Gt350 vs c6z06 STOCK

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3 passes in 10 years. I'm saying these are hero runs. Anyone rational would as well.

Did I say a z06 can't trap over 125? No. I said the average driver won't.

Not 3 passes but 3 drivers who were cabable to take the car to that level. Because it was done multiple times with multiple drivers I am led to believe they could replicate 11.2/3 at 127 in the fall conditions(vht and -da).
 

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An ass raping in the 1/4, yes. The gearing is best suited for roll racing though. It traps that low because it's a hard car to launch as you've probably seen. It's a different animal when it doesn't have to launch.

4.10's in a 350r would make it a beast at the strip. The 3.73's stretch the mph in gear close to trinity gt500 ranges.

Gt500 60, 95, 135
Gt350 55, 85, 125

One has 662/630
One has 526/429.

A lot of people will be impressed by gt350's with gears and bolt ons.
 

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130? Show me 2, no honestly 1 c6z pass at 130. If it exists, you know damn well it's the hero run of all.

Ask and you shall receive.

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So much for such a stupid assertion eh?? And look. It took sooo many years to accomplish it. It ONLY took place 8 years ago.

Bottom line is show me one bone stock GT350 trapping 120. Much less 123. You cant. Im going off of RIGHT NOW. Not theories or predictions. You quote the GT350 at 120 but then proceed to quote a Z at 125 when 128, 129, and even 130 has been done for many YEARS now. You're trying so hard to make it seem like there's a 5mph difference between the cars. At this point. It's laughable.
 
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Have cookies. All the cookies. 3-4 passes at 128 don't make a majority. You are an idiot.
 
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So 2 people have alegedly gone 130 in stock c6z's in 10 years. That's some strong proof to bank on when you want to predict how a race will turn out. Would suck to constantly think it'll hang with 130mph cars and get its ass walked 997/1000 times.

Like I said, 03 Cobras have gone 114 and 116, so according to your logic that's the duplicable norm.

Nope, you are mistaken.
 
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Ask and you shall receive.

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So much for such a stupid assertion eh?? And look. It took sooo many years to accomplish it. It ONLY took place 8 years ago.

Bottom line is show me one bone stock GT350 trapping 120. Much less 123. You cant. Im going off of RIGHT NOW. Not theories or predictions. You quote the GT350 at 120 but then proceed to quote a Z at 125 when 128, 129, and even 130 has been done for many YEARS now. You're trying so hard to make it seem like there's a 5mph difference between the cars. At this point. It's laughable.

Huh, that video seems pretty indicative of one of our opinions.

Keep bench pressing that log bro, eventually everyone will be convinced every z06 runs 125-130.

Also, the 130 pass is clearly with drag radials. Throw some on a gt350r and even motortrend will run 120 in 100* heat with 91 octane.
 
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So 2 people have alegedly gone 130 in stock c6z's in 10 years. That's some strong proof to bank on.

Like I said, 03 Cobras have gone 114 and 116, so according to your logic that's the duplicable norm.

Nope, you are mistaken.

Wow. Look how your tone has changed. First it was "show me 2. Better yet show me 1". We all know what that implied. Now that ive showed you 1, and a second. Its no big deal. Let it go.

Never said it was the norm. Nope. Not once. What i did say is if you're going to quote the hero trap for a GT350 then do the same for the Z.

So. You quoted 120. Show me 2 cases of bone stock GT350's trapping 120. Ive already showed you two Z's that have trapped 130. And it didn't take anywhere near 6 years like you stated.

Any way you slice it the Z traps 7-10 mph more than a GT350.
 

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Wow. Look how your tone has changed. First it was "show me 2. Better yet show me 1". We all know what that implied. Now that ive showed you 1, and a second. Its no big deal. Let it go.

Never said it was the norm. Nope. Not once. What i did say is if you're going to quote the hero trap for a GT350 then do the same for the Z.

So. You quoted 120. Show me 2 cases of bone stock GT350's trapping 120. Ive already showed you two Z's that have trapped 130. And it didn't take anywhere near 6 years like you stated.

Any way you slice it the Z traps 7-10 mph more than a GT350.

I'm actually going to say have some cookies, enjoy your koolaid, and do you, but thanks for playing. You posted a time on drag radials, the 128 that I mentioned, and a 129 that I haven't even looked at yet because I don't care.

I don't need to show you 120's. You can believe motortrends 116 z28, 117 gt350, and 120 350r for as long as you'd like, cupcake.

The video does all the talking for my point.
 

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Huh, that video seems pretty indicative of one of our opinions.

Keep bench pressing that log bro, eventually everyone will be convinced every z06 runs 125-130.

Also, the 130 pass is clearly with drag radials. Throw some on a gt350r and even motortrend will run 120 in 100* heat with 91 octane.

I dont have to convince anyone. Everyone knows any competent driver can get a C6Z to trap 125+ in average weather. You must be living under a rock.
 

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Any way you slice it the Z traps 7-10 mph more than a GT350.

Id hope so given its 600lbs lighter. And every Z06 fanboi pulls out those hero runs on stock tires, the same guy also did 11s in his stock C5 Z06 right? Obviously a great driver and perhaps got lucky with some factory love. How many others have been able to replicate those times?
 

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Huh, that video seems pretty indicative of one of our opinions.

Keep bench pressing that log bro, eventually everyone will be convinced every z06 runs 125-130.

Also, the 130 pass is clearly with drag radials. Throw some on a gt350r and even motortrend will run 120 in 100* heat with 91 octane.

I have no doubt that a great z driver could pull a 127 out of most stock z with proper prep and good air. With the comments of multiple drivers hitting 123 with the R I'm very certain it could be done. However, how many great drivers with great prep drag their stock 350R?
 

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I have no doubt that a great z driver could pull a 127 out of most stock z with proper prep and good air. With the comments of multiple drivers hitting 123 with the R I'm very certain it could be done. However, how many great drivers with great prep drag their stock 350R?

Even at 123 in the best of conditions its still 7mph slower than the best of conditions Z's. They just dont get it. These cars are not in the same ballpark in terms of acceleration. They say the GT350 is geared great for roll races as if the Z hasnt been known for being a roll race monster for almost a decade. The GT350 has ZERO advantage from a roll. Power to weight or gearing or aero.
 

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Even at 123 in the best of conditions its still 7mph slower than the best of conditions Z's. They just dont get it. These cars are not in the same ballpark in terms of acceleration. They say the GT350 is geared great for roll races as if the Z hasnt been known for being a roll race monster for almost a decade. The GT350 has ZERO advantage from a roll. Power to weight or gearing or aero.

I say it's a 5mph difference, you said 10, now say 7. Say what you'd like. I've said my part.

From the get go I said the z isn't going to rape or dramatically outrun the gt350. The video shows that to be the case.

If you get a perfectly driven 350 and z to run bone stock, one is going to pull about 1-2 cars on the other from 40-130. That is not anything close to a rape, rally, ass kicking or what have you.

That's been my point from the beginning. I said a gt350 will destroy a hellcat around Laguna by 7 seconds or so.

There is nothing not to get. No one has said a gt350 is door to door with a z. I've said 5mph isn't a big difference in cars trapping 120-125. 7mph isn't either since your heart set the gap is 7mph.

My thoughts are the eventual hero runs for gt350r's will be about 11.50's@125, so no, I don't think 123's will be all too uncommon. I'd imagine at least 10-20 123 passes will happen, much like at least 50-100 z06's have gone 126-127.

Has said in the past that gt350r's were running strong mid summer during testing, and well into the 11's at 120+. That's enough for me to say I'll wait till spring and summer 2016 to see what the cars do in private hands.

Edit, can't find the lethal passes but I remember it going 116, 118, 119
 
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Even at 123 in the best of conditions its still 7mph slower than the best of conditions Z's. They just dont get it. These cars are not in the same ballpark in terms of acceleration. They say the GT350 is geared great for roll races as if the Z hasnt been known for being a roll race monster for almost a decade. The GT350 has ZERO advantage from a roll. Power to weight or gearing or aero.

7 at 123?

120 to 127 or 7mph 350 to c6z.
123 to 127 is 4 to 5mph R to c6z.

Yes no advantage. But one can still out drive them especially if the spin.
 

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I hope no one takes this race seriously. It looks like the vette was at half throttle and decided to shit on the 350 when it pleased. This isn't even a close representation of what a real race would look like.
 

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I hope no one takes this race seriously. It looks like the vette was at half throttle and decided to shit on the 350 when it pleased. This isn't even a close representation of what a real race would look like.

Sure didn't sound that way. Sounded to me like both cars were driven well enough.
 
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I meant that In a sarcastic sense but Apparently since the z spun...we see what happens once it gains traction. This argument going on is pointless. The 350 has nothing going for it vs the vette...power to weight-no, aero-no, torque-no, tire width-no. Seriously, i don't think this video is accuratly shows a true outcome between similar drivers. Just my opinion. Physics are physics and the 350 doesn't have one advantage.
 
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I was careful to not say "horsepower-no"....hence the power to weight ;-)
But technically I stand corrected....horsepower is "one advantage" the 350 has
 
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