Hellcat or S6

My94GT said:

Likely don’t plan to mess with the car much. Just looking for a fun daily driver that looks good and sounds good. I won’t be going to the track either way and I don’t go out to street race so maybe the scat pack is the better buy.

Ultimately the only car I lust for is a gen V viper but I’ll have to wait a few years. We just built our new home, got married, have a kid on the way, and have a huge landscaping project with a deck, shed, and garden build this summer plus just bought the wife’s car haha.

The appealing factor of the hellcat obviously is the power, I also wonder reliability. I have a 50mile commute each way so I’ll be chewing through some miles daily.

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100 miles / day round trip will get old in a Charger FAST.

I’ll start by saying I’m biased as my daily is a S6. That being said, I had a Procharged Boss 302 and a S4 and drove both on an 80 mile round trip commute for work. On the highway, the S4 was one of the most perfect cars I’d ever driven, and the S6 takes that to an entirely different level. Based on this post, I wouldn’t even consider the HC.

Not looking to mod at all really if I can help it. That’s where the appeal came from with the scat pack I drove. I liked the seats, it looks nice, had nice wheels and brakes, and sounded great. The power was pretty good too.

The Audi is a stellar car from what I’ve seen. I love the cross stitched seats. I’ve heard vids of aftermarket exhaust and they can sound good but alas they are pricey as hell to mod.

The more I think about it the more I think scat pack. You can pick up a 2017 in the 30s, heck a 2018 for low 40s.

Fiscally it just seems like a smart move for what I want out of it. Drive it for a year or two then Maybe I can be ready to viper shop by then.

_Snake_ said:

100 miles / day round trip will get old in a Charger FAST.

I’ll start by saying I’m biased as my daily is a S6. That being said, I had a Procharged Boss 302 and a S4 and drove both on an 80 mile round trip commute for work. On the highway, the S4 was one of the most perfect cars I’d ever driven, and the S6 takes that to an entirely different level. Based on this post, I wouldn’t even consider the HC.

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Why do you think a charger would get old fast? I’m just curious? What do you like about the S6 over the S4? I’ve driven plenty of S4 and always liked them but they are a bit on the small side.

My94GT said:

Why do you think a charger would get old fast? I’m just curious? What do you like about the S6 over the S4? I’ve driven plenty of S4 and always liked them but they are a bit on the small side.

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Because a Charger at any trim level won't be the ride that an Audi S6 will be. But are you willing to pay new Hellcat pricing for stock Scat Pack performance? Sure the S6 wakes up with a tune, but what factory turbo car doesn't? Also, is there any chance you will own these vehicles outside of warranty? And will a tune void said warranty? Because right now a tune is about the only performance advantage the S6 holds, and if you can't afford to repair it outside of warranty and a tune will void that warranty, then...

And maybe its because I'm still pretty young, but I daily drove my '11 GT with MT-82 and it was full bolt-ons, had nitrous, a spool and drag radials. Seven days a week, probably 600 miles a week, in all weather conditions. A stock Charger Scat Pack would have been equivalent to a Rolls or something.

zhisel said:

Because a Charger at any trim level won't be the ride that an Audi S6 will be. But are you willing to pay new Hellcat pricing for stock Scat Pack performance? Sure the S6 wakes up with a tune, but what factory turbo car doesn't? Also, is there any chance you will own these vehicles outside of warranty? And will a tune void said warranty? Because right now a tune is about the only performance advantage the S6 holds, and if you can't afford to repair it outside of warranty and a tune will void that warranty, then...

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OP also lives in a snowy state, AWD is always better than RWD for a daily, the Audi AWD system is amazing, mine was a beast in the snow. Plus the Audi weighs less, handles better, better interior, more creature comforts, less common, and so on.

Screw-Rice said:

OP also lives in a snowy state, AWD is always better than RWD for a daily, the Audi AWD system is amazing, mine was a beast in the snow. Plus the Audi weighs less, handles better, better interior, more creature comforts, less common, and so on.

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OP has already stated he drives an XC90 in snowy weather, so Audi's AWD system is a moot (but real) point. From here out, it all depends on just how hooked on a premium ride the OP is. Something tells me that coming from a Fusion, a Charger Scat Pack will still be a real nice ride.

I think real consideration should also be made to the extent of does tuning the S6 void the warranty, or even give the possibility of a massive headache if something were to go wrong, as well as total cost of ownership inside and outside warranty, again depending on length of ownership planned.

My94GT said:

Why do you think a charger would get old fast? I’m just curious? What do you like about the S6 over the S4? I’ve driven plenty of S4 and always liked them but they are a bit on the small side.

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Plus the hellcat does not offer traction. Ben got rid of his simply because there was no traction. Unless you like daily driving on et streets.

They are fun when they hook, if they hook...

ON D BIT said:

Plus the hellcat does not offer traction. Ben got rid of his simply because there was no traction. Unless you like daily driving on et streets.

They are fun when they hook, if they hook...

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Come on man, we both know that’s all about tires. If you want a 707hp automatic car to have traction, you need to drive on drag radials or Toyo R888s. Plain and simple. If you’re not willing to do that, go with something slower and not as cool.


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zhisel said:

OP has already stated he drives an XC90 in snowy weather, so Audi's AWD system is a moot (but real) point. From here out, it all depends on just how hooked on a premium ride the OP is. Something tells me that coming from a Fusion, a Charger Scat Pack will still be a real nice ride.

I think real consideration should also be made to the extent of does tuning the S6 void the warranty, or even give the possibility of a massive headache if something were to go wrong, as well as total cost of ownership inside and outside warranty, again depending on length of ownership planned.

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True on the snow, however in my experience you almost always get caught in snow/rain when you don't expect to be. Saw mention of being on a DR for traction, and they suck ass in rain storms, etc. They've gotten better, but nothing like an all season for example.

A stock S6 is going to be faster than 90% of what's on the road, so unless he's after max power, stock should keep him plenty happy. Which again it will ride and handle far better than something on a 10 year old platform.

Mopar or no car.

Yes I have the XC90 to drive in snow. As far as the hellcat and S6 I likely won’t buy either. The scat pack will likely be the choice simply for a better budget purchase.

As far as the drive, I daily drove a mustang on drag radials for years. I’m not really looking to do that again. I just want something a bit fun, comfy to drive, and sounds good. Remember I’m driving a lowly fusion 1.5 ecoboost right now so it’s like a snail lol.

OP - I just put my daughter to sleep a bit ago and was thinking about this. Before she was born, I was looking hard at getting a 1969 Mustang Fastback to modernize for daily driving duties. After she was born, the car fell to the bottom of my list because the desire for it was no longer there. Not because I can't afford it, but because I invest so much of my time into her that cars became far less important.

My point is, get something that scratches the itch looking term because the Viper may be further out than you realize. And congrats!!! Kids really change your world for the better!

My94GT said:

Why do you think a charger would get old fast? I’m just curious? What do you like about the S6 over the S4? I’ve driven plenty of S4 and always liked them but they are a bit on the small side.

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The S6 is bigger and heavier, and you can feel it. But it’s as fast as a tuned S4 and pulls harder at higher speeds. Factor in the air suspension and its really hard to find something better to eat up miles on the highway.

Cars like the HC Charger, Mustang, Camaro, etc weren’t designed to be high speed long distance haulers. The S6 is. Averaging 21 mpg over 3 tanks while still having fun.

Almost forgot. The interior of the S6 embarrasses the S4’s in every way. It’s absolutely top shelf.

I can’t upload a pic right now for some reason (keeps saying no file selected).

MastaAce03 said:

Come on man, we both know that’s all about tires. If you want a 707hp automatic car to have traction, you need to drive on drag radials or Toyo R888s. Plain and simple. If you’re not willing to do that, go with something slower and not as cool.


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Not many s6 v HC at the strip but those I did find were the Audi running out front. Traction is key specially under 100mph.

I owned an A4 and S4. I will never buy another Audi again. I went and looked at them again before we bought the Genesis... Every one I got in had such a bad chemical smell that we couldn't stand sitting in them. I almost vomited before I left. My wife and son had the same reaction too.

I daily drove 3 different SRT8 Challengers, an SRT392 Challenger and currently commute with and Challenger SRT Hellcat. 70 miles round-trip on the days I go into the office. It's one of the top 5 most fun cars I have ever owned and I'm on #64 since 1994. I don't know how many I have owned in total because I had a different insurance company before 1994.

gimmie11s said:

S6 is one bad bitch of a car. Does not get anywhere near the respect it deserves.

The interior will make the HC's look like a 1990s f-body Camaro (ok maybe not that bad).

Tune-only TT v8 audis run 10s at close to 130. Downpipes/intakes/exhaust and those turds are nasty fast.

Plus they look gorgeous IMO.

The only way i'd go HC over S6 would be if I was shooting for 9 sec slips or 1k horsepower. Then i'd buy/build a Hellcat car and call it done.

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Aren't they expensive to maintain and a bitch to work on, though?

ON D BIT said:

Not many s6 v HC at the strip but those I did find were the Audi running out front. Traction is key specially under 100mph.

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Cmon man your better than that. Using that lame video?
Trust me from a guy that actually knows, the Hellcat on drag radials is faster. No debate.
If you're not running DRs on your Hellcat (on widened 10.5-11" rears), you're doing it wrong.
Hell my buddy here ran 10.80s with stock size 275/40/20 NT555Rs.
Also, the Charger chassis is basically the same as older MB E-class. Still miss my E55 AMG, but the ride quality on the 3-way Bilsteins and comfortable seats make it an awesome highway ride.
No probably not an S6 but WAY better than a Focus/Fusion.
Also OP, look at 392 SRT Daytona Chargers they get Hellcat brakes and suspension and drive modes, a huge upgrade.
I don't know as much about non Hellcats but there are a ton of Charger packages than can really bridge a base Scat and Hellcat. Good luck
-J

biminiLX said:

Cmon man your better than that. Using that lame video?
Trust me from a guy that actually knows, the Hellcat on drag radials is faster. No debate.
If you're not running DRs on your Hellcat (on widened 10.5-11" rears), you're doing it wrong.
Hell my buddy here ran 10.80s with stock size 275/40/20 NT555Rs.
Also, the Charger chassis is basically the same as older MB E-class. Still miss my E55 AMG, but the ride quality on the 3-way Bilsteins and comfortable seats make it an awesome highway ride.
No probably not an S6 but WAY better than a Focus/Fusion.
Also OP, look at 392 SRT Daytona Chargers they get Hellcat brakes and suspension and drive modes, a huge upgrade.
I don't know as much about non Hellcats but there are a ton of Charger packages than can really bridge a base Scat and Hellcat. Good luck
-J

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He didn't say they're faster, he said they get out in front because of AWD. You see the S6 getting reeled in at the top end after the hellcat spun at the start.

Are we forgetting how expensive it is to do maintenance on any Audi? Any person I know who's owned an Audi said they're nightmares when stuff starts breaking, regardless of warranty.

BlckBox04 said:

Are we forgetting how expensive it is to do maintenance on any Audi? Any person I know who's owned an Audi said they're nightmares when stuff starts breaking, regardless of warranty.

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My mechanic/good friend says the same thing. I mentioned to him I might be interested in purchasing an Audi before I bought my new truck and he sighed. lol
He then told me about the maintenance and the costs.