Egr monitor won’t run for state test?!?!? Photos included

[kreymis]

So I’ve been having this ongoing problem with getting my car to pass New York State inspection. My egr monitor won’t run and without that monitor set I can’t get the cat monitor to run. Car has a kenne bell 2.6 full emissions devices. Runs great and no codes in Ecu. I am posting a few pics of the vacuum setup and that’s where I believe the problem is. Car has brand new egr valve, motorcraft dpfe, egr solenoid. One thing I noticed was that some lines are blocked off and one is even pinched with a wire wrap. I am not sure if this was done for a reason by the tuner but the car runs flawless and has excellent power. Both lines off the boost dump solenoid are obstructed as you can see in photos. Not sure if that had anything to do with egr but if anyone has any input I’d really appreciate it

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[DSG2003Mach1]

Have you had the tuner look at that tune and verify that none of that was turned off?

There was a point in time some guys would turn off the egr and rear cars by default so they wouldn’t have to deal with those particular tune updates

 

[kreymis]

Yes, he said he didn’t touch that side of the tune. Something tells me there’s a vacuum line improperly routed or something like that. Hopefully the photos show it and I can correct it.


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[03' White Snake]

Pull up the install directions. KB clearly defines which tubes to run where and which to block off.

 

[kreymis]

Are the instructions still available? I bought the blower second hand so I don’t have them.


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[03 DSG Snake]

What's your MAF setup?

I had the exact same issue running an aftermarket MAF. Only the stocker would conplete the EGR test no matter the tuner settings.

 

[kreymis]

Sct 2600.
If I were to plug in the stocker would I be able to drive the car (assuming stay out of boost) or would it not even stay running?


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[Blkkbgt]

Are the instructions still available? I bought the blower second hand so I don’t have them.


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Contact KB, they should at a minimum be able to provide info on your vacuum line routing.

To me it looks like someone disabled your boost dump solenoid but that shouldn't effect your EGR system.

When the state plugs into your car how does the EGR show up?

Does it show up not ready or unsupported?

Also are your rear 02s turned off?

 

[03' White Snake]

If KB can’t help, I can dig out my 2.8H instructions. Should be the same.

 

[kreymis]

Shows up “not ready”
I don’t believe the rear o2’s are turned off. The o2 monitor has run and is completed.

Any help is appreciated. Inspection is overdue since last fall so I’m driving around under the radar…sort of


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[Vinnie_B]

Typical Ford Mustang Cobra DPFE EGR System​

 

[03 DSG Snake]

Shows up “not ready”
I don’t believe the rear o2’s are turned off. The o2 monitor has run and is completed.

Any help is appreciated. Inspection is overdue since last fall so I’m driving around under the radar…sort of


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See if your tuner can tweak your tune as is but for a stock MAF and don't boost it.

The MAF is throwing one of the monitor parameters out of whack, so it doesn't Pass or Fail it just never completes.

 

[Vinnie_B]

If you can get a scan tool and software like Forscan or Ford IDS, perform this Drivecycle test. If it doesnt work, I have other tools at my disposal.


Description of OBD II Drive Cycle

The following procedure is designed to execute and complete the OBDII monitors and to clear the Ford P1000, I/M readiness code. To complete a specific monitor for repair verification, follow steps 1 through 4, then continue with the step described by the appropriate monitor found under the "OBDII Monitor Exercised" column. When the ambient air temperature is outside 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100 °F), or the altitude is above 2438 meters (8000 feet), the EVAP monitor will not run. If the P1000 code must be cleared in these conditions, the PCM must detect them once (twice on some applications) before the EVAP monitor can be "bypassed" and the P1000 cleared. The EVAP "bypassing" procedure is described in the following drive cycle.

The OBDII Drive Cycle will be performed using a scan tool. Consult the instruction manual for each described function.


Drive Cycle Recommendations

1. Most OBDII monitors will complete more readily using a "steady foot" driving style during cruise or acceleration modes. Operating the throttle in a "smooth" fashion will minimize the time required for monitor completion.

1. Fuel tank level should be between 1/2 and 3/4 fill with 3/4 fill being the most desirable.

1. The Evaporative Monitor can only operate during the first 30 minutes of engine operation. When executing the procedure for this monitor, stay in part throttle mode and drive in a smooth fashion to minimize "fuel slosh".

OBDII Monitor Exercised​	Drive Cycle Procedure​	Purpose of Drive Cycle Procedure​
Drive Cycle Preparation	1. Install scan tool. Turn key on with the engine off. Cycle key off, then on. Select appropriate Vehicle & Engine qualifier. Clear the continuous diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) and reset the emission monitors information in the powertrain control module (PCM).	Bypass engine soak timer. Resets OBDII Monitor status.
	2. Begin to monitor the following PIDs: ECT, EVAPDC, FLI (if available) and TP MODE. Start vehicle WITHOUT returning to Key Off.
	3. Idle vehicle for 15 seconds. Drive at 64 Km/h (40 MPH) until ECT is at least 76.7°C (170°F).
Prep for Monitor Entry	4. Is IAT within 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100°F)? If not, complete the following steps, but note that step 14 will be required to "bypass" the EVAP monitor and clear the P1000.	Engine warm-up and provide IAT input to the PCM.
HEGO	5. Cruise at 64 Km/h (40 MPH) for at least 5 minutes.	Executes the HEGO monitor.
EVAP	6. Cruise at 64 to 128 Km/h (45 to 65 MPH) for 10 minutes (avoid sharp turns and hills). NOTE: To initiate the monitor TP MODE should = PT, EVAPDC must be > 75%, and FLI must be between 15 and 85%.	Executes the EVAP monitor (If IAT is within 4.4 to 40°C (40 to 120°F).
Catalyst	7. Drive in stop-and-go traffic conditions. Include five different constant cruise speeds, ranging from 32 to 112 Km/h (20 to 70 MPH) over a 10 minute period.	Executes the Catalyst Monitor.
EGR	8. From a stop, accelerate to 72 Km/h (45 MPH) at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. Repeat 3 times.	Executes the EGR Monitor.
SEC AIR/CCM (Engine)	9. Bring the vehicle to a stop. Idle with transmission in drive (neutral for M/T) for 2 minutes.	Executes the ISC portion of the CCM.
CCM (Trans)	10. For M/T, accelerate from 0 to 80 Km/h (0 to 50 MPH), continue to step 11. For A/T, from a stop and in overdrive, moderately accelerate to 80 Km/h (50 MPH) and cruise for at least 15 seconds. Stop vehicle and repeat without overdrive to 64 Km/h (40 MPH) cruising for at least 30 seconds. While at 64 Km/h (40 MPH), activate overdrive and accelerate to 80 Km/h (50 MPH) and cruise for at least 15 seconds. Stop for at least 20 seconds and repeat step 10 five times.	Executes the transmission portion of the CCM.
Misfire & Fuel Monitors	11. From a stop, accelerate to 104 Km/h (65 MPH). Decelerate at closed throttle until 64 Km/h (40 MPH) (no brakes). Repeat this 3 times.	Allows learning for the misfire monitor.
Readiness Check	12. Access the On-Board System Readiness (OBDII monitor status) function on the scan tool. Determine whether all non-continuous monitors have completed. If not, go to step 13.	Determines if any monitor has not completed.
Pending Code Check and EVAP Monitor "Bypass" Check	13. With the scan tool, check for pending codes. Conduct normal repair procedures for any pending code concern. Otherwise, rerun any incomplete monitor. If the EVAP monitor is not complete AND IAT was out of the 4.4 to 37.8 °C (40 to 100 °F) temperature range in step #4, or the altitude is over 2438 m. (8000 ft.), the EVAP "bypass" procedure must be followed. Proceed to Step 14.	Determines if a pending code is preventing the clearing of P1000.
EVAP Monitor "Bypass"	14. Park vehicle for a minimum of 8 hours. Repeat steps 2 through 12. DO NOT REPEAT STEP 1.	Allow the "bypass" counter to increment to two.

 

[dan1982]

You said u bought the blower second hand. And its strange youre posting this online before u get ahold of your tuner. At least give the tuner the chance to rectify this....... see what he has to say and then report back. HE IS the guy that tuned it.... and u say it runs well.

 

[kreymis]

The weird thing is that it passed emissions after the tune and KB install. Then last fall when the inspection was due again it won’t pass due to egr and cat monitors not readying up


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[Blkkbgt]

Have you had the tuner look at that tune and verify that none of that was turned off?

There was a point in time some guys would turn off the egr and rear cars by default so they wouldn’t have to deal with those particular tune updates

Yes, he said he didn’t touch that side of the tune. Something tells me there’s a vacuum line improperly routed or something like that. Hopefully the photos show it and I can correct it.


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You said u bought the blower second hand. And its strange youre posting this online before u get ahold of your tuner. At least give the tuner the chance to rectify this....... see what he has to say and then report back. HE IS the guy that tuned it.... and u say it runs well.

He did contact his tuner. How about you read everything before responding especially since you have zero technical advice to give.

 

[98 svt]

Is that a stick someone used to plug up a vacuum line?

 

[hotcobra03]

03/04 Cobra Vacuum Lines Documented

I have been apalled by the lack of documentation regarding the vacuum and boost lines for the 03/04 Cobra. I am collecting parts for a Teksid Terminator motor I am slowly building for my 96 Cobra, so I have most of the lines and parts in my collection. A friend asked me to help with getting his...

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This has some information on hoses .

Has full oem vacuum harness .

Scroll.thru I seen some others like boost bypass which I think you have plugged ..

May be some links to Whipple hose setup

 

[Blkkbgt]

The weird thing is that it passed emissions after the tune and KB install. Then last fall when the inspection was due again it won’t pass due to egr and cat monitors not readying up


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Let's back up.

In post #10 you stated you believe the rear 02s were on. That's your cat monitoring.

Now you're saying the cat monitor won't show ready.

That tells me your rear 02s are off. Your cat monitor will never set with them on.

Are you running an off road H or X pipe by chance?

If you are then the tuner most likely turned the rear 02s off.

I have been told by SCT this can also effect the EGR monitor as well. From what I remember they said the cat monitor must set before the EGR will be tested.

That could be wrong but that's what I remember from dealing with my issue ages ago.

Also please use the quote button in the bottom right of each post so we know who you're talking/responding to. It makes it easier for us to help you.

 

[BlckBox04]

I'm also thinking it's something to do with your o2's