At this point suicide is no longer illegal in any state.
Girl charged with manslaughter over firends suicide
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At this point suicide is no longer illegal in any state.
This thread is a good example of why that happens. People believe their non objective emotions somehow have legal significance and bearing. In this case I don't think they do. You are correct though, emotions do lead to laws sometimes.
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I totally understand the opinions going around in this thread. Some saying a text of any sort shouldnt be a crime (1st amendment, etc). But since cyber bullying is now a crime, is there a line not to cross? This is more than bullying. This is manipulation. There are clear moments in their dialogue where he wanted to talk about other things, and she brings up the suicide, making the conversation go in that direction. Crime or not, the question "Did her actions lead to his death?" is answered with a YES. And I can't understand how that SHOULDN'T be a crime, unless it had no intention (like the generic "go kill yourself" comments that are not to be taken literal). Either way, this is a good debate.
I don't thinnk she'll be convicted, but it was definitely wrong. She influenced a young man who had issues. She pressured him, worked on him, told him she loved him, all so that he'd take his life. That, my friends, is an evil person. I know she won't face a legal right to this wrong, but I hope her deeds are dealt with in other ways. Am I evil in wishing that? I don't know. It just seems so wrong.
The gay marriage ruling was another law reform. It wasn't dealing with guilt or innocence on an existing law. But we're getting way off base here.
Earlier in the thread I said it would be interesting to see the context of the fatal exchange. Context is everything. As psycho as her message is, I figured it would not have overt malice like her going on a profanity laced hate filled tantrum.
His LOL's and LMAO at his prospective demise seems like he put plenty of the "laughter in manslaughter". I'm not convinced she wasn't manipulated to a degree by his desire to die and eventually took on a STFU and get it over with attitude while they mutually exchanged twisted "I love you's".
I seriously think this will be dismissed and the initial DA pushed for prosecution because he knew the victim and his parents. Keep in mind she was 15 when they started dating and he was a fixer upper project from the start according to early reports.
His LOL's and LMAO at his prospective demise seems like he put plenty of the "laughter in manslaughter". I'm not convinced she wasn't manipulated to a degree by his desire to die and eventually took on a STFU and get it over with attitude while they mutually exchanged twisted "I love you's".
I seriously think this will be dismissed and the initial DA pushed for prosecution because he knew the victim and his parents. Keep in mind she was 15 when they started dating and he was a fixer upper project from the start according to early reports.
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damn. if I ever kill myself, a lot of people on this forum are going to prison for manslaughter. :lol:
My thought on it is if she was his partner she has a higher degree of influence on him than some random stranger telling you to kill yourself. He was depressed. He had tried before so she knew it was serious. She used her influence and he died when she could have used that influence and he would be alive right now. I think it could fly.
Reverse psychology?
The gay marriage ruling was law reform/upholding the law, but read the highlighted part. Even the Chief Justices say that the law is not always ruled by the law and emotion can and does become how the law is enforced. We are ALL human and we all have emotions. If an officer pulls you over for driving while suspended and has the option to tow you and take you into custody but does not use that option of the law because you are respectful and curtious. Now he pulls someone in the same situation and the person is mouthy and disrespectful, so he tows the car and takes the guy into custody? Why, the law is the same and says nothing about towing only mouthy peoples car. He did it because of how the person made him feel and he enforced the LAW that way. It happens every single day. The law is emotion based. I do not know how this case will go, but based on my life and seeing how emotion does play a part in our lives as human, it may not go so well for her. Or it just might.
So she was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter....
as she should have been.
Only in Massachusetts.
Both her and the guy who killed himself seemed like pretty screwed up, heavily medicated teenagers.
dunno man I think there are a number of states where she would have been convicted. it's actually a little surprising she got convicted in that liberal cesspool of the east.
No I mean Massachusetts has some real shit bums that inhabit the state.
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