First Look: Whipple 2.3L W140ax for the 2011 5.0L Mustang GT

[pho_phizzat]

wow i am excited about this.....

 

[KC/COBRA]

Any updates on the kit?

 

[dtheo]

i'd like to see a finished product on a car asap.

 

[black03]

It's almost here.. 2.3L and 2.9L Crusher

 

[csledd]

Looking good!!

 

[AmnDucky]

You are mostly correct. What kills rods is force, not necessarly horsepower. High power can damage rods, but overrevving an engine and (probably the biggest risk for the Coyote) preignition are much more common causes for overstressing a rod. If combustion takes place too soon before the piston reaches top dead center, then internal engine forces go ballistic. The car may make less POWER (because the flame front is trying to push the piston and crankshaft backwards), but internal forces on the rod become overwhelming.

So rods and compression aren't related, but they are each a link in the failure chain. Avoiding detonation is difficult with high compression... and when detonation occurs, the rods may be the first things to go.

The Coyote does have some interesting advantages that may help tuners avoid detonation, such as the variable cam timing and oil squirters already meantioned in a previous post. Everyone should just be aware that using the ti-VCT to reduce "dynamic compression" is another way to say "reducing the amount of air in the cylinder. This decreases the risk of detonation for sure, but also reduces power significantly when this feature is used.

Dont forget knock sensors.

 

[69gt4speed]

I think the ford engineers underestimated the rods... Look here they look a lot better than a 3v. Def not 03 quality though. More like gt 500 type.

 

[SID297]

The GT500 connecting rods are powdered metal.

The 11:1 compression could be a concern, but dynamic compression is more important than static and with independently variable cam timing you can adjust that. Also, the oil squirters will help keep the pistons cooler, reducing the potential for detonation.

Just wait to see what the tuners will do, I bet we see 600 rwhp reliably, maybe more.

I assure you the GT500 rods are forged. They may not be the best forged rods ever made, but they are forged none the less.

I think the ford engineers underestimated the rods... Look here they look a lot better than a 3v. Def not 03 quality though. More like gt 500 type.

This is very true. The 5.0 rod has a lot more material in the key areas that were lacking on the other modular rods. Just because a rod is powdered metal does not mean it's weak. The diesels in all the big three heavy duty trucks all have pm rods and they are all capable of big power. (The new 6.7 Powerstroke may be an exception as it appears to have a forged rods.) The EcoBoost engines also have pm rods that are very well designed.

 

[redsap05]

Looking great, nice to see how much thought is put inot this. Hopefully will come out faster than their 2010 camaro kit though.

 

[black03]

We're getting real close to having the new Whipple kits for the 2011 5.0L Mustang GT start shipping. I'm being told it can be as early as next week. We've already listed both the complete and tuner kits on our site. More options, info as well as pricing will be released shortly.

In addition to that we've learned that the Whipple kit for the 2011 GT will use the stock 07-11 GT500 throttle body. That's good news as the stock single blade throttle body on the 2011 GT would definitely appear to be a restriction on boosted applications that love to flow lots of air. What this also means is that you'll be able to upgrade to even larger throttle bodies such as the Whipple monoblade and Super monoblade throttle bodies as well as L&M 66/72mm ones and the VMP 67/72mm ones. Without a doubt we know how much of an improvement those throttle bodies have done in the GT500 community and we feel very comfortable saying that they'll do the same for the 2011 5.0L GT community.

For now stay tuned as we'll be releasing more exclusive content as it comes in.

 

[AmnDucky]

We're getting real close to having the new Whipple kits for the 2011 5.0L Mustang GT start shipping. I'm being told it can be as early as next week. We've already listed both the complete and tuner kits on our site. More options, info as well as pricing will be released shortly.

In addition to that we've learned that the Whipple kit for the 2011 GT will use the stock 07-11 GT500 throttle body. That's good news as the stock single blade throttle body on the 2011 GT would definitely appear to be a restriction on boosted applications that love to flow lots of air. What this also means is that you'll be able to upgrade to even larger throttle bodies such as the Whipple monoblade and Super monoblade throttle bodies as well as L&M 66/72mm ones and the VMP 67/72mm ones. Without a doubt we know how much of an improvement those throttle bodies have done in the GT500 community and we feel very comfortable saying that they'll do the same for the 2011 5.0L GT community.

For now stay tuned as we'll be releasing more exclusive content as it comes in.

I need to win the lotto

 

[black03]

Steve Turner from 5.0 Mustang Magazine was in the house today as we installed the FRPP/Whipple 624hp kit on the Lethal Performance 2011 5.0L Mustang GT. It's all up and running and will be at the dyno tomorrow. Then it's off to the track on Friday. You'll be able to read all about it in an upcoming issue of 5.0 Mustang Magazine. We'll have video footage available shortly as well.