On This Day.......

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Here is an interesting first hand eye witness that you may have heard of before, fast forward to 5min mark;


"I couldn't believe it! A Hole! This is Steel! The heaviest calibre Steel! There had to be bombs"

 

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You’re offering up no valid evidence to sway me away from believing what I’ve read and watched in books/documentaries.

This is also a really good read.

https://www.ae911truth.org/images/WTCPhysics/World-Trade-Center-Physics.pdf

 

[ajaf1656]

I can post links to websites that claim Lady Gaga is a man. It must be true.

 

[SSSSSSSSSSSSVT]

I can post links to websites that claim Lady Gaga is a man. It must be true.

When you post a link that has 3000 doctors that signed a petition that states they believe she is a man then I might have to take that link seriously.

 

[ajaf1656]

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking World Trade Center Myths

 

[ajaf1656]

Bigfoot told me that the moon landing was fake.

 

[ajaf1656]

Chupacabra was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.

 

[SVTdreamin04]

Bigfoot told me that the moon landing was fake.

He is posting some reasoning behind his beliefs. I am not saying I agree, but how can we discredit something without at least reading it first.


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[ajaf1656]

He is posting some reasoning behind his beliefs. I am not saying I agree, but how can we discredit something without at least reading it first.


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Because the as$hole morons hijacked a thread started to memorialize those lost on 9/11 to play their idiotic games. I’m not an expert in structural engineering, but I am an expert in aviation. Not a single thing they’ve said related to the aviation side of the attacks has been even remotely accurate. I’ll let the appropriate experts debunk their theories on the structural failures. See the popular mechanics article I posted.

 

[SSSSSSSSSSSSVT]

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking World Trade Center Myths

Popular Mechanics just refers to the NIST report for its findings. Much like an investigator referring to the killer for its information source. This PDF from Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth uses science to debunk the NIST report and therefore the Popular Mechanics article/book.

https://www.ae911truth.org/images/WTCPhysics/World-Trade-Center-Physics.pdf

On a side note does anyone find the John McCain forward in the Popular Mechanics book a bit interesting considering what we know about McCain now?

 

[Klaus]

Sadly, some believe all of that.


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Every conspiracy moron ever. The current crop of epstein dipshits is in the same category.

 

[SVTdreamin04]

Because the as$hole morons hijacked a thread started to memorialize those lost on 9/11 to play their idiotic games. I’m not an expert in structural engineering, but I am an expert in aviation. Not a single thing they’ve said related to the aviation side of the attacks has been even remotely accurate. I’ll let the appropriate experts debunk their theories on the structural failures. See the popular mechanics article I posted.

I agree with this being the wrong thread, but here we sit. Name calling and emotionally charged responses will not make this thread get any better, it only made it worse. If we listen to the other side, hear where they’re coming from, no matter how far fetched we feel it is, we can have a better outcome than everyone getting angry because they disagree.

I didn’t want this thread to go this route as you can tell by my previous posts, but here we sit. So let’s look at what has been offered up to us, dissect it and offer up why we disagree.


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Not a single thing they’ve said related to the aviation side of the attacks has been even remotely accurate.

So you're saying anyone could take a 757 jet from 30,000ft and put it into the 90th story of a building without having to go around once? With zero help from the ATC? With zero experience in the cockpit of a Jet Airliner? You are telling me that with your experience this all seems 100% feasible?

 

[MassCobra]

Comparing this building to building 7 with full fire suppression system is like comparing the new GT500 to a 1972 Yugo. Yes they are both cars. Thanks for the laugh. Also how long did the Brazil fire burn for? Another question is why was Building 7 on fire in the first place? And why did the owner of Building 7 decide to announce to "pull it" ?

What I don't get is what would be the point of taking down building 7? I mean when, as you imply, the masterminds of the United States Government were planning this attack they decided that taking out 2 110 story towers wasn't going to be enough to get anyone's attention but if we include building 7 that will really get us the shock factor we're looking for?

 

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What I don't get is what would be the point of taking down building 7? I mean when, as you imply, the masterminds of the United States Government were planning this attack they decided that taking out 2 110 story towers wasn't going to be enough to get anyone's attention but if we include building 7 that will really get us the shock factor we're looking for?

Good question. Most people don't even know about Building 7.

 

[ajaf1656]

So you're saying anyone could take a 757 jet from 30,000ft and put it into the 90th story of a building without having to go around once? With zero help from the ATC? With zero experience in the cockpit of a Jet Airliner? You are telling me that with your experience this all seems 100% feasible?

Yes.

The altitude would make it easier not harder. I don’t know why you think it’d be hard to fly at a building from up high.

While there are a lot of buttons and switches in the cockpit of an airliner, the controls function just like a small airplane. You don’t need to know how to operate anything besides the basic controls to fly it in the direction you want to go. It’s not like they were up there performing the procedures for a low cabin pressurization indication or a dual generator failure.

ATC wouldn’t be of any help either. Saying they didn’t get help from ATC is a meaningless comment.

Why exactly do you think it would be a difficult task?

 

[Corbic]

What I don't get is what would be the point of taking down building 7? I mean when, as you imply, the masterminds of the United States Government were planning this attack they decided that taking out 2 110 story towers wasn't going to be enough to get anyone's attention but if we include building 7 that will really get us the shock factor we're looking for?

Exactly.


This is why the conspiracy is bullshit.

Is he claiming the planes never hit that towers? That the live stream of the second plane broadcast from a dozen different angles across a hundred networks was fake?

The just basic logic doesn't follow.

 

[Corbic]

Yes.

The altitude would make it easier not harder. I don’t know why you think it’d be hard to fly at a building from up high.

While there are a lot of buttons and switches in the cockpit of an airliner, the controls function just like a small airplane. You don’t need to know how to operate anything besides the basic controls to fly it in the direction you want to go. It’s not like they were up there performing the procedures for a low cabin pressurization indication or a dual generator failure.

ATC wouldn’t be of any help either. Saying they didn’t get help from ATC is a meaningless comment.

Why exactly do you think it would be a difficult task?

And again, he's leaving out the +2years of documented preparations and training these guys underwent. I suspect they read more then one manual and studied the cockpits, flight paths, etc extensively.

Again, a Kamakazi was able to fly an extremely complicated Zero a thousand miles across the ocean to dive into a ship while being shot at from hundreds of AA guns.

These pilots had minimal training, absolutely no computer or GPS support and in many cases struck home.


Again, if the goal was "fake a terrorist attack by faking a plane crash and using explosives".

Why not just skip a step? Just plant the explosives and frame some terrorists? Why not just use the planes and skip the explosives? The two strikes alone surely doomed 3,000 people to death and ensured a military response.


Where is all this free Iraq oil we where supposed to get?

 

[SVTdreamin04]

Building 7 is questionable, no doubt about that. But it did not collapse until after 5 pm on 9/11, correct?

I honestly haven’t read/watched enough about Building 7 at this time to say anything intelligent about it. I need to read up on this.


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[Corbic]

Building 7 is questionable, no doubt about that. But it did not collapse until after 5 pm on 9/11, correct?

I honestly haven’t read/watched enough about Building 7 at this time to say anything intelligent about it. I need to read up on this.


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Have two massive buildings weighing millions of tons crash right next to you and leave a 300 foot deep crater may or may have a slight impact on the structural integrity of a building.... Just saying.