It's all personal, government shouldn't have to do anything. There is healthy foods out there.
being poor isn't an excuse not to have knowledge. and don't use the excuse that poor people don't have access to the internet. I see food stamp paying ebt card using mf'ers with iphones and what not. nothing is stopping them from learning how to eat healthy.
healthy foods are not more expensive than processed or fast food, just takes a bit more effort.
Healthy food is just as cheap as unhealthy food. Rice, pasta, frozen vegetables, white meats, roasts....all very inexpensive. I worked with the ADA a long time ago doing cost analysis for low income families. Cost is just an excuse for people that don't know how to shop and cook efficiently.at 3x the cost.
Cheap, Fast or Healthy. Pick two. Most americans barely have time for cheap and fast.
Its our society, IMO, and so many variables have attributed towards this trend over the years.
Healthy food is just as cheap as unhealthy food. Rice, pasta, frozen vegetables, white meats, roasts....all very inexpensive. I worked with the ADA a long time ago doing cost analysis for low income families. Cost is just an excuse for people that don't know how to shop and cook efficiently.
Healthy food is just as cheap as unhealthy food. Rice, pasta, frozen vegetables, white meats, roasts....all very inexpensive. I worked with the ADA a long time ago doing cost analysis for low income families. Cost is just an excuse for people that don't know how to shop and cook efficiently.
That depends on the type of rice and pasta and how it's fortified.A lot of rice and pastas have very little positive nutritional value.
People need to stop living to work & work to live.at 3x the cost.
Cheap, Fast or Healthy. Pick two. Most americans barely have time for cheap and fast.
Its our society, IMO, and so many variables have attributed towards this trend over the years.
See above. The amount of assistance the government gives our poor in terms of food is staggering. In my very brief tenure working for the state I noticed one trend...irresponsible people who were digging their own graves. That's something the bleeding hearts of the world fail to realize. You cannot truly be poor and be fat, period.You really need some context around this comment.
Other factors:
Food preservation - Every house has a fridge these days. Not once did I visit a house that didn't have one.
Transportation to store or stores - It's the same hurdle they need to cross to get unhealthy food
Appliances used to cook - not every house I visited had a working range and oven. They all had working TV's. Take of that what you will.
Spices and oils that can't be eaten by themselves - Spices and oils are the best bang for you buck cooking essentials. I'm not sure how this helps your argument.
Utilities available - Spoons, pans, pots, plates, silverware.....every house has them. If they don't you can walk out of Goodwill with everything you need for $15. Often times state programs will provide them.
Food storage - If there's a roof over your head there's a place for storage.
Food on the go for those with jobs - Eating out is the biggest financial drain one can possibly have. Sacking it to work saves thousands every year.
There are lots of factors why poor families have to make the choices they do. - all of which are avoidable by 99% of the poor population
^This. My office is now empty as everyone has left to go out for lunch. I'm the only one that cooked an inexpensive meal at home and brought it in using tupperware I've had since college and a fork from TWA when I was 5. Feeding yourself is basic and people make it way to damn complicated.I cook my own meals & eat healthy, for the most part. It's cheap & easy to bake, stir fry, steam, whatever some fresh, or even frozen, vegetables as a side dish. Chicken is not exactly expensive & can be cooked a million ways. Maybe I'm biased as cooking is also a hobby of mine that I enjoy.
People need to stop living to work & work to live.
Personal accountability.
You really need some context around this comment.
Other factors:
Food preservation
Transportation to store or stores
Appliances used to cook
Spices and oils that can't be eaten by themselves
Utilities available
Food storage
Food on the go for those with jobs
There are lots of factors why poor families have to make the choices they do.
Blown89, your views are diluted at best and it is clear that you don't understand the struggle of the poor.
A refrigerator is not the only source of food preservation and it is also a quite expensive appliance. Yes, many have a refrigerator, but food preservation is greater than the limited space of a refrigerator. Fresh fruit and vegetables do not stay fresh for long and require frequent trips to the grocery store. Other items are prime targets for bug infiltration which is quite common is crowded urban environments.
Transportation to and from the grocery store frequently is not the same as transportation to and from the grocery store once a month. Transportation also plays a role in food preservation.
I can go on and on, but I don't think you have a good understanding of what living poor is actually like. It can get quite complicated.
I cook my own meals & eat healthy, for the most part. It's cheap & easy to bake, stir fry, steam, whatever some fresh, or even frozen, vegetables as a side dish. Chicken is not exactly expensive & can be cooked a million ways. Maybe I'm biased as cooking is also a hobby of mine that I enjoy.
^This. My office is now empty as everyone has left to go out for lunch. I'm the only one that cooked an inexpensive meal at home and brought it in using tupperware I've had since college and a fork from TWA when I was 5. Feeding yourself is basic and people make it way to damn complicated.
If you are poor, and have a roof over your head, you are probably renting. Every apartment I have seen provides the 'fridge, stove, etc. All you have to do is pay the electricity/gas bill and you have a way to both cook and store your food. If it breaks the rental agency will have it repaired. Fresh fruit and vegetables usually last through a week just fine, so there really is no need to go to the grocery store more than on a weekly basis.
Blown89, your views are diluted at best and it is clear that you don't understand the struggle of the poor.
A refrigerator is not the only source of food preservation and it is also a quite expensive appliance. Yes, many have a refrigerator, but food preservation is greater than the limited space of a refrigerator. Fresh fruit and vegetables do not stay fresh for long and require frequent trips to the grocery store. Other items are prime targets for bug infiltration which is quite common is crowded urban environments.
Transportation to and from the grocery store frequently is not the same as transportation to and from the grocery store once a month. Transportation also plays a role in food preservation.
I can go on and on, but I don't think you have a good understanding of what living poor is actually like. It can get quite complicated.
I am not saying it can't be done, I am just saying that it is harder than you all are making it out to be. When you have disposable income it is easy to eat healthy.
Eating healthy costs more and takes more time when it is all said and done. Does it cost a lot more? No, but costing more is all relative to your income. To somebody that is poor and that has very little free time the decisions become more difficult.