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Got a pic of your door jamb? Everything ive read says gvwr is 2800 kg or 3000 kg, not 6800lbs but I’d be curious to see what the US cars say.

Your suspension components are flimsy compared to any vehicle actually built to tow. Period.

If you want to see what a proper vehicle set up for towing looks like... I’m ur huckleberry.

But WTF do I know I guess?

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Not much, that’s a dodge. lol
 

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Take it from someone that tows with a mid sized suv from time to time....I’m in the market for a truck for a reason. Now the difference is the XC90 is only rated for 6k lbs but that’s not much different then the vehicles you’ve been shopping.

Don’t get me wrong this thing has impressed me but I feel better towing with a full size suv or truck when I’ve done so in the past.
 

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Cayenne with a tow package comes with a tow module that changes the dynamics of the vehicle. Has a hookup under the dash for a 3rd party brake controller, which is all but required for heavy trailering. Brakes are more than sufficient, power and torque are more than sufficient, driveline cooling is more than sufficient.

It tows well.

Some simple math states the maximum trailer weight and gvwr either equals maximum gvwr with trailer weight or is under by less than 10lbs. Meaning by adding a driver puts the car overweight, haha.

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I wouldn't tow 20' of anything with one of these.


I dove deep into this subject after getting a 7 passenger SUV that has 5,000lb tow limit but after research and learning the gvwr, it is not worth buying a small travel trailer or even a pop-up camper. It's all too heavy. I'd only feel comfortable towing an aluminum boat or some kayaks. Haha.



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Take it from someone that tows with a mid sized suv from time to time....I’m in the market for a truck for a reason. Now the difference is the XC90 is only rated for 6k lbs but that’s not much different then the vehicles you’ve been shopping.

Don’t get me wrong this thing has impressed me but I feel better towing with a full size suv or truck when I’ve done so in the past.


Does yours have air bag suspension for off road prowess tho?


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Looking forward to op's I bought a cayenne thread making all this shouting into a wind a waste of time
 

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I mean let’s be honest if you saw some guy hauling a boat out of the water using a Porsche wouldnt you think it was kind of weird?

Not in the least.

Axle center line -- what? Trailer sway brake arms!?!

You're a tow "expert", yet you've never heard of one of these? Trailer Sway Control Kit
You don't know what an axle center line is and how it affects tongue load (and towing in general)?? Yet you're a tow expert?

Got a pic of your door jamb? Everything ive read says gvwr is 2800 kg or 3000 kg, not 6800lbs but I’d be curious to see what the US cars say.

Your suspension components are flimsy compared to any vehicle actually built to tow. Period.

If you want to see what a proper vehicle set up for towing looks like... I’m ur huckleberry.

But WTF do I know I guess?

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Not everything needs to be hit with a small peen hammer. And pulling a 5th wheel is not the same as a hitched trailer.
 

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Does yours have air bag suspension for off road prowess tho?


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Actually yes it does and it will lift the car a bit for slow speed maneuvering or if you put it in sport mode it lowers it a bit. I know you’re being sarcastic as well lol reality is who buys something like this with any off road intent.
 

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Not in the least.



You're a tow "expert", yet you've never heard of one of these? Trailer Sway Control Kit
You don't know what an axle center line is and how it affects tongue load (and towing in general)?? Yet you're a tow expert?



Not everything needs to be hit with a small peen hammer. And pulling a 5th wheel is not the same as a hitched trailer.

No one starts with a 5th wheel, sharpie.

Well.. except for folks like you I guess who are born experts on everything.
 

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Hey if You have the cash I’m sure the Porsche is a blast. I’m also sure the interior is a different level of quality.

The track hawk to me just seems like it would be stupid fun and sounds great with a big blown V8. Aside from the OP, every other review has been stellar and people that own them often say they find themselves less inclined to drive their other performance cars simply because how fun the track hawk is.

Obviously everyone is different and looks for different things out of each car so there really is no wrong choice here.
 

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Some simple math states the maximum trailer weight and gvwr either equals maximum gvwr with trailer weight or is under by less than 10lbs. Meaning by adding a driver puts the car overweight, haha.

With all due respect, I don't think you are plugging in the right numbers for your math.

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5000 (avg) + 200 + 1000 (4x250) = 6200
Trailer 7700
6200 + 7700 < 14000

EDIT need to throw in the 6-700 tongue weight

so 5000 (avg) + 800 tongue and cargo + 750 would exceed listed GVWR. So your buddy will need to be in a pilot car or lose some weight.
 
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With all due respect, I don't think you are plugging in the right numbers for your math.

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5000 (avg) + 200 + 1000 (4x250) = 6200
Trailer 7700
6200 + 7700 < 14000

EDIT need to throw in the 6-700 tongue weight

so 5000 (avg) + 800 tongue and cargo + 750 would exceed listed GVWR. So your buddy will need to be in a pilot car or lose some weight.

Honestly, you wrote what was already said.

I'll post this again. Subtract yellow from green and it will equal or be slightly less than blue.

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Here is the original of the chart YOU posted.

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How are you gonna drive with maxed trailer weight when the maxed trailer weight only leaves you with a few lbs for total weight. You will be overweight.

Those are the maximums listed from the chart YOU provided.


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These guys are making good points.

If I was in your position and had $140k to spend on a single car to drive and tow with, I would buy a used half ton for 20k to tow the boat and do chores. Then probably go for a well equipped Macan. Mostly because I like that more than the Cayenne lol.
 

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Honestly, you wrote what was already said.

I can't tell if you are just misreading or misinterpreting or what. Your math is assuming that someone is going to load up the car with ~1500# of non people cargo. Sure at that point, you can't sit in your car or tow. But nobody is gonna be doing that, because you are going to want to drive. A Cayenne plus a portly 275# driver is well under 6300#. Cayenne curb, as stated on the chart I provided is 5000+/-

Following your interpretation, a bum stock F250--- yellow (trailer) is 13000, green (GCWR) is 23000. Blue (GVWR) is 10000. Guess everyone better stop towing with F-250s lol.
 

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Dang, some of you are being pretty harsh on the OP. He may have been underwhelmed with the power and noise levels but he didn't say it was a POS. Everyone has a different perspective on what is fast and what is an acceptable noise level.

It is very well possible the vehicle sitting for a while, the flat spots on the tires and likely old gas played a role in how it drove. But that isn't the OP's fault. The dealership should take better care of their vehicles, especially vehicles at this price.

There definitely are better choices for towing but that isn't what he strictly needs it for. That is just one criteria he needs for his next vehicle. Some of the other choices people are telling him to go with would require him to settle when it comes to interior and ride quality (and power too).

I mean it's fine to say you don't like his choices but at least give alternatives based on his other criteria he listed and not insinuate he is stupid for even considering the options he wrote.
 

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