The HARD TRUTH about EVs

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FJBs Green New Deal collides with lunch pail Joe's domestic content rules. Womp womp womp.

 

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What a load of shit as usual from the GOV and mil.

How is it that EVs cost so much more in the retail area, but will be a cost savings for the Mil?


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Good point Jason. They're not. It's just that since consumers have, for the most part rejected ev's, the dirty politicians who never use them, can appropriate millions of our tax dollars for them. All while lining their donors pockets with our money.

Doesn't the ev push seem oddly familiar? How about supporting Ukraine?

EV's are another money laundering scheme by the politicians.
 

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Wait, wut?
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Score one for the ICE: My buddy at work was super excited to order his Tesla Model X (Performance, not Plaid). He's not a dummy, he knows the quality stories but told me that was probably the newer models, the Model S and X have been in production longer to they are built better. Anyway, he was supposed to take delivery end of December, but upon inspection found a bunch of panels out of alignment, paint issues, a brake system error message, and said one of the Falcon doors opened notably slower than the other. He refused delivery.

Decided to go to the Toyota dealer, and ordered up a new Prius Prime and a GR Corolla. He was out the door with 2 cars for just a little more than the Tesla. And since our work is going to start charging $$$ to use the electric chargers (and the higher ups are getting annoyed with people running out of meetings to get an open charger) he figured this was a much better deal.

He told me his wife is happier as she never liked the look of the Model X and said she really likes the new Prius (it's a pretty good looking car IMO), and he's now a cool dad in his kids' eyes with the GR Corolla.

I was happy to hear he story this morning. Hope to hear more like this!
 

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There's a local putz driving around the "pickup" version. He's got truck plates on it too. Not sure if that's akin to or worse than putting truck plates on Ridgeline.

Have you seen the "off road" version? It has 33 inch tkos but has no ground clearance and the tire fills the entire wheel well. It has to bottom out on even the slightest bump.
 

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The Poster Children for the EV cult as a society, and only 20% since the 90's BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

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Norway introduced EV incentives in the 1990s, then added more when EV technology really took off in the 2010s. EV drivers could get perks like free parking, permission to drive in bus lanes, and, most importantly, exemptions from taxes and fees that could ultimately save them a lot of money. In September, 87% of new-vehicle sales were fully electric vehicles. The problem, Ketan Joshi, a climate-analysis expert in Oslo, told me, is that that stat "doesn't really give you a good picture of the rate of change." Though the new-vehicle sales figure is high, data from Statistics Norway indicates the total share of EVs on Norwegian roads in 2022 was only about 20% — there's still a long way to go until everyone's driving electric.

 

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Score one for the ICE: My buddy at work was super excited to order his Tesla Model X (Performance, not Plaid). He's not a dummy, he knows the quality stories but told me that was probably the newer models, the Model S and X have been in production longer to they are built better. Anyway, he was supposed to take delivery end of December, but upon inspection found a bunch of panels out of alignment, paint issues, a brake system error message, and said one of the Falcon doors opened notably slower than the other. He refused delivery.

Decided to go to the Toyota dealer, and ordered up a new Prius Prime and a GR Corolla. He was out the door with 2 cars for just a little more than the Tesla. And since our work is going to start charging $$$ to use the electric chargers (and the higher ups are getting annoyed with people running out of meetings to get an open charger) he figured this was a much better deal.

He told me his wife is happier as she never liked the look of the Model X and said she really likes the new Prius (it's a pretty good looking car IMO), and he's now a cool dad in his kids' eyes with the GR Corolla.

I was happy to hear he story this morning. Hope to hear more like this!
GR Corolla is way more fun than I thought it would be....
 

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Germany is fun to watch right now. They are staring into the abyss of all the German OEM's going to zero. EV subsidies now killed off. Waiting to see if they revise the latest emissions rules that have the effect of killing off ICE.
 

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People scoff at me when I say I decided I didn't want an EV bomb parked in my garage.


So at the start of this video, the camera focus is on the car, and it stays on the car as it explodes and travels vertically upward. Ya know, like the person holding the camera knew it was going to explode, so it followed it to keep it in frame?

I mean, I hate ladyshavers as much as anybody, but this video looks more like there was a planted explosive charge under the car, than an exploding battery.
 

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Germany is fun to watch right now. They are staring into the abyss of all the German OEM's going to zero. EV subsidies now killed off. Waiting to see if they revise the latest emissions rules that have the effect of killing off ICE.

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So at the start of this video, the camera focus is on the car, and it stays on the car as it explodes and travels vertically upward. Ya know, like the person holding the camera knew it was going to explode, so it followed it to keep it in frame?

I mean, I hate ladyshavers as much as anybody, but this video looks more like there was a planted explosive charge under the car, than an exploding battery.

The EV filled with hydrogen from runaway thermal event. Same as that Jeep in CO, only more robust.
 

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So at the start of this video, the camera focus is on the car, and it stays on the car as it explodes and travels vertically upward. Ya know, like the person holding the camera knew it was going to explode, so it followed it to keep it in frame?

I mean, I hate ladyshavers as much as anybody, but this video looks more like there was a planted explosive charge under the car, than an exploding battery.

I know what you are saying, but I watched it again and the camera movement is slightly delayed. If it was planned or for a movie I feel like it would have been more controlled and crisp. It could be planned, but knowing the batteries are stationed under the floor I see it being possible that it could launch a car if it exploded properly.
 

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