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We've used them on Koni Challenge cars. They do work, I can't give you actual numbers but we have track tested them and every time the driver, "wants the damn wing back on"
Really. Anything more you could tell me. I always figured they were wide enough to catch some air off the side and the profile looked promising. Was it that noticeable a difference around a track, or was it just a stability thing?
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Ah, you have run with my group. right? :lol:
I use the racing term too. Most people dont understand HPDE or track days and, they dont need to know the difference. BUT,If you want to participate, it is important to understand.
No, the event does not time you. They will not stop you from setting up your own timing equipment from what I've seen though. Just because you are recording lap times does not mean you are racing. Racing means you are competing with others for the fastest lap time or you have open passing to determine who is first to finish. Neither of those things take place at a HPDE.
I'm not sure I will have to ask the drivers on the team. Or maybe I can get Bruce to do a little comparison sometime. Either way it does make a difference in lap times because with greater stability you are more confident in driving the car faster. So I'm not sure if the improved lap times were from driver confidence or an actual increase in grip.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've ran with your pack of clowns
I used to use the term racing until I got sick of my friends asking me how I finished. From then on I just told them I was going to test and tune, they understand that much better and I don't have to explain it to them further. My mother still tells people I go racing and I correct her everytime. I think she gets confused since I drive at HPDE and work at races though.:shrug:
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No, the event does not time you. They will not stop you from setting up your own timing equipment from what I've seen though. Just because you are recording lap times does not mean you are racing. Racing means you are competing with others for the fastest lap time or you have open passing to determine who is first to finish. Neither of those things take place at a HPDE.
I'm not sure I will have to ask the drivers on the team. Or maybe I can get Bruce to do a little comparison sometime. Either way it does make a difference in lap times because with greater stability you are more confident in driving the car faster. So I'm not sure if the improved lap times were from driver confidence or an actual increase in grip.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've ran with your pack of clowns
I used to use the term racing until I got sick of my friends asking me how I finished. From then on I just told them I was going to test and tune, they understand that much better and I don't have to explain it to them further. My mother still tells people I go racing and I correct her everytime. I think she gets confused since I drive at HPDE and work at races though.:shrug:
LOL, Yea, I get asked that too. I give up trying to explain anymore. You ever get all the gingerman grass from beneath the Bolt?
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LOL, Yea, I get asked that too. I give up trying to explain anymore. You ever get all the gingerman grass from beneath the Bolt?
I'm hoping the rest of it will come out when I wash the truck this week
If you want the rush of timed runs you need to look a the Time Attack events
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I believe we are going to have atleast one this year in my area orginized by SPDA. For now I run in the Solosprint Championship
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be safe
ps My Cobra R wing cost me roghly 10-15km/h on Mosport GP's back straight, but I can carry more speed through the rest of the track and the Cobra is more planted going into turn 8...
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I'm hoping the rest of it will come out when I wash the truck this week
:thumbsup: That works. We all got grass that weekend.
Stupercharged, you can purchase a timer and receiver
You will know
Think in this way... you know nothing, like a baby who can't walk and want to do track&field. Believe me, you don't have to go to the Olympics to actually measure your progress. You will know when you are taking care of your brakes, when you are taking the car to the limits, when you lose the car and can recover without sweating it, when you see a small squirrel at the side of the road while you are doing 140mph, when you can see a couple of drops of oil and you are turning as hard as you can, when you see an accident a couple hundred yards BEHIND you...
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You also know when you are improving because you will be giving less Miata's the point-by signal. Think I am joking? Those little cars will eat you up in the turns. And you should let them by at the next straight instead of drag racing them to the next turn. Learn from the lower hp cars. Understand why they are catching you in the corners.
Amen on those d**n Miatas
Having done both for years, it ain't racin. Fun? You betcha!
If you are going fast enough to be unstable, you need to figure out what you are doing wrong.
I have a buddy that took the wing off his car (MR2) and went faster at Road Atlanta.
Another thing, with no top, not sure how much it is going to help, anyway.
You need a flow of air over the car to get it to the wing. Air follows the shape until it can't hold any more and then goes to turbulence.
With only a windshield, you are breaking up the air and then it tumbles over the interior. It would have to be REALLY high to make much difference on a convertible with the top down, and with it up, well you can see how turbulent it gets with the flapping.
still wondering does any1 know how to figure out how much drag it takes to knock off 1mph top speed?
Not much. And it is more like mph's Figure a piece of tape over hood gaps is worth speed, then a flap in the air makes a big difference. Life's a compromise. Wing=Drag.
30 + years of racing, I've found speed off a corner is worth more top speed than anything.
Road Atlanta, end of the straight into turn 10 can vary 200-300 RPM depending on how much speed you can carry off of turn 7.
Having done both for years, it ain't racin. Fun? You betcha!
If you are going fast enough to be unstable, you need to figure out what you are doing wrong.
I have a buddy that took the wing off his car (MR2) and went faster at Road Atlanta.
Another thing, with no top, not sure how much it is going to help, anyway.
You need a flow of air over the car to get it to the wing. Air follows the shape until it can't hold any more and then goes to turbulence.
With only a windshield, you are breaking up the air and then it tumbles over the interior. It would have to be REALLY high to make much difference on a convertible with the top down, and with it up, well you can see how turbulent it gets with the flapping.
still wondering does any1 know how to figure out how much drag it takes to knock off 1mph top speed?
Not much. And it is more like mph's Figure a piece of tape over hood gaps is worth speed, then a flap in the air makes a big difference. Life's a compromise. Wing=Drag.
30 + years of racing, I've found speed off a corner is worth more top speed than anything.
Road Atlanta, end of the straight into turn 10 can vary 200-300 RPM depending on how much speed you can carry off of turn 7.
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You will know
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I saw a video of a s2000 with an active wing, that thing was hardly ever still.
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Um, who allows movable aerodynamic aids?
Um, who allows movable aerodynamic aids?
I think there's an unlimited class that allows it, but I'm not sure.
Almost every single Time Attack has an unlimited class and they allow anything!
I am not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if AIX or SU allows them.
I am not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if AIX or SU allows them.
Suprised to see them at a SCCA event.
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SCCA CAN-AM banned them back in the '60's, as does Formula-1.
Nothing beats this car though. It's the Brabham BT46. It used a fan attached to the engine crank to create a low pressure area under the car. It's pure genius.
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabham_BT46]Brabham BT46 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
And off-topic as well, but the ever awesome Tyrrell P34
LOL .. as soon as i was scrolling looking at the first car... the last one just came to mi mind!!.. oh the 60's....
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