all camo'd up, but looks like a portly ass pig IMO. might be heavier than a Hellcat. lol
That's a lot to ask brother lol.
My wish list:
750 hp minimum,
Under 4000 lbs, preferebly under 3900
Non remote shifter manual transmission
Real clutch with no clutch protection
Under 75K msrp
Make as many as people want
No production limiting features, even if they would be cool (CF wheels, etc)
Carbon ceramic brakes are also available on the aftermarket. The cost isn't much different than getting them as an OEM part. It's MUCH cheaper to get carbon fiber wheels from OEM. The cost of the R package is so good compared to what you'd pay aftermarket for the wheels alone, much less the rear wing, that it should be considered grand theft.
Nothing in particular other than the non limitation of options, I guess I've learned to tame my expectations in lieu of constant disappointment. Didn't mean to piss in your cheerios, sorryWhich part do you think is unreasonable? I haven't spent much time outside the "Cobra" forums, so I'm not up to speed with what a twin turbo coyote puts down at 14 psi boost. My rational, if a trinity could pass Ford's durability testing at 14 psi, a coyote can, and with the lower parasitic loss of the turbo vs the PD blower, and better flowing heads and other coyote advantages, 750 seems reasonable.
I'm allowing 200 lbs for the turbos and coolers and heavier transmission and 1/2 shafts (granted 100 extra is probably not enough.)
They really need to figure out the clutch and shifter for all these cars...
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I'd also rather have CCM brakes than CF wheels as non CCM rotors and pads are toast after one OT event.
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Nothing in particular other than the non limitation of options, I guess I've learned to tame my expectations in lieu of constant disappointment. Didn't mean to piss in your cheerios, sorry
Coyote heads are no contest to any previous design, but head flow/velocity is much less of an issue with FI. NA heads dictate how much HP can be made, FI it's the size of the blower, turbo or turbos.
Some two-piece rotors with aluminum hubs [and proper pads] can remedy that for a whole lot cheaper. Carbon fiber wheels make a much bigger overall performance difference than carbon ceramic rotors. I'm speaking from some experience. I swapped out the heavy stock rotors on my GT500 for some lightweight "race" rotors. Aside from the weight savings, the overall performance increase was negligible. It stops a little better, but I think that has more to do with the SS braided brake lines than the rotors themselves. Their main function is to dissipate heat faster, which preserves the rotors and pads. When I put some lightweight wheels on it, that made a huge difference.
They aren't carbon ceramic are they? Plus I don't believe they have the cool separate hat and rotor by pin design either?
Some two-piece rotors with aluminum hubs [and proper pads] can remedy that for a whole lot cheaper. Carbon fiber wheels make a much bigger overall performance difference than carbon ceramic rotors. I'm speaking from some experience. I swapped out the heavy stock rotors on my GT500 for some lightweight "race" rotors. Aside from the weight savings, the overall performance increase was negligible. It stops a little better, but I think that has more to do with the SS braided brake lines than the rotors themselves. Their main function is to dissipate heat faster, which preserves the rotors and pads. When I put some lightweight wheels on it, that made a huge difference.
Has anyone dug into why the ZL1 1LE has such low stopping distances? They aren't carbon ceramic are they? Plus I don't believe they have the cool separate hat and rotor by pin design either?
I'm not upset at your post, just curious.
I somewhat agree about head flow, but the lower the pressure drop on the downstream side, the less pressure for a given flow, less heat and lower chance of detonation. In other words, 14 psi would be more flow on a coyote vs the old school modular (ignoring displacement differences for a moment).
Alot of people who track swap out the CCM for steelies since the advantage of them don't align to the cost. Remember CCM only deal with heat better and not so much with stopping(yes I know less heat less fade). They don't belong on a street/track car. People that want them and brag about them should be buying a Ferrari, since you belong in that crowd.
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Again I like that I don't need to change my brakes every weekend. I don't notice much if any difference in stopping distances. That's about tires more than anything.
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I'd also rather have CCM brakes than CF wheels as non CCM rotors and pads are toast after one OT event.
Alot of people who track swap out the CCM for steelies since the advantage of them don't align to the cost. Remember CCM only deal with heat better and not so much with stopping(yes I know less heat less fade). They don't belong on a street/track car. People that want them and brag about them should be buying a Ferrari, since you belong in that crowd.
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I guess that's why Camaros and vettes run them.
Again I like that I don't need to change my brakes every weekend. I don't notice much if any difference in stopping distances. That's about tires more than anything.
Yep, everyone should just run heavy ass steel brakes.