is a GT500 a Cobra?

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Im not going to lie, I know IRS when developed well is amazing. For what I love doing with my Shelby, a solid axle makes more sense. Drag racing primarily, but we only have to look at all the FR500s, Boss 302s, and Cobra Jets to see the solid 8.8 was a great axle when put under the S197.
 
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This is a crazy thread:

1996-2004 Mustang SVT Cobra
It is a Mustang.....check
It is an SVT vehicle.....check
It is a cobra designation....check

2007-2014 Mustang Shelby GT500
It is a Mustang....check
It is an SVT vehicle....check
It is a cobra designation...check
It is a GT 500 variant...check
It is Shelby influenced car and designation...check


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WVTrakPak said:
... I have never thought of my GT500 as a Cobra. I guess the final answer is on this forum....the GT500 is in the Cobra Forum section. How could it be in the Cobra Forum if it were not one?
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Because the person who created the sub-forum had the same mindset of "it has a Cobra badge, therefore it must be a Cobra." It's good that you've never referred to your GT500 as a Cobra because it's not a Cobra. It makes me cringe every time somebody says "nice Cobra" to me. Ugh!

Concerning the DEW-Lite IRS, everything I read indicated that the idea was scrapped for two reasons. 1. It was supposedly too complex and expensive to put on a Mustang (which doesn't make sense because the DEW and S197 chassis have matching hard points), and it would've driven the price of the Mustang up by a couple thousand dollars. 2. The first gen S197 GT500 was already porky at 3900+ lbs. The weight of the IRS would've pushed it well over 4000 lbs; think 5th gen ZL1. However, it also would've been a MUCH better balanced car performance-wise. I wonder if there's anybody out there who has slapped a Lincoln LS IRS on their GT500. If I'm not mistaken, it bolts right up.
 
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GT Premi said:
It's good that you've never referred to your GT500 as a Cobra because it's not a Cobra. It makes me cringe every time somebody says "nice Cobra" to me. Ugh!
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As I was going to work this am I walked past my car ans said "see ya later nice Cobra" in my best Sheriff Buford T Justice voice....can we still be friends?
 
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GT Premi said:
Because the person who created the sub-forum had the same mindset of "it has a Cobra badge, therefore it must be a Cobra." It's good that you've never referred to your GT500 as a Cobra because it's not a Cobra. It makes me cringe every time somebody says "nice Cobra" to me. Ugh!

Concerning the DEW-Lite IRS, everything I read indicated that the idea was scrapped for two reasons. 1. It was supposedly too complex and expensive to put on a Mustang (which doesn't make sense because the DEW and S197 chassis have matching hard points), and it would've driven the price of the Mustang up by a couple thousand dollars. 2. The first gen S197 GT500 was already porky at 3900+ lbs. The weight of the IRS would've pushed it well over 4000 lbs; think 5th gen ZL1. However, it also would've been a MUCH better balanced car performance-wise. I wonder if there's anybody out there who has slapped a Lincoln LS IRS on their GT500. If I'm not mistaken, it bolts right up.
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Also, the wheel hop was terrible under under hard acceleration. I had to put a brace on the pumpkin to keep it from rotating.


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GT Premi said:
You tried an IRS on your GT500? Other than wheel hop, how was it?
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No. I had a 1999 Cobra with IRS and had mixed feelings about it. The car handled great for it's time, but hard acceleration from a stop was less than desirable. It need a serious brace to reduce the wheel hop.


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nickf2005 said:
Let me throw some gasoline on this...

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/ford/cobra
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I would have to say the ad is not correct. All but but one car were actually AC Cobras with a Ford motor in them. The AC Cobras were not manufactured by Ford , but Shelby America.
The one car is a Ford Mustang SVT Cobra. I don't think Ford ever manufactured and built a Ford Cobra in the US as a separate and distinct model.


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