First Look: Whipple 2.3L W140ax for the 2011 5.0L Mustang GT

[black03]

We've got some exclusive info about the all new Whipple Supercharger kits for the 2011 5.0L Mustang GT. How about 600hp? That's right. The new 5.0L 4V motor for the 2011 GT rated at 412hp will soon have the ability to make 600hp. Thanks to our good friends at Whipple for making this possible with their W140ax 2.3L supercharger kit. The kit for the 2011 GT will be offered with a 5" air-to-water intercooler and massive "Crusher" style inlet system which was designed to minimize restriction and maximize airflow. The Crusher inlet for the 5.0L is almost identical in size to what Whipple currently offers for their 2.9L GT500 kit. The 5.0L should make around 600hp @ 7psi which is the maximum boost level recommended for pump gas applications. Kits will be available in black or polished as well as complete kits with fuel system and tuning or tuner kits without fuel system and tuning. Be sure to stay posted as Lethal Performance will indeed be getting one of the first kits made to sport on our soon to be built Grabber Blue 2011 GT.

Here's a few spy pics never seen before of the 2011 5.0L Mustang Whipple 2.3L supercharger.

 

[boduke0220]

Wow thats good, 600hp at 7psi? thats insane. maxed out my ass lol

 

[nocobrafornow]

do you have a ball park price on tuner vs. comlete kits. thanks

 

[kingnut]

7 psi to get 600 whp? if so DAYUMMM

 

[xenodragon]

I am guessing you cant go much above that psi because of the compression?

 

[Todd03Blown]

I am pretty sure it is 600 crank HP..so figure a little over 500RWHP. This would be very nice with this car!!

 

[99BOSS]

Powdered metal rods people. In the recent 5.0 and Super Fords mag it mentioned that they wont last under boost. It was a huge engineering article on the development of that engine. I know people will want to boost it and yeah it'll make great power but for how long? That and everyone knows, if 7psi is good, lets try 10. Not a recipe for longevity.

 

[Ry_Trapp0]

Powdered metal rods people. In the recent 5.0 and Super Fords mag it mentioned that they wont last under boost. It was a huge engineering article on the development of that engine. I know people will want to boost it and yeah it'll make great power but for how long? That and everyone knows, if 7psi is good, lets try 10. Not a recipe for longevity.

well you better get ahold of carroll shelby, because he's already slapping a blower on it with a warranty.


c'mon dude, these people OBVIOUSLY know a little more about this than us. how about we just stand back and watch them work.
BTW, the GT500 has powdered metal rods...

 

[Silver03Termi]

well you better get ahold of carroll shelby, because he's already slapping a blower on it with a warranty.


c'mon dude, these people OBVIOUSLY know a little more about this than us. how about we just stand back and watch them work.
BTW, the GT500 has powdered metal rods...

it doesnt have 11:1 compression tho.

 

[Ry_Trapp0]

it doesnt have 11:1 compression tho.

the GT350 does, the 5.0l is 100% stock with a blower bolted on top.

 

[dtheo]

I am guessing you cant go much above that psi because of the compression?

I would assume

 

[swoosh_stang]

Powdered metal rods people. In the recent 5.0 and Super Fords mag it mentioned that they wont last under boost. It was a huge engineering article on the development of that engine. I know people will want to boost it and yeah it'll make great power but for how long? That and everyone knows, if 7psi is good, lets try 10. Not a recipe for longevity.

The GT500 connecting rods are powdered metal.

The 11:1 compression could be a concern, but dynamic compression is more important than static and with independently variable cam timing you can adjust that. Also, the oil squirters will help keep the pistons cooler, reducing the potential for detonation.

Just wait to see what the tuners will do, I bet we see 600 rwhp reliably, maybe more.

 

[redsap05]

What about for those of us willing to have to motor's built. Will there be a 2.9 or 3.4 for this car?

 

[GTSpartan]

If the current GT 4.6 can hold 450whp, there is no reason not to think the much internally improved 5.0 won't hold ~500whp. Now, you probably won't see 20 psi out of a stock motor, but this is still impressive.

GM's high comp engines seem to be doing fine under modest boost applications, so why not the 5.0?

 

[shadowstang03gt]

nice

 

[65fastback2+2]

what does the compression have to do with the rods anyhow?

the rods only have problems under load depending on POWER. it could be 20:1 compression and 4 psi or 10:1 and 20psi, and the rods will still give up under the same amount of hp

 

[Falc'man]

What about for those of us willing to have to motor's built. Will there be a 2.9 or 3.4 for this car?

Soon.

 

[CAPTAIN JACK]

Roush is working on a charger application, my guess is complete new internals, then
boost her up....over 600 is very possible

 

[mustangc]

what does the compression have to do with the rods anyhow?

the rods only have problems under load depending on POWER. it could be 20:1 compression and 4 psi or 10:1 and 20psi, and the rods will still give up under the same amount of hp

You are mostly correct. What kills rods is force, not necessarly horsepower. High power can damage rods, but overrevving an engine and (probably the biggest risk for the Coyote) preignition are much more common causes for overstressing a rod. If combustion takes place too soon before the piston reaches top dead center, then internal engine forces go ballistic. The car may make less POWER (because the flame front is trying to push the piston and crankshaft backwards), but internal forces on the rod become overwhelming.

So rods and compression aren't related, but they are each a link in the failure chain. Avoiding detonation is difficult with high compression... and when detonation occurs, the rods may be the first things to go.

The Coyote does have some interesting advantages that may help tuners avoid detonation, such as the variable cam timing and oil squirters already meantioned in a previous post. Everyone should just be aware that using the ti-VCT to reduce "dynamic compression" is another way to say "reducing the amount of air in the cylinder. This decreases the risk of detonation for sure, but also reduces power significantly when this feature is used.

 

[RoadZOmbie]

Man alot if good info in here! Good stuff!!!