Sub'd.
Very good questions. We want to make it clear that neither of these intakes have currently obtained a CARB EO number that would make them legal for use or sale in California, or in states that have adopted CA emissions standards. They will be submitted for the emissions process here shortly.
The short answer to your question is both. In order for an intake company (or any other manufacturer of aftermarket components, for that matter) to obtain a CARB EO number that certifies the product is emissions legal (in California), they must go through a lengthy process with the state. There's quite a bit to it, and all aspects of the product are evaluated to make sure that the product does not impact emissions or interfere with emissions control devices on the vehicle. This has to happen for each and every model and each and every engine for each and every model year. What this means is that let's say we gain approval for the '15 Mustang EcoBoost, for example, and the '16 Mustangs end up being a carry-over, meaning nothing changes. We'll still have to submit for approval for model year '16. Same with the 5.0L, same with the 3.7L. It's a lengthy and complicated process, and some manufacturers choose not to mess with it, which is why they don't have EO numbers for their products. Other times there are design elements that are deemed to interfere with emissions equipment, such as a carbon trap that's present in a factory intake tube that ends up getting removed when the tube is replaced with an aftermarket one. Because carbon traps are considered part of the factory emissions equipment, this could impact the ability of the product to be deemed emissions legal. There are many other examples where design could impact emissions legality. If it sounds complicated, that's because it is.
Great explanation!
Another reason most companies don't get EO's is because it is fairly expensive and can be quite intensive. The testing isn't the same as going down to your local smog station and you are in/out in half an hour, you have to go through the same testing as the OEM's do for new cars. I've heard from multiple companies that have EO's that they have taken in bone stock new vehicles (with the required 4000 miles etc...) to be baselined before adding their product and having the car fail, Dodges are really bad about that...
So, when installing a CAI on a 2011-2014 GT you would need a tune with install what has changed with the new 2015 mustang that this CAI does not require a tune?
dam...can I remove my stock resonator too?
908 SSP, what are your thoughts on the stock airbox??
Um, you are mistaken with our 11-14 GT kits...they do not need a tune. If you pull out the MVT (the removable insert that comes with the intake tube), then you would need a tune. With very few exceptions, all of our kits are designed to work with the factory tuning. There are many, many differences between the '14 and '15 intakes because they fit very different cars, but among the differences is that the '15s do not have the removable tube insert anymore.
Soon!OK I ordered this today from LMR...
It says it will be drop shipped from the manufacturer which I am assuming is you...
Any idea when I can expect it?
Thanks!
OK I ordered this today from LMR...
It says it will be drop shipped from the manufacturer which I am assuming is you...
Any idea when I can expect it?
Thanks!
I just want to ask what makes this worth $200 more than the MMR intake for the Ecoboost?
What are the gains?
What about doing one of these for the 11-14 TVS/WHIPPLE guy's?