Current New Vehicle Market

[GTSpartan]

This is a single data point. You need additional sources to get a more comprehensive picture. Since this is a Ford centered site, just look at warranty and recall costs that Ford has reported over the past several years. They lead the pack (which is a bad thing) and spend billions more than their peers. Combine these all together and you get a clearer picture that there are some concerning things happening at the blue over.

p.s. Be careful of Youtube and other social media platform for sources of data, as they are HIGHLY unreliable.

 

[13COBRA]

Ford keeps winning the recall war. It's incredible.

 

[72MachOne99GT]

Ford keeps winning the recall war. It's incredible.

I like to think of it as getting new parts after purchase. Like a free warranty!

 

[Weather Man]

I like to think of it as getting new parts after purchase. Like a free warranty!

My brothers-in-law's Explorer has been stuck in transmission purgatory for going on 2 months at the dealer waiting for parts. They tell him he has a lot of company.

 

[BlueSnake01]

My brothers-in-law's Explorer has been stuck in transmission purgatory for going on 2 months at the dealer waiting for parts. They tell him he has a lot of company.

Its funny how that is a big hit or miss. I have had zero drivetrain issues with mine and ton of other ST/Platinum owners havent either. Mine has almost 40k

But there are also those who have had non stop issues with the transmission or engine (bad cam phasers), some months after purchasing it. Early Explorers got the worst with the electronic gremlins.

 

[SID297]

My brothers-in-law's Explorer has been stuck in transmission purgatory for going on 2 months at the dealer waiting for parts. They tell him he has a lot of company.

Were he in SC I could likely help him out, legally speaking.

 

[5.0 Hatch]

Ford keeps winning the recall war. It's incredible.

Are recall repairs profitable for dealers? I'm assuming yes. If so, how so compared to warranty and non warranty repairs?

 

[13COBRA]

Are recall repairs profitable for dealers? I'm assuming yes. If so, how so compared to warranty and non warranty repairs?

No. Most often they pay about 60-65% of what it takes to complete. BUT, you're required to perform them if parts are available if they are safety recalls.

As far as vs warranty repairs, it depends on the state. Missouri pays about 80% of customer pay for warranty work.

 

[5.0 Hatch]

No. Most often they pay about 60-65% of what it takes to complete. BUT, you're required to perform them if parts are available if they are safety recalls.

As far as vs warranty repairs, it depends on the state. Missouri pays about 80% of customer pay for warranty work.

Gotcha. Props to whoever has to keep y'all's financials in order

 

[13COBRA]

Gotcha. Props to whoever has to keep y'all's financials in order

Haha it is a chore sometimes.

 

[Weather Man]

Seeing RAM TRX 5k over and 5k under MSRP around me. Interesting spread, regular pickups are back at commodity pricing now.

 

[13COBRA]

Seeing RAM TRX 5k over and 5k under MSRP around me. Interesting spread, regular pickups are back at commodity pricing now.

The higher level ones are still bringing more money around me. The low level ones are below MSRP. I believe they qualify for RAM's 10% currently.

 

[Blk04L]

Below MSRP eh?

Time to innocently look on cars.com


Edit:

The hell, it's been a while since I've looked at them. 102-125k MSRP?
**** that, rather roll the dice on finding a R.

 

[13COBRA]

Below MSRP eh?

Time to innocently look on cars.com


Edit:

The hell, it's been a while since I've looked at them. 102-125k MSRP?
**** that, rather roll the dice on finding a R.

Raptor Rs are still selling for $10k+ over MSRP.

 

[Blk04L]

Raptor Rs are still selling for $10k+ over MSRP.

For sure, but after 100k on an offroad truck I'm taking Ford's R&D over Ram's anyday.

If this was an 85k TRX vs 10k+ MSRP Raptor R, then I would be persuaded.

I've watched a few TRX's in the dirt. It's not bad, but I would compare it to a Gen 1 Raptor in the way it nose drives/bucks in the back on some jumps

 

[jvandy50]

Below MSRP eh?

Time to innocently look on cars.com


Edit:

The hell, it's been a while since I've looked at them. 102-125k MSRP?
**** that, rather roll the dice on finding a R.

I cannot believe how much they’ve gone up, with basically zero changes, sans a digital dash. My MSRP was 90ish and the same truck now is 115ish…oh what a difference 2 years makes

many of the guys refuse to trade up because there’s almost a 40k difference on trade lol(21-22 to a 24)

 

[tom_tom]

Chevrolet is more reliable than Honda?!?

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[Weather Man]

Chevrolet is more reliable than Honda?!?

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Honda had a lot of engine issues last few years.

 

[598]

After our last Odyssey we didn't look too hard at Honda for a car for the daughter.

 

[Ghost]

For sure, but after 100k on an offroad truck I'm taking Ford's R&D over Ram's anyday.

If this was an 85k TRX vs 10k+ MSRP Raptor R, then I would be persuaded.

I've watched a few TRX's in the dirt. It's not bad, but I would compare it to a Gen 1 Raptor in the way it nose drives/bucks in the back on some jumps

I’m dying to get my hands on a 24 R but the markups kill me