Combos and Dyno numbers - google doc spreadsheet
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This is on the 2nd tab of the spreadsheet, but here are some stats on stock longblock cars that we had fuel information on.
| Supercharger | Cars reported | RWHP Avg | RWTQ Avg | Fuel |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whipple 2.9 Crusher | 3 | 806 | 758 | E85 |
| Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid Cooled | 1 | 759 | 684 | E85 |
| Whipple 2.9 | 4 | 737 | 695 | E85 |
| Hellion Twin 61mm | 1 | 732 | 640 | Pump |
| Whipple 3.4 | 1 | 704 | 714 | E85 |
| TVS | 5 | 701 | 664 | E85 |
| Kenne Bell 2.8 Mammoth | 2 | 681.5 | 590 | Pump |
| Whipple 2.3 | 3 | 673 | 649 | E85 |
| Kenne Bell 2.8H | 2 | 667 | 607 | Torco etc |
| Kenne Bell 2.2 | 9 | 663 | 618 | E85 |
| Whipple 2.9 | 2 | 655 | 591 | Torco etc |
| Kenne Bell 2.6H | 1 | 652 | 592 | Pump |
| TVS | 1 | 647 | 631 | Torco etc |
| Kenne Bell 2.6 | 1 | 620 | 585 | Torco etc |
| Whipple 2.9 | 4 | 613 | 556 | Pump |
| Kenne Bell 2.2 | 6 | 613 | 572 | Torco etc |
| TVS | 13 | 600 | 555 | Pump |
| Kenne Bell 2.4 | 1 | 600 | 518 | Pump |
| Kenne Bell 2.2 | 13 | 593 | 538 | Pump |
| Whipple 2.3 | 9 | 585 | 536 | Pump |
| Kenne Bell 2.8 | 1 | 584 | 541 | Pump |
| Eaton(Posi) | 2 | 551 | 573 | E85 |
| Eaton (Gearheads stage 4) | 1 | 530 | 602 | E85 |
| Eaton+m-122 rotor conversion -posi | 1 | 528 | 552 | Pump |
| Eaton (Steig 3-7) | 3 | 527 | 530 | E85 |
| Eaton (Steig 3-7) | 19 | 506 | 504 | Pump |
| Eaton(Posi) | 9 | 506 | 507 | Pump |
| Eaton(Other port) | 9 | 495 | 497 | Pump |
| Eaton (Pulley only) | 7 | 462 | 479 | Pump |
| Eaton Stock all stock | 1 | 366 | 331 | Pump |
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Supercharger: eaton stock
RWHP: 464
RWTQ: 479
PSI: 14.5
Timing: na
fuel: 93
upper size: 2.76
lower size: stock
CAI: JLT CAI
MAF: stock
TB: stock
Header: stock
mid-pipe: OR prochamber
cat-back: borla stingers
transmission: T56 10 spline
cams: stock
head porting: stock
shortblock/compression: stock
dyno type: not sure
SAE or STD: STD
tuner: DB performance MN
RWHP: 464
RWTQ: 479
PSI: 14.5
Timing: na
fuel: 93
upper size: 2.76
lower size: stock
CAI: JLT CAI
MAF: stock
TB: stock
Header: stock
mid-pipe: OR prochamber
cat-back: borla stingers
transmission: T56 10 spline
cams: stock
head porting: stock
shortblock/compression: stock
dyno type: not sure
SAE or STD: STD
tuner: DB performance MN
yes stock TB with a jlt ram air. Its how i bought it.
If you add my entry (post #114) it'd drop the 2.9 Whipple Crusher numbers a bit. We only made 2 pulls though and we were happy with 777/744.
You were in the spreadsheet, not sure why you weren't showing up. Probably had a filter on shortblock, I've added you to the averages
Supercharger: 2.9L Whipple Crusher
RWHP: 1012
RWTQ: 860
PSI: 19
Timing: 19
fuel: c85
upper size: 3.0
lower size: stock
CAI: Whipple Crusher Inlet
MAF: oem gt500
TB: Whipple Crusher TB
Header: 1 7/8 ARH
mid-pipe: OR X
cat-back: Bassani
transmission: T56 26 spline, Mcleod RXT
cams: custom grinds by NA SVT
head porting: Livernois stage 3
shortblock/compression: Teksid, 5.0 stroker, 10:1 comp.
dyno type: dynojet
SAE or STD: STD
tuner: Shaun @ AED
RWHP: 1012
RWTQ: 860
PSI: 19
Timing: 19
fuel: c85
upper size: 3.0
lower size: stock
CAI: Whipple Crusher Inlet
MAF: oem gt500
TB: Whipple Crusher TB
Header: 1 7/8 ARH
mid-pipe: OR X
cat-back: Bassani
transmission: T56 26 spline, Mcleod RXT
cams: custom grinds by NA SVT
head porting: Livernois stage 3
shortblock/compression: Teksid, 5.0 stroker, 10:1 comp.
dyno type: dynojet
SAE or STD: STD
tuner: Shaun @ AED
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That's badass. I always wondered what a well setup 2.9 would do.
What are the specs on the cams Todd did for you? He thought my cams had to much duration so curious what you got.
I guess my car didn't make it in on the 3.4 numbers its stock long block car.
low 230's in duration and .475 max lift.
I show you with Comp Stage 3 cams?
That's very similar to mine. Intake was .475 lift with 238 duration @ .050 and exhaust .450 lift with 240 duration at @ .050. Where did Todd have you degree your cams? I went with ICL 110 and 116 LSA.
Those numbers are insane! Makes me wanna do some head porting and cams.
But then i look at the cost and dayum. Thats close to $10k in your top end right?
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^^ When you include the heads themselves, it gets extremely expensive in porting, valves, bigger seats, guides, springs, cams, timing gear etc etc.
Stiegemeier wanted $3500 to port my heads. After asking around I found out a very well known cylinder head shop in Kansas City called Nolands has a guy working there who ports heads on side. His company is called "new kid cylinder heads" and he's been porting heads for over 15 years. He has a whole binder of pictures and examples of his work from the early days on up showing his work and flow bench testing etc. He charged me $650 to port my heads and $100 for the lower intake manifold port and gasket match. $750 out the door. Seemed very reasonable to me.
Cams on the other hand got real expensive real quick. When you add in springs, retainers, timing gears and all that.
How much were your custom cams if you don't mind me asking?
Cams were $1300, springs and retainers where $400 some. Ended up been $1800 some change to my door. Then I had to buy adjustable cam gears. While not required I've heard the secondary chains can snap from the extra stress of the stiffer springs so I replaced them with GT500 secondary chains and stock OEM replacement primary chains. Didn't really add all that up but it was well over 2 grand for cams. Consider labor too if you plan to pay someone to install and or degree them. I did it myself.
Supercharger: Steggy Stage 3
RWHP: 500
RWTQ: 458
PSI: 13.4(12.8 @ redline)
Timing: not sure
Fuel: 93
Upper size: 2.76
Lower size: Stock
CAI: JLT Ram Air gen II
MAF: Ba2600
TB: Accufab single blade
Headers: Stock
Mid-pipe: UPR O/R
Cat-back: Borla Stingers
Transmissions: Stock T56 w/Spec Stage 2
Cams: stock
Head porting: stock
Short block/compression: stock
Dyno type: dynojet
Tuner: Bob Kurgan
RWHP: 500
RWTQ: 458
PSI: 13.4(12.8 @ redline)
Timing: not sure
Fuel: 93
Upper size: 2.76
Lower size: Stock
CAI: JLT Ram Air gen II
MAF: Ba2600
TB: Accufab single blade
Headers: Stock
Mid-pipe: UPR O/R
Cat-back: Borla Stingers
Transmissions: Stock T56 w/Spec Stage 2
Cams: stock
Head porting: stock
Short block/compression: stock
Dyno type: dynojet
Tuner: Bob Kurgan
Supercharger: Stock Eaton
RWHP: 400
RWTQ: 372 (not happy about!)
PSI: 8psi
Timing: Stock
fuel: 93 Octane
upper size: Stock
lower size: Stock
CAI: Stock
MAF: Stock
TB: Stock
Header: Stock
mid-pipe: Stock
cat-back: Bassani
transmission: T-56
cams: Stock
head porting: Stock
shortblock/compression: Stock
dyno type: Dynojet
SAE or STD: SAE
tuner: N/A
RWHP: 400
RWTQ: 372 (not happy about!)
PSI: 8psi
Timing: Stock
fuel: 93 Octane
upper size: Stock
lower size: Stock
CAI: Stock
MAF: Stock
TB: Stock
Header: Stock
mid-pipe: Stock
cat-back: Bassani
transmission: T-56
cams: Stock
head porting: Stock
shortblock/compression: Stock
dyno type: Dynojet
SAE or STD: SAE
tuner: N/A
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