Im not using 127. 120/123 will be the best the GT350's can trap correct? Opinion of course. If so then you must compare that to the best a Z has trapped thus far. Thats 130mph by more than one car.
Gt350 vs c6z06 STOCK
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Im not using 127. 120/123 will be the best the GT350's can trap correct? Opinion of course. If so then you must compare that to the best a Z has trapped thus far. Thats 130mph by more than one car.
Why is everyone acting so surprised? It's not like that Z06 didn't start pulling away when it hooked up.
The same LS7 with a cold air intake puts down about the same rwhp as a 350 in the Z28. MT ran them at the aforementioned high temp conditions on crappy CA 91 fuel and pulled higher MPH in both 350 & 350R. Cool air and higher octane will provide an even higher benefit to a higher compression motor. What we're seeing is the difference in weight and aero.
The same LS7 with a cold air intake puts down about the same rwhp as a 350 in the Z28. MT ran them at the aforementioned high temp conditions on crappy CA 91 fuel and pulled higher MPH in both 350 & 350R. Cool air and higher octane will provide an even higher benefit to a higher compression motor. What we're seeing is the difference in weight and aero.
Corvette fans do. However, the average Z06 driver won't see that speed. The thing you have to remember is that it is widely heralded that it's nearly impossible for a Mustang to beat anything other than another Mustang on the streets.
On another note:
The GT350's aero is much, much better than previous Mustangs. The aero gap isn't as much as you guys think.
This thread makes me laugh, a 5-7 mph difference in the 1/4 is huge. It's common knowledge that the C6Z would lay the smack down on a lot of cars from a roll. I've owned 5 mustangs and I'm more of a ford guy than anything else but even I had to chime in here. Take my word for it, the C6Z is a total monster, you can't go by one video posted online.
Here's a video of my old C6Z trapping damn near 130mph with just a filter and tune. Yes, I was on drag radials (18") but that track was 3 hours away and I drove there so I was babying the car. The last thing I wanted to do was break anything so far away from home. The car would have run in the 10's with a more aggressive driving. The car was 3,050 lbs. w/o driver on the scale that day, no weight removed. BTW, check the date on the video..........
http://youtu.be/lMjp0Utn2Lo
Also check out the C6Z "fast list" over on CF. Keep in mind that not everyone goes online and submits their time slip.
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-z06-discussion/1794944-the-c6-z06-fast-list.html
Here's a video of my old C6Z trapping damn near 130mph with just a filter and tune. Yes, I was on drag radials (18") but that track was 3 hours away and I drove there so I was babying the car. The last thing I wanted to do was break anything so far away from home. The car would have run in the 10's with a more aggressive driving. The car was 3,050 lbs. w/o driver on the scale that day, no weight removed. BTW, check the date on the video..........
http://youtu.be/lMjp0Utn2Lo
Also check out the C6Z "fast list" over on CF. Keep in mind that not everyone goes online and submits their time slip.
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-z06-discussion/1794944-the-c6-z06-fast-list.html
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Who trapped 130 on stock tires?
The three best runs on the forum registry are 128.9, 127.2, 127.2 respectively.
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The stupidity in this thread is astounding....
Horse power to weight ratio goes to the vette...
Torque to weight ratio goes to the vette...
Aero advantage goes to the vette...
Traction advantage goes to the vette....
Gearing advantage goes to the vette....
One random video online shows a regular gt350 somewhat keeping up with a c6z on a roll....
Ford fan bois unite and take video as gospel.
Lmao... Priceless!
Horse power to weight ratio goes to the vette...
Torque to weight ratio goes to the vette...
Aero advantage goes to the vette...
Traction advantage goes to the vette....
Gearing advantage goes to the vette....
One random video online shows a regular gt350 somewhat keeping up with a c6z on a roll....
Ford fan bois unite and take video as gospel.
Lmao... Priceless!
We need more races
Just pouring gas on the fire. 
https://www.instagram.com/p/_sCZ7Lkqtd/
https://youtu.be/J-xJgSmu6J0
IMO, the CTSV doesn't sound stock, but I don't know how loud the blower is in stock form.
https://www.instagram.com/p/_sCZ7Lkqtd/
https://youtu.be/J-xJgSmu6J0
IMO, the CTSV doesn't sound stock, but I don't know how loud the blower is in stock form.
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He did not keep up. The z walked away. It be worse from a dig. Around a track you can out drive one though.
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BTW, I'm not advocating for the GT350, but I still haven't seen that stock 130MPH C6Z. Drag radials do not a stock car make. "GT350 versus whatever" nonsense aside, no bone stock Z is hitting 130 traps.
A C6Z will walk a GT350 given traction and equal drivers, I have no delusions of otherwise. My point is that there seem to be a few delusional Chevy boys in here too.
A C6Z will walk a GT350 given traction and equal drivers, I have no delusions of otherwise. My point is that there seem to be a few delusional Chevy boys in here too.
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I have to say that drag radials don't matter much from a roll on a stock car. The C6Z comes from the factory with garbage 19" runflat goodyears. Combine that with a 1st gear that runs up to 60 mph = lots of SPIN.
BTW, I think you guys are confused here, forget the R trap speed because the car in the video is not an R. The way I see it, it's GT350 116-117 vs C6Z 126-127, that's a big spread.
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I wasn't saying anything about the roll race though. I'm talking specifically about a bone stock car not being able to hit 130. A chosen few have hit 128, but that ain't 130.
There's a massive difference in the GT350 and the Z. I'm not arguing that.
You can't compare trap speeds on dr car compared to a stock car. It's a way to inflate the numbers. Just like you can't inflate the numbers in your case a properly driven z @ 127 to an everyday driven 117 for the 350.
The best drivers will be able/have gotten 120 out of the 350 just as the best drivers have hit 127 in the z. 7 mph is still a big win!
My car was "daily driven" too. If you check out the CF link I posted you can see quite a few at 126-127 bone stock on stock crap runflats. Again, keep in mind that not every C6 Z06 owner is on that particular forum or even chooses to post up their time slip so there may be others out there.
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Yes I have seen slower runs have a faster mph.
Are you saying there are other drivers who have run 11.2 at 129 or above on stock run flats?
What I have seen leads me to believe that great drivers can run 11.2@127 in most stock z's. Are you saying that this is not so? That's most stock z will go faster in cabable hands stock with stock tires.
Are you saying there are other drivers who have run 11.2 at 129 or above on stock run flats?
What I have seen leads me to believe that great drivers can run 11.2@127 in most stock z's. Are you saying that this is not so? That's most stock z will go faster in cabable hands stock with stock tires.
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a guy on drag radials has run 130 once in 10 years.
A handful have gone 128
About 10 have gone 127
About 30 have gone 126
About 1000's have gone 120-125.
Some dirp is adiment that motortrends 117/119mph results are the only valuable gt350 passes (100+ degree's with 91 octane)
Ok, here's a few motortrend results for c6z's. Enjoy, and see what the average is, compare that to the 5mph difference I claimed. The 2007 was a preproduction car and many speculate, a ringer for great numbers.
2006 z06 [email protected]
2011 z06 carbon [email protected]
2011 z06. [email protected]
2012 CE z06. [email protected]
Let's see, a pre production c6z did a 127.1 pass, and the rest are 122-123. I'd say that's 5mph more than the gt350 pass. Keep in mind the 350 was run on the wrong gas in 100* heat, which is easily worth 1mph. I'm not convinced the z06 traps 7-10mph faster than a gt350 same day/driver skill/venue etc.
And I've seen it to be that 5mph at 120 is about 1.5-2 car lengths, if that. That's not rape, ass kicking, or whatever, it's walking away.
Hop on the freeway. Pull along side any random car and match pace. Now get going 5mph faster. Wait and time how long it takes you to walk away from them. That's at 65-80mph. At 120, it's about 50% longer to do so. 5mph at 120 isn't much. 5mph is a good difference on cars trapping 90, maybe 110mph. Cars trapping 150, 5mph is nothing, 1/5th of a second tops. This is why some great driven catfish camaros where doing ok against 03 cobra's back in 2003. 107mph vs 112mph is a race your likely to lose, but it's not a plunder and pillage loss, it's just a good death.
That 1/2 second and 5mph is what people consider an ass kicking or rape? Shoot, I consider an rape fest when I run boost settings which run about 130mph against a stock 370z or bolt on Sti, like 10 cars on a 60-120 roll.
Right. So what's it called when my 160mph settings on my cobra roll races with a stock z06? Cause I've seen it to look like 5-8 cars from 70-150. And that's a 125 vs 160 car. I'd call that an ass kicking or rampage/rape whatever.
A handful have gone 128
About 10 have gone 127
About 30 have gone 126
About 1000's have gone 120-125.
Some dirp is adiment that motortrends 117/119mph results are the only valuable gt350 passes (100+ degree's with 91 octane)
Ok, here's a few motortrend results for c6z's. Enjoy, and see what the average is, compare that to the 5mph difference I claimed. The 2007 was a preproduction car and many speculate, a ringer for great numbers.
2006 z06 [email protected]
2011 z06 carbon [email protected]
2011 z06. [email protected]
2012 CE z06. [email protected]
Let's see, a pre production c6z did a 127.1 pass, and the rest are 122-123. I'd say that's 5mph more than the gt350 pass. Keep in mind the 350 was run on the wrong gas in 100* heat, which is easily worth 1mph. I'm not convinced the z06 traps 7-10mph faster than a gt350 same day/driver skill/venue etc.
And I've seen it to be that 5mph at 120 is about 1.5-2 car lengths, if that. That's not rape, ass kicking, or whatever, it's walking away.
Hop on the freeway. Pull along side any random car and match pace. Now get going 5mph faster. Wait and time how long it takes you to walk away from them. That's at 65-80mph. At 120, it's about 50% longer to do so. 5mph at 120 isn't much. 5mph is a good difference on cars trapping 90, maybe 110mph. Cars trapping 150, 5mph is nothing, 1/5th of a second tops. This is why some great driven catfish camaros where doing ok against 03 cobra's back in 2003. 107mph vs 112mph is a race your likely to lose, but it's not a plunder and pillage loss, it's just a good death.
That 1/2 second and 5mph is what people consider an ass kicking or rape? Shoot, I consider an rape fest when I run boost settings which run about 130mph against a stock 370z or bolt on Sti, like 10 cars on a 60-120 roll.
Right. So what's it called when my 160mph settings on my cobra roll races with a stock z06? Cause I've seen it to look like 5-8 cars from 70-150. And that's a 125 vs 160 car. I'd call that an ass kicking or rampage/rape whatever.
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The top 5 fastest (on that site) for bone stock on stock tires range from 10.9-11.3 but then again, a tire change to a non-runflat (non-dr) would help quite a bit to those running slower. I've never seen anything worse than those tires. All I'm saying is that the C6Z is an amazing machine if set up right. You have to give credit where it's due. I don't think the GT350 has what it takes to "hang with" one on the street. Too bad the LS7 has a tendency to blow up due to faulty valve guides. I wouldn't even consider buying another one unless the heads were gone through.
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Do you own GT350 stock or something? :-D I'm sure those motortrend Z06 runs were on 100 octane and in 50* weather, right? How about you hop into your GT350 and go out looking for a stock C6Z to run... let us know how it works out for you.
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Yours went 129 with tires and some other mods stock tune from what I see. Did yours or others(besides Jamie) go 129 factory stock?
I'm saying its a 127 car with a great driver and good air. But it seems like you're saying its faster and back it up with non stock times.
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