Active shooter on Las Vegas Strip

jsd512

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Hang the do not disturb sign up and give the housekeeper a Ben Franklin to leave you alone. Done. Spreading your luggage delivery over the course of a few days is not suspicious. Those guns he had are not large and can be easily packed. Maybe the FBI moved this quickly because a crime of this magnitude has never happened before. There were thousands of people in one constricted area. Easy to hit many when your gun is firing hundreds of bullets a minute.

The do not disturb sign answers that. But I have done the same and it didn't work, they entered when I was out. That guy had a lot of faith in that do not disturb sign.

No one got suspicious seeing 1 guy bring in multiple bags over a few days? That seems out of the ordinary. People who work there maybe should have asked questions, even if it was casual, like, holy shit man, how many bags do you need? I have struck up conversations with strangers before when I noticed something interesting, happens all the time. His behavior wasn't abnormal, he was about to commit mass homicide and no one saw any type of nervous or anxious mannerisms?

Where was security? They have cameras everywhere and they didn't see him getting things organized? He built a platform in his room in order to get a better vantage point. They have trained people looking for scammers, cheaters at gambling and this guy built a gun tower in his room. These casinos are like fort knox but this guy slipped unnoticed by anyone. Strange to me. He literally could have built a fort and no one would have noticed.

The FBI was literally everywhere, so quickly, as if they had an office in that hotel. They were making quite a few assumptions about the case and ruled things out almost immediately without investigation. It's like they are trying to clean this up quickly. I don't remember the response being that quick when Scalise was shot at softball practice.

They say he shot around 1100 rounds over 9 minutes. He hit nearly 600. That is over a 50% hit rate. These targets were moving in all directions once they knew something was wrong. So for most of the time, people were running and ducking for cover in all directions.

This is starting to stink. Reporters have been saying they don't feel as though the police are being forthright. Also, this guy had cameras set up to watch the hallways. Jesus, no one saw a damn thing.
 

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^Look, I don't know if you've ever been to a Vegas casino before but there are literally thousands of people coming and going on a daily basis with multiple entrances to choose from. Someone carrying a suitcase or two is not going to attract attention. Not even a little. Security? Yes they are there but he did nothing to arouse suspicion. And if his room was not being visited because of his do not disturb sign no one is going to know. Also bear in mind that this guy was gambling over 10,000 grand a day. When you do that the casinos leave you alone and give you whatever you want.
 

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It is clear he was burning some liquidity before he cashed in all the way.
 

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The do not disturb sign answers that. But I have done the same and it didn't work, they entered when I was out. That guy had a lot of faith in that do not disturb sign.

No one got suspicious seeing 1 guy bring in multiple bags over a few days? That seems out of the ordinary. People who work there maybe should have asked questions, even if it was casual, like, holy shit man, how many bags do you need? I have struck up conversations with strangers before when I noticed something interesting, happens all the time. His behavior wasn't abnormal, he was about to commit mass homicide and no one saw any type of nervous or anxious mannerisms?

Where was security? They have cameras everywhere and they didn't see him getting things organized? He built a platform in his room in order to get a better vantage point. They have trained people looking for scammers, cheaters at gambling and this guy built a gun tower in his room. These casinos are like fort knox but this guy slipped unnoticed by anyone. Strange to me. He literally could have built a fort and no one would have noticed.

The FBI was literally everywhere, so quickly, as if they had an office in that hotel. They were making quite a few assumptions about the case and ruled things out almost immediately without investigation. It's like they are trying to clean this up quickly. I don't remember the response being that quick when Scalise was shot at softball practice.

They say he shot around 1100 rounds over 9 minutes. He hit nearly 600. That is over a 50% hit rate. These targets were moving in all directions once they knew something was wrong. So for most of the time, people were running and ducking for cover in all directions.

This is starting to stink. Reporters have been saying they don't feel as though the police are being forthright. Also, this guy had cameras set up to watch the hallways. Jesus, no one saw a damn thing.
You got to keep in mind that a lot of those impacts will be secondary and possibly tertiary hits, especially with a 7.62. So we will probably never know a true hit percentage with every round fired.

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One question that comes to mind is, after watching and listening is, what are the odds you hit nearly 600 moving people from that distance? Where are the videos of this guy coming and going into the hotel with all of his luggage? There are cameras everywhere and yet, no videos have made it onto the internet. Also, I have never seen the FBI move this quickly on anything, they were in front of the cameras before you knew it, ruling everything out as a motive before they even investigated anything. They ruled out the girlfriend, then they said she was a person of interest? I don't like conspiracies, but there are some serious questions to ask. What about house keeping? Every time I go to a hotel, housekeeping is cleaning the rooms, they are eveywhere. He was there for 3 days, how did he keep everyone out for 3 days? None of his neighbors heard or saw anything suspicious? What, did the FBI tell everyone to stay away from the cameras and social media and the internet?
Put the do not disturb sign on your door. I was in Vegas for 3 days in May and didn't need house keeping at all.

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They said this guy was shooting for 11min. What would be a realistic number of shots that could be taken had he used a precision rifle? Thinking about it, I think he could have actually done more damage with a scoped, bi-pod mounted AR10, but the full auto effect caused more chaos. Serious question by the way.

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They said this guy was shooting for 11min. What would be a realistic number of shots that could be taken had he used a precision rifle? Thinking about it, I think he could have actually done more damage with a scoped, bi-pod mounted AR10, but the full auto effect caused more chaos. Serious question by the way.

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The advantage with the auto was spray fire. He was looking to do maximum damage instead of precision. I think trying to actually pick people off would have resulted in fewer casualties, but that's just an assumption.
 

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If this guy did shoot through the door and hit an officer in the knee the death scene photo doesn't make sense. If he offed himself that position would be more believable, his body is facing in the wrong direction..
 

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The advantage with the auto was spray fire. He was looking to do maximum damage instead of precision. I think trying to actually pick people off would have resulted in fewer casualties, but that's just an assumption.

I think it could have resulted in more deaths but less injuries actually. They did say a lot of the injuries were sprained ankles though.

If this guy did shoot through the door and hit an officer in the knee the death scene photo doesn't make sense. If he offed himself that position would be more believable, his body is facing in the wrong direction..

That was before SWAT entered. There were two separate attempts. One with a team of cops and a security guard working an event at Mandalay Bay who attempted to make entry. The shooter most likely saw them on camera and fired through the door hitting the security guard in the leg. They then got SWAT on scene who breached but the shooter offed himself because there would be no contest against them. This is the account given by the LV Sheriff during the press conference today.
 

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