Medical Testing on Prisoners

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Jesus Christ that is disturbing. Injecting mentally ill children with hepatitis?

Everyone thought the Nazis were monsters when they learned about the medical experimentation on humans but no one blinked an eye when the same thing was happening here in the US. Sickening.
 

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Disturbing but I'm not surprised. Note that the article said "much of this horrific history is 40 to 80 years old", and a lot of stuff was done way back then that was not known and went under the radar of public opinion. Times have changed and stuff like this would be exposed and publicized very easily and quickly. It was wrong then, and it would surely be even more wrong today.
 

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i think they should try to make a super viagra and inject it in the rather large inmate's and leave them in rooms with sick basterds like the sea world fool.
 

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Everyone thought the Nazis were monsters when they learned about the medical experimentation on humans but no one blinked an eye when the same thing was happening here in the US. Sickening.

The United States has done things it condemns others for doing. Whether it is injecting people with drugs or disease, it has been done. Being fair though, I believe the United States has a while to go before it comes close to the Nazi's.

PBS ran a 6 part series about Auschwitz and they went into extreme detail (both words and pics) about things the Nazi's did that most other documentaries wouldn't touch.
 

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PBS ran a 6 part series about Auschwitz and they went into extreme detail (both words and pics) about things the Nazi's did that most other documentaries wouldn't touch.

The Japanese did as bad or worse IMO.
I watched a doc. where they said the Japanese would infect multiple people with a certain germ/disease. Then on day one they'd dissect a person with no anesthesia and examine all the internals to see what damage had occurred.
Day 2, 3, 4 etc to see how the effects progressed.
 
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Things get so awful that it is hard to say who did worse. Nazi's would put the Jews into a building and toss in explosives and then view the results. Lets not even talk about what the "Angel of Death" did to twins, dwarfs or people with other oddities.
 

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"Prisoners of war were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia. Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Scientists performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results. The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.

Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and the fetus removed. Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss. Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body. Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines. Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.

Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions. Flame throwers were tested on humans. Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons, and explosive bombs.

Germ warfare attacksPrisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects. To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied. Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare[citation needed].

Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 400,000 Chinese civilians. Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians.

Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were involved in research, development, and experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics.

Other experimentsPrisoners were subjected to other torturous experiments such as being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death, having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism, and having horse urine injected into their kidneys.

Other incidents include being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death, being placed into high-pressure chambers until death, having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival, being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead, having animal blood injected and the effects studied, being exposed to lethal doses of x-rays, having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers, being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline and being buried alive."
 
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I took a CJ class in college where I found out things like how the US used to use mustard gas on US soldiers by tricking them into giving their consent. The soldiers signed forms saying that they were going to participate in some science experiments with NASA.
 

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Nazi Medicine/The Cross and the Star

What you have is a 2 part documentary about the hells people went through in the name of "medicine" as well as the blind eye certain groups of people turned in regards to the genocide taking place.
 
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Disturbing but I'm not surprised. Note that the article said "much of this horrific history is 40 to 80 years old", and a lot of stuff was done way back then that was not known and went under the radar of public opinion. Times have changed and stuff like this would be exposed and publicized very easily and quickly. It was wrong then, and it would surely be even more wrong today.

As Bob said, even though this stuff is 40 to 80 years old, it's still wrong to do it. I, however, am not surprised.
 

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"Prisoners of war were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia. Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Scientists performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results. The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.

Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and the fetus removed. Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss. Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body. Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines. Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.

Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions. Flame throwers were tested on humans. Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons, and explosive bombs.

Germ warfare attacksPrisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects. To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied. Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare[citation needed].

Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 400,000 Chinese civilians. Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians.

Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were involved in research, development, and experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics.

Other experimentsPrisoners were subjected to other torturous experiments such as being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death, having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism, and having horse urine injected into their kidneys.

Other incidents include being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death, being placed into high-pressure chambers until death, having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival, being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead, having animal blood injected and the effects studied, being exposed to lethal doses of x-rays, having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers, being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline and being buried alive."

Thanks for ruining my day.
 

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Much of that is just wrong however I think we should take a look back at doing such things to prisoners of violent crimes, with no doubt they committed it, and use them for the benefit of medicine/science (of course those given life/death sentences). Why should we waste money having them sit in jail or be put to death for nothing when they can benefit the rest of society and pay back some of our tax dollars in a way.
 

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This is pretty disturbing. Good thing times have changed and stuff like this comes out in the media now unlike the media 40-80 years ago. Surprising they'd do that considering it was wrong then and even more wrong today.
 

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