13in or 14in brake kit

[gcassidy]

I agree Bruce that better brakes are better brakes.
But if it's a matter of allocating resources, I think they could be better spent on track time...at least in the beginning.
And this is a Mach, a little better balanced (and slower) car than a termy.
But that's what this forum is for. To get ideas, and run with them.
Juan, I say stick with Miller. :beer:

 

[ac427cobra]

I agree Bruce that better brakes are better brakes.
But if it's a matter of allocating resources, I think they could be better spent on track time...at least in the beginning.
And this is a Mach, a little better balanced (and slower) car than a termy.
But that's what this forum is for. To get ideas, and run with them.
Juan, I say stick with Miller. :beer:

Well, that changes my suggestion only slightly. I actually missed the description of the car and 'assumed' it was a Term?! :shrug:

I agree that few things are more important than seat time and exposure to a diversity of different instructors. :thumbsup:

I'm going with the Miller as well! :beer:

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Guys, He has a Mach 1 and already has the PBR front calipers and 13 in rotors.

If you really want to spend money on brakes get the 13in 2000R Brembo kit, or Focus RS calipers. The 14 in kit is overkill for just starting out.

I hated the stock calipers, and the Brembos were the first mod to my car. In fairness, I never ran the PBR stock calipers with better pads and SS lines.

Good SS lines and better pads with the cooling ducts you already have should be a great start, and would be all you need for awhile. The Mach 1 is a bit lighter car, so I can imagine the stock PBR calipers will be more effective.

 

[David Hester]

Um.
We've been using those "marginal" PBR calipers for years in A/Sedan (GM and Ford). We stop our 3300-3500 lbs cars just fine, thank you. ;-)

Yeah, some of the National guys say they have problems with them "clam shelling" or spreading. I guess I'm not that fast, because I've never had a problem. :^(
They did change rules last year to allow any 4 piston caliper with 12.2" rotors.
I have a set of Wilwood's I'll put on when I use up all my PBR parts and pads, but I'm probably good for next couple of seasons.

 

[2004mmmach1]

If i were to have brembo calipers would it be a good idea to use spacers because i have DD Bullet wheels. Or should i have wheels that clear the brakes without spacers. Will 03 cobra replica wheels clear the brakes.

 

[CPViolation]

I want to upgrade my brake but want to know what wverybody recommend. If I get the 00cobraR brake i can have cheaper tires and rims because i just need a 17in rim. But with the 14in gt500 kit i will need 18in wheels and the tire will cost more. Is it a big diferencein the two, is it worth it.

You'll need 18's to fit 14's
Thirteen's are more than enough for the street.
Do you think this set-up will take 17"s?

Jeff

 

[CPViolation]

If i were to have brembo calipers would it be a good idea to use spacers because i have DD Bullet wheels. Or should i have wheels that clear the brakes without spacers. Will 03 cobra replica wheels clear the brakes.

Why mess with the geometry?
Doesn't make sense.
Jeff

 

[gcassidy]

Juan, in the Ford parts bin, three 17" wheels will clear Brembo calipers (I still don't think you need to change them to start with, just get good pads).

'98 Cobra wheels (only 8")
'95 Cobra R (and replicas)
'03 10th Anniv wheels

Happy shopping. But you can run with your stock wheels and good tires until you see if this is for you.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Juan, in the Ford parts bin, three 17" wheels will clear Brembo calipers (I still don't think you need to change them to start with, just get good pads).

'98 Cobra wheels (only 8")
'95 Cobra R (and replicas)
'03 10th Anniv wheels

Happy shopping. But you can run with your stock wheels and good tires until you see if this is for you.

ANY factory Ford 17X9 wheel will fit over the brembos. the only 17X8 that will fit is the 98 cobra.

Bullitt factory and 17X9 replicas will NOT fit.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You'll need 18's to fit 14's
Thirteen's are more than enough for the street.
Do you think this set-up will take 17"s?

Jeff

Yea I think you could get some aftermarket 17s that would fit.

 

[CPViolation]

Yea I think you could get some aftermarket 17s that would fit.

Thanks but it's a little late now.
Do you know which wheels would fit?
I really love the stock chrome Cobra 17x9's
Thanks
Jeff

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Thanks but it's a little late now.
Do you know which wheels would fit?
I really love the stock chrome Cobra 17x9's
Thanks
Jeff

I would start with japanese tuner type wheels. Something definately without a lip There are EVOs that run large calipers like that on similar width wheels.

Do you have more than 1/2 inch clearance between the top of the caliper where the pads drop in and the rim?

 

[CPViolation]

I would start with japanese tuner type wheels. Something definately without a lip There are EVOs that run large calipers like that on similar width wheels.

Do you have more than 1/2 inch clearance between the top of the caliper where the pads drop in and the rim?

Not sure. I'd have to go look and measure.
Thanks man.
Jeff

 

[gcassidy]

ANY factory Ford 17X9 wheel will fit over the brembos. the only 17X8 that will fit is the 98 cobra.

Bullitt factory and 17X9 replicas will NOT fit.

Does the stock '03/04 17x9 fit over Brembo's? I thought I saw some guys on cc.com getting the 10th anniv to replace their stock wheels.

 

[PETSNKE]

Does the stock '03/04 17x9 fit over Brembo's?

Yes they do, that's what I use for my track tires.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Does the stock '03/04 17x9 fit over Brembo's? I thought I saw some guys on cc.com getting the 10th anniv to replace their stock wheels.

Yes, the 03/04 Cobra wheels fit over the Brembos. They were going to anni wheels probably because they are lighter.

 

[CPViolation]

Yes, the 03/04 Cobra wheels fit over the Brembos. They were going to anni wheels probably because they are lighter.

Do they fit over 4 piston 14" caliper GT's?
If so, I got yanked.
Jeff

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Do they fit over 4 piston 14" caliper GT's?
If so, I got yanked.
Jeff

I'm not sure on that one. You might be able to find a local guy to try it. Just cover your calipers in masking tape. Don't want to scratch those babies.

 

[CPViolation]

I'm not sure on that one. You might be able to find a local guy to try it. Just cover your calipers in masking tape. Don't want to scratch those babies.

Thx man.
Jeff

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Thx man.
Jeff

Anytime.
I think Bruce (ac427cobra) has your brake setup. I know his 17" CCWs would not fit, but they are a multipiece design, and need a spacer to fit over the 2000R calipers and 13 in rotors.