Trans BS

People are starting to argue against the affirmation/validation position (de-transitioners, statistics showing that most adolescent transgenders end up just being gay, and suicide rates) because it ignores the possibility of an underlying mental health issue. We have been conditioned and in some cases threatened with legal action for questioning their assertion or decision.

I take the approach of genuine care, communicating that life is challenging for everyone, that accepting and loving yourself for who you are is by far the best way to find peace and happiness. That’s where I suggest you start, establish trust, then hopefully you can reach her and address the real issue which is very likely coming from a place of insecurity, not knowing where to fit it, or wanting to be recognized as important through some level of victimhood or minority status.

93Cobra#2771 said:

Our son went to school with a girl who did the full transition a couple of years after they graduated. During little league ball, she played baseball and not softball but that wasn't totally out of the realm of norm as some parents didn't like how softball was ran at that age.

Girl wasn't an ugly girl or anything like that. Parents divorced, lived with mom, mom had questionable boyfriends (and 8-10 years younger than her IIRC).

Mom was questionable overall in how she behaved. Girl also has a younger brother who seems pretty much normal.

She pitched a fit when she couldn't play high school baseball, as there was a softball team and they wouldn't let her on the BB team.

She's now tatted up, boobs cut off and I don't know if the rest of it has been done. Pimp mustache and such. And she has a girlfriend.

So how does the girlfriend identify? No idea. I mean, is she gay because she likes a girl that transitioned? Or straight? Where's the manual for this stuff?

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If a dude becomes a chick and dates a chick that turns into a dude, I think they’re still straight.

Sort of like two negatives multiply to make a positive.

Maybe they’re BInomial.

72MachOne99GT said:

If a dude becomes a chick and dates a chick that turns into a dude, I think they’re still straight.

Sort of like two negatives multiply to make a positive.

Maybe they’re BInomial.

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Thankfully, they won't be able to reproduce either way.

13BlackGT said:

I can’t say anything at home about this, so I just keep my mouth shut. My wife’s 18 yr old grand daughter thinks she is trans. And my stupid daughter in law. Is all about it and acts like it’s the greatest thing. She will probably screw up the grandson too. I know my wife is against this bullshit but she loves her granddaughter. So, I don’t say a word about it. At a family get together a while back they brought bud light and I won’t drink that crap after the stunt with that goofball trans activist.
The Granddaughter thinks she is a boy. Ties her boobs down and cuts her hair stupid. In my opinion , she is just an ugly girl with major mental problems
It’s frustrating to me that the modern climate is to confuse kids. The news, the government, the schools are all on a mission to brainwash and mess up the young people. And persecute anyone that doesn’t agree with this BS.

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So sorry to hear about this, it is terrible and unfortunate that you have been put in this situation. You absolutely shouldnt remain silent, if they include you in their conversation or situation dont hold back and stay silent. Be honest and compassionate unless they escalate and become aggressive, then give them both barrels.

I have a similar situation in the works with my brother and his oldest daughter who is confused and being deranged by everyone around her that accepts that her being "trans" is right for her. They still havent mentioned anything about it to me and avoid/lie about the subject when I start to ask questions about odd things.

Here is a rundown on where we (wife and I) currently are with our situation. During their last visit I heard my brother calling his daughter by a strange and obviously masculine name, he said it was just a silly child thing and alot of kids make up nicknames. I spoke to him about several issues with the choice of said "nickname" and he brushed it and me off as it was "nothing". It never came up again for the rest of the week.

Unbeknownst to me (I was inside, they were outside) until a few weeks after their visit in front of my wife and child, her parents and her younger sister, my niece out of the blue screamed "IM GAY". My wife simply stated "this is not the right audience for that kind of talk" and it never came up again in front of either of us. My wife asked her parents what that was about and they told her she was trans and since she wasnt going to transition until she was older that made it ok. She shared a story about a friend of ours that went through a similar situation, apparently they beamed with excitement and asked how she is doing now after his transition. Our friend killed himself because of this and she didnt hold back on all of the issues that it brought onto him before he succumbed to his derangement.

She avoided letting me know until after their visit because it would have been the end of their visit. There is a time and place for every conversation but its never going to be in front of my child nor any other. I dont make the effort to call my brother anymore and since he never called me anyways it means we dont talk. We just occasionally text but even that is starting to be one way as he isnt replying much. The wife and I discussed all of this for quite a while and we are just going to be "busy" for the forseeable future, no time for them to visit, no time for us to visit, no more planned vacations. I will agree with everyone here who says that not saying anything is just the same as approving of the behavior. Its not a problem that you can just avoid talking about and have disappear unfortunately but if you can insulate your family from it I absolutely would.

If my niece wants to have an adult conversation about her derangement I would ask her mom or dad first for permission and have them present since she is still just a child. Then with nothing but love, honesty and compassion I would talk to her and her parents about all of the problems she is making for herself and the problems she will be sure to encounter. I firmly believe this issue was born from a lack of attention, affection and acceptance towards my niece and I firmly lay that blame on my brother and his wife. This is 100% their fault and the predators she is trying to make like/love her.

She was awkward and different (as most children becoming young adults are) and instead of receiving help and guidance from her parents she sought out attention, affection and acceptance from the internet and whatever predators that came across her. They are the parents that let a device raise their children rather than be bothered with parenting. I warned my brother about her being part of an "animation group" years ago because she was dealing in adult themed content at the age of 10 and she admitted this group was not with kids but adults. Again he shrugged me off and said "she will be ok" and that even if he wanted to that he wouldnt be able to stop it and was fine with her unrestricted access to the internet and all its dangers. I told him he was wrong and that he needed to reign that in but here we are. To date I have yet to see any of her "art".

Its his and his wifes decision on how to handle the situation with their child, I can only hope and pray that they have the best intentions for their daughter but I have my doubts. I dont have to approve but I also have no say on it until they either invite me into an adult conversation about it or broach the subject in front of me. I will be friendly and loving as a brother and uncle should be. If they drop some more bullshit behind my back or in front of my daughter I will not be friendly, not in the slightest. Best of luck, you arent alone.

p.s.
Glad I waited until the morning and I wasnt drunk to type that out, sheesh.

MG0h3 said:

Well I’d say the first problem is you keeping your mouth shut.

Silence is approval.


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I'm with you and Dom ( @gimmie11s ) on this.

Everyone is different and handles the situation differently @13BlackGT . Based on your post we have the same view towards the situation, but how we handle it is different.

Now, I do not deal directly with the trans situation, but my step daughter (when she was living in my house) was always curious about the gay and trans life. She would watch Ru Pauls Drag Race and Queer Eye for the straight guy and would go to local shows where dudes dressed up like Cher and Dolly Parton.

Her mom was very supportive of her exploration. My wife is not gay, obviously, but she likes gay people. She thinks they are fun and happy. Not in my house they aren't LMAO!!!

However, when they would be around me and talk about it I made it very clear I did not like those people or that behavior. I think it is wrong and just dumb (mental illness or not). So, I would talk S#!T LMAO!!! I would turn my step daughters exploration and fun into a damn joke. So, obviously she stopped talking about it around me and asked her mom not to tell me about her stories.

My step daughter is now 24 and has since moved to Phoenix a few years ago. I'm happy to report she is "normal" and has a boyfriend who she dates regularly. So, thank God her crap was just a phase, but in the end I have no problems telling people what I think about this gay and trans BS.

If you are a girl and your going to chop off your boobs, get a crew cut haircut, throw on some tats and a mustache and put your crap on display in my face every time you come to my house or a family gathering, I'm going to give you my perspective in your face as well. Then once we understand each other we can avoid each other, but at least you will know how I feel about your choices.

No need for that make believe mind virus. I'm not playing their version of make-believe. I suggest you state simply, plainly, and politely your opinion and your expectations.

Kid's got issues that need to be delt with.

Joe Rogan just had Dr. Phil on. Episode 2105. Dr. Phil describes this current movement as a "social contagion". Honestly, I feel that is the best way to look at this. Through social media and MSM, our kids are immersed in this. It's a communicable disease being spread through everything.

As a father, my goal is to be my daughters role model. I want her to see what a strong man looks like. I do shit. I fix shit. I race motorcycles. I work out. I brag about how many push-ups I can do. I let her know that if her boyfriend disrespects or hurts her that I will dismember him (kidding) (kinda). Basically give her an idea of what a loving Dad, and husband to her Mother, looks like. We have had a few instances at the dinner table where my daughter starts describing someone at school who is trans, or whatever. Those are shut down quickly as we move the discussion to mental illness, child abuse, and the en vogue part of announcing to the world that you're gay.

Good luck to the OP. I feel like we've approached a time in our society that serious tough love is the only answer to right the ship. We have to rip the bandage off of so many situations and get to the root.

For the record, I do not have a single problem with anyones chosen beliefs. As long as that agenda isn't pushed down my throat or my daughter's well-being is harmed because of some indoctrination bullshit.

MG0h3 said:

Well I’d say the first problem is you keeping your mouth shut.

Silence is approval.


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Our preacher likes to say this quote:

"God created Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve"

DriftwoodSVT said:

Our preacher likes to say this quote:

"God created Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve"

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There is a funny meme out there somewhere to this effect. Basically, what do you get when you drop 100 transvestites off on a deserted island and come back 100 years later? 100 skeletons. What do you get when drop 100 men and women off on a deserted island and come back 100 years later? A thriving society.

JPKII said:

There is a funny meme out there somewhere to this effect. Basically, what do you get when you drop 100 transvestites off on a deserted island and come back 100 years later? 100 skeletons. What do you get when drop 100 men and women off on a deserted island and come back 100 years later? A thriving society.

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I prefer the one of the grave site extraction of the “trans lady” and the excavators say “this man died of x”

Based on what I have read, my professional opinion is that your grand daughter is a complete retard. That also holds true for anyone else whose head isn't on straight and thinks he/she is not male nor female, uses they, thinks it is something it is not, etc....,

SolarYellow said:

Based on what I have read, my professional opinion is that your grand daughter is a complete retard. That also holds true for anyone else whose head isn't on straight and thinks he/she is not male nor female, uses they, thinks it is something it is not, etc....,

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While I agree I believe it is a "trained" behavior and not a natural one, I feel that these children are being preyed upon and not at fault. No other way to explain it rationally.

*Jay* said:

While I agree I believe it is a "trained" behavior and not a natural one, I feel that these children are being preyed upon and not at fault. No other way to explain it rationally.

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Agree, and will add that I believe the parents, guardians, adults around the child are complicit in the child becoming prey.

I can imagine that an impressionable mind, lacking clear guidance and seeking community would be highly attractive to others with mental issues.

I don't care what others do. Till...it affects others in a negative way. That leaves the door open for a ton of things. Mostly...women's sports and women's/kid's safety. If you say you're a feminist yet support trans men in woman's sports you're a hypocrite. You simply support men and give two shits about women. The only stance I have to them is well if men can do it better so be it. But that's only my stance to them. Biological men shouldn't be in woman's sports and if they cared about women over winning they wouldn't be. Society shouldn't be catering to the less than 1% and their feelings. You can believe in any fairy-tale you want, you can't force others to live there with you. $%#% Your Feelings, $^%# Your Pronouns and your sex life should be private, I don't care and children shouldn't be involved in such matters.

VegasMichael said:

Back when I was a teen if some said trans we automatically thought of this:
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I immediately thought of Theo Von replying to something like that. "Trans? Hell yeah brotha, always loved those cars" lol.

Jason Rantz who is a gay conservative radio host here and is often on Fox news made a good point and observation the other day. He said it's the teen white girls who are falling for this the most because we are in a day and age where not only is it often difficult for teen girls to fit in with all the various cliques, but it's also a time where white people are demonized and often ridiculed openly in schools making it harder for them to feel like they can fit in. They see that the gays and trans kids are celebrated and left alone by those doing the ridiculing so it starts to become enticing and eventually they convince themselves they are not their assigned birth anymore and that they never felt comfortable. Reality is they never felt comfortable because society has targeted them for just their skin color.

Negative social interaction like that that ostricize someone can cause quite a bit of damage to their psyche and constant bullying can definitely drive a kid to look for outlets that allow them to be accepted, and what's easier than just saying you're the opposite sex, changing your clothes, and cutting your hair?

svtfocus2cobra said:

I immediately thought of Theo Von replying to something like that. "Trans? Hell yeah brotha, always loved those cars" lol.

Jason Rantz who is a gay conservative radio host here and is often on Fox news made a good point and observation the other day. He said it's the teen white girls who are falling for this the most because we are in a day and age where not only is it often difficult for teen girls to fit in with all the various cliques, but it's also a time where white people are demonized and often ridiculed openly in schools making it harder for them to feel like they can fit in. They see that the gays and trans kids are celebrated and left alone by those doing the ridiculing so it starts to become enticing and eventually they convince themselves they are not their assigned birth anymore and that they never felt comfortable. Reality is they never felt comfortable because society has targeted them for just their skin color.

Negative social interaction like that that ostricize someone can cause quite a bit of damage to their psyche and constant bullying can definitely drive a kid to look for outlets that allow them to he accepted, and what's easier than just saying you're the opposite sex, changing your clothes, and cutting your hair?

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Spot on.

JPKII said:

For the record, I do not have a single problem with anyones chosen beliefs. As long as that agenda isn't pushed down my throat or my daughter's well-being is harmed because of some indoctrination bullshit.

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I was with you until this. ^

Good people need to stand up for what they believe in and say NO. Not acceptable. We won't accept this behavior. Period.

We know the difference between right and wrong. You know it, I know it, the vast majority of people know it.

Stop accepting this bullshit and the "social slip" our entire society is experiencing will slow down or stop,.

gimmie11s said:

I was with you until this. ^

Good people need to stand up for what they believe in and say NO. Not acceptable. We won't accept this behavior. Period.

We know the difference between right and wrong. You know it, I know it, the vast majority of people know it.

Stop accepting this bullshit and the "social slip" our entire society is experiencing will slow down or stop,.

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And what exactly is the proposition for stopping this stuff within people you don't know?