From what ive gathered, 12.9's should not be out of reach with the same mods that brings 13.7's to em now. I cant think of anything to complain about on the new car, I think they absolutely NAILED it for the price/performance/pizazz ratio. And thank god the 3.8 is dead for the six, the 4.0 modular mods pretty easily for first time owners. The next svt will be absolutely sick.