicely with the Mono.
My Mono delivers today so im hoping i have better luck.
Both have shown to be able to get the cars running nicely with the Mono.
My Mono delivers today so im hoping i have better luck.
Probably slightly biased but still informative
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Okay...curiosity got to me so once home I swapped the TB's and inserted the mono tune. The car started just fine. It definitely had a cold stumble and warming up did Fail Safe. But ignition on/off and the light was off. I drove around locally and definitely noticed a tip in surge that at 64 yrs old I'd find not to be something I'd want to live with in typical weekend driving. I avoided another Fail Safe with more aggressive pedal but that's not how I'd normally drive. Knowing it pulled clean on the dyno I stabbed the pedal in 3rd gear and it went straight to redline like an animal ! I don't track race this car. I never expected twin drive ability but do wish my tuner was able to streamline the pedal feed a lot more than I felt on the test drive. Had he been able to do that I also feel some tweaking may have picked up a few more HP as well. But I can see where this would not be the right choice for me . I am placing it up for sale and have chosen to swap my 2.4 with a 2.5" upper and ad 10% lower pulley to achieve my goals. Thanks Guys .
SCJ Mono Blade was sent to Accufab for repair.
I purchased a Lund Tune for the SCJ Mono blade. Off idle it went up to 2500-3000rpms and was very erratic...and dead pedal not driveable .
I learned how to data log and Lund tech reviewed/determined the TB was defective with sticking bore. ( 5/16 date on box) .
Accufab insisted if you can open/close with fingers it's not sticking. I disagreed as there's way more happening electronically in the motor than can mimic a stock bore. So...I would not accept that after 3 tuners and asked him " Please don't return this TB saying there was nothing wrong then I re-install and it runs great ?" . George from Accufab promised me he would call me ASAP after bench testing . He tried to talk around me for 20 minutes so I threw a bullet velocity question at him and he went silent. SEE? I said just because you know more about these TB's don't try to fake convince me I can't understand something. You are a specialist. You can't hunt with the wrong bullet or a gun that doesn't work. I have your TB and 3 tuners can't get it running + I could NEVER drag race this car with this TB. You can't drive or race a car with defective SCJ TB. Convo Over.
We talked about having a beer together ( jokingly NY to CA !) and I trust George will call me back and my SCJ Mono will be a better TB upon return.
I will repost boys.....If I bought another ? I'd ship it there first Ha-Ha !
I purchased a Lund Tune for the SCJ Mono blade. Off idle it went up to 2500-3000rpms and was very erratic...and dead pedal not driveable .
I learned how to data log and Lund tech reviewed/determined the TB was defective with sticking bore. ( 5/16 date on box) .
Accufab insisted if you can open/close with fingers it's not sticking. I disagreed as there's way more happening electronically in the motor than can mimic a stock bore. So...I would not accept that after 3 tuners and asked him " Please don't return this TB saying there was nothing wrong then I re-install and it runs great ?" . George from Accufab promised me he would call me ASAP after bench testing . He tried to talk around me for 20 minutes so I threw a bullet velocity question at him and he went silent. SEE? I said just because you know more about these TB's don't try to fake convince me I can't understand something. You are a specialist. You can't hunt with the wrong bullet or a gun that doesn't work. I have your TB and 3 tuners can't get it running + I could NEVER drag race this car with this TB. You can't drive or race a car with defective SCJ TB. Convo Over.
We talked about having a beer together ( jokingly NY to CA !) and I trust George will call me back and my SCJ Mono will be a better TB upon return.
I will repost boys.....If I bought another ? I'd ship it there first Ha-Ha !
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There is no way in hell all you've been through is worth it even if the monoblade finally works LOL. But I'm definitely rooting for you!
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