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This Michigan scandal is absolutely glorious. @Vinnie_B

Apparently, the Michigan staff member bought midfield tickets from 11 different Big Ten schools and a total of 30 games over the past 2 years. There are at least 3 other people involved. He had purchased 2 tickets with a perfect vantage point of the OSU sideline and 2 tickets of the same caliber for a view of the Penn State sideline for the past weekend, but once the story broke on Thursday, no one showed up to sit in those seats. Michigan plays both teams later this season. There is also surveillance footage of people in seats purchased by the Michigan staff member recording the sideline and signals for entire games with a cell phone.

I wonder how OSU average almost 50 points per game last season, were held to 23 vs. Michigan, then followed that up with 40+ points against an all-time defense in Georgia in the Peach Bowl. They couldn't be stopped except for cheating and the game vs. Northwestern when it was so windy that the kicker tried kicking a field goal and the wind blew the ball backwards. Also, Michigan went on to lose in the playoff to TCU, who got blown out by Georgia in the title game. Michigan didn't know it was playing TCU until the final rankings were announced after championship Saturday, so Michigan didn't have a chance to run surveillance and steal all of TCU's signs! LOL

I am absolutely loving this! LOL
 
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This Michigan scandal is absolutely glorious. @Vinnie_B

Apparently, the Michigan staff member bought midfield tickets from 11 different Big Ten schools and a total of 30 games over the past 2 years. There are at least 3 other people involved. He had purchased 2 tickets with a perfect vantage point of the OSU sideline and 2 tickets of the same caliber for a view of the Penn State sideline for the past weekend, but once the story broke on Thursday, no one showed up to sit in those seats. Michigan plays both teams later this season. There is also surveillance footage of people in seats purchased by the Michigan staff member recording the sideline and signals for entire games with a cell phone.

I wonder how OSU average almost 50 points per game last season, were held to 23 vs. Michigan, then followed that up with 40+ points against an all-time defense in Georgia in the Peach Bowl. They couldn't be stopped except for cheating and the game vs. Northwestern when it was so windy that the kicker tried kicking a field goal and the wind blew the ball backwards. Also, Michigan went on to lose in the playoff to TCU, who got blown out by Georgia in the title game. Michigan didn't know it was playing TCU until the final rankings were announced after championship Saturday, so Michigan didn't have a chance to run surveillance and steal all of TCU's signs! LOL

I am absolutely loving this! LOL

The blatant stupidity of this shit is what always gets me. How hard it is it to have someone else buy the ****ing seats for you
 

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This Michigan scandal is absolutely glorious. @Vinnie_B

Apparently, the Michigan staff member bought midfield tickets from 11 different Big Ten schools and a total of 30 games over the past 2 years. There are at least 3 other people involved. He had purchased 2 tickets with a perfect vantage point of the OSU sideline and 2 tickets of the same caliber for a view of the Penn State sideline for the past weekend, but once the story broke on Thursday, no one showed up to sit in those seats. Michigan plays both teams later this season. There is also surveillance footage of people in seats purchased by the Michigan staff member recording the sideline and signals for entire games with a cell phone.

I wonder how OSU average almost 50 points per game last season, were held to 23 vs. Michigan, then followed that up with 40+ points against an all-time defense in Georgia in the Peach Bowl. They couldn't be stopped except for cheating and the game vs. Northwestern when it was so windy that the kicker tried kicking a field goal and the wind blew the ball backwards. Also, Michigan went on to lose in the playoff to TCU, who got blown out by Georgia in the title game. Michigan didn't know it was playing TCU until the final rankings were announced after championship Saturday, so Michigan didn't have a chance to run surveillance and steal all of TCU's signs! LOL

I am absolutely loving this! LOL
TCU shit the ****ing bed in that game, holyshit that was shameful. I was scratching my head and asking how the **** did they sneak into the playoffs and the title game after that. I hope we never see TCU ever ranked again after that dive.
 

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This Michigan scandal is absolutely glorious. @Vinnie_B

Apparently, the Michigan staff member bought midfield tickets from 11 different Big Ten schools and a total of 30 games over the past 2 years. There are at least 3 other people involved. He had purchased 2 tickets with a perfect vantage point of the OSU sideline and 2 tickets of the same caliber for a view of the Penn State sideline for the past weekend, but once the story broke on Thursday, no one showed up to sit in those seats. Michigan plays both teams later this season. There is also surveillance footage of people in seats purchased by the Michigan staff member recording the sideline and signals for entire games with a cell phone.

I wonder how OSU average almost 50 points per game last season, were held to 23 vs. Michigan, then followed that up with 40+ points against an all-time defense in Georgia in the Peach Bowl. They couldn't be stopped except for cheating and the game vs. Northwestern when it was so windy that the kicker tried kicking a field goal and the wind blew the ball backwards. Also, Michigan went on to lose in the playoff to TCU, who got blown out by Georgia in the title game. Michigan didn't know it was playing TCU until the final rankings were announced after championship Saturday, so Michigan didn't have a chance to run surveillance and steal all of TCU's signs! LOL

I am absolutely loving this! LOL
I never got the hoopla surrounding the "sin" of stealing signs. If someone steals/discovers/knows your signs, tough titty.
 

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I never got the hoopla surrounding the "sin" of stealing signs. If someone steals/discovers/knows your signs, tough titty.

You are allowed to steal signs in game and in person. But you cannot set up surveillance at stadiums across the US to record the signs and play calls of your future opponents. It gives you a massive advantage.

Ohio state has several libraries of signs. They switch to different signals during the season, but if they have been recorded all season, it is easy to crack the code when you have a guy on the sideline telling you what they are running because he has recorded your sideline all season.


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You are allowed to steal signs in game and in person. But you cannot set up surveillance at stadiums across the US to record the signs and play calls of your future opponents. It gives you a massive advantage.

Ohio state has several libraries of signs. They switch to different signals during the season, but if they have been recorded all season, it is easy to crack the code when you have a guy on the sideline telling you what they are running because he has recorded your sideline all season.


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True, but if every team did surveillance(and I'll bet many big name programs do) there wouldn't be an advantage/disadvantage anymore. There's so many damn phones in a stadium these days that every sign must be getting captured somewhere by somebody, either intentionally or not. Question is: who do they send those videos to?
 

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True, but if every team did surveillance(and I'll bet many big name programs do) there wouldn't be an advantage/disadvantage anymore. There's so many damn phones in a stadium these days that every sign must be getting captured somewhere by somebody, either intentionally or not. Question is: who do they send those videos to?

seems like it would put smaller programs at a definite disadvantage, it costs money to do that. UF brings in north of 50 million in tv revenue split alone, meanwhile an American conference team might bring in 10.
 

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I played DII football, and there were teams then stealing signs and such. It is what it is.

If Team A has $1bil to film every sign on the field, let them spend it. If Team B can't afford to do it, find your edge elsewhere.

Teams have film on their opponents from every game all season, and have for 50 years. This is just the next step up in data collection.

If you want to avoid having your signs stolen, change them every single game. Wouldn't take much effort, this is what we did in college.
 

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True, but if every team did surveillance(and I'll bet many big name programs do) there wouldn't be an advantage/disadvantage anymore. There's so many damn phones in a stadium these days that every sign must be getting captured somewhere by somebody, either intentionally or not. Question is: who do they send those videos to?
It has been illegal since 1994, and there is a difference between watching film on a team vs going to games, recording the sidelines/signals, and coding/decoding them. The guy was a recruiting admin and is standing on the sideline in the coaches box next to each of the coordinators (offensive and defensive), with a phone book full of notes from videos he orchestrated the recording of over the past year. Michigan is going to get obliterated for this and I'm here for it. If you don't think it is a big deal, how did they turn the tables on their rivalry with OSU is short order? They have waxed us for 2 straight years.

 

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It has been illegal since 1994, and there is a difference between watching film on a team vs going to games, recording the sidelines/signals, and coding/decoding them. The guy was a recruiting admin and is standing on the sideline in the coaches box next to each of the coordinators (offensive and defensive), with a phone book full of notes from videos he orchestrated the recording of over the past year. Michigan is going to get obliterated for this and I'm here for it. If you don't think it is a big deal, how did they turn the tables on their rivalry with OSU is short order? They have waxed us for 2 straight years.

I understand that it's illegal. I'm just saying that I don't care if teams are doing it. I'd wager a whole lot of teams are already doing it and just haven't been caught yet.
 

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I understand that it's illegal. I'm just saying that I don't care if teams are doing it. I'd wager a whole lot of teams are already doing it and just haven't been caught yet.
The video is of the first drive of the game last November. In other words, if you are stealing signs in person during the game (which is legal), they couldn't have stolen and decoded the signs on the very first drive. They obtained the information through recording the OSU sideline and signals at multiple games (to make sure they had OSU's entire library recorded) in person throughout the season leading up to the game, which isn't only illegal, but once punishment is handed down, you will realize how illegal it is. Michigan had a network of people recording future opponents sidelines for multiple games. Insane you don't think that is cheating. LOL
 

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The video is of the first drive of the game last November. In other words, if you are stealing signs in person during the game (which is legal), they couldn't have stolen and decoded the signs on the very first drive. They obtained the information through recording the OSU sideline and signals at multiple games (to make sure they had OSU's entire library recorded) in person throughout the season leading up to the game, which isn't only illegal, but once punishment is handed down, you will realize how illegal it is. Michigan had a network of people recording future opponents sidelines for multiple games. Insane you don't think that is cheating. LOL
Every time a flag is thrown it's because there was cheating. Probably a third of D1 players are using PED's and either aren't tested or know what masking agents to use.
And I didn't say it wasn't cheating, I said I didn't care.
 

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