Oink.
The c8 is going to hurt some ****ing feelings and I love it. People are already comparing the top tier mustang to the base model c8, the c8 is going to shit on the gt500 in most aspects.Cue the C8 conversation... Haha
I haven't, are toyota fans pissed about their new bmw?The c8 is going to hurt some ****ing feelings and I love it. People are already comparing the top tier mustang to the base model c8, the c8 is going to shit on the gt500 in most aspects.
Have you seen the backlash on social media from people on the Toyota pages about the new Supra? It’s brutal lol
Well... How much does the ZL1 weigh?
Some of the people buying the new gt500 circa 2015.
“I’d never buy a fat pig like the hellcat, it’s too heavy”.
These same people now in the present.
“The new gt500 has a dct and it’s a Ford so weight is not a issue for me”.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. At that weight, I'd rather buy an M5 Competition or a CTS-V (if any new ones are still out there) or just about any luxury sport sedan.
As you and Premi are comparing the M5 and it appears you are driving a convertible, then it appears performance isn’t the priority.At first I thought "Well that's dumb statement, they're not even in the same price range" but then I looked and, yeah as shocking as it is coming out of my mouth I think I would take the M5.
ZL1 1LE is 60lb lighter than zl1. They did a few things, went smaller 19" wheels, compared to 20 on the reg zl1.As you and Premi are comparing the M5 and it appears you are driving a convertible, then it appears performance isn’t the priority.
And I’d like to see the MSRP of a commonly optioned M5, as it will almost certainly be significantly higher.
My point has always been anything over 4000# isn’t a good starting point.
That said, 4225# is quoted base weight from what I can tell.
I’d like to see an actual car scaled versus Ford documents, but we have 2 members telling us the main competitors are 3880# (auto ZL1) and 4380# (light base narrow body Redeye).
I’m guessing the CFTP GT500 will be 4150# or a touch less, so it’s 270# heavy but 110hp over a ZL1 and 230# lighter but 40hp down from a light RE.
I think we’re all disappointed at the weight, but I think we need to see the performance before passing final judgment on the package as a whole.
I’m going to guess we will all be happy with the performance, so let’s weight and see what the actual cars scale at and the numbers they put out.
I’m still a buyer and I’m guessing true Mustang guys who prioritize performance and are able to afford it, will also.
Let’s hope these factors allow more of us to find cars without crazy ADM!
-J
New edges (sans the Cobra) were shit.
As you and Premi are comparing the M5 and it appears you are driving a convertible, then it appears performance isn’t the priority.
And I’d like to see the MSRP of a commonly optioned M5, as it will almost certainly be significantly higher.
My point has always been anything over 4000# isn’t a good starting point.
That said, 4225# is quoted base weight from what I can tell.
I’d like to see an actual car scaled versus Ford documents, but we have 2 members telling us the main competitors are 3880# (auto ZL1) and 4380# (light base narrow body Redeye).
I’m guessing the CFTP GT500 will be 4150# or a touch less, so it’s 270# heavy but 110hp over a ZL1 and 230# lighter but 40hp down from a light RE.
I think we’re all disappointed at the weight, but I think we need to see the performance before passing final judgment on the package as a whole.
I’m going to guess we will all be happy with the performance, so let’s weight and see what the actual cars scale at and the numbers they put out.
I’m still a buyer and I’m guessing true Mustang guys who prioritize performance and are able to afford it, will also.
Let’s hope these factors allow more of us to find cars without crazy ADM!
-J
Lol.
I’ll weight and see as well
Sent from my POFS iPhone in a rage cause this is the third try.
You take that back!
They were complicated is much more acceptable term.
Lol
Sent from my POFS iPhone in a rage cause this is the third try.
I was a victim too, unfortunately. Had a new edge back in the day.
I will say this.
They were so “under dog” that with minimal bolt on crap through an auto it managed to put down 230/290
And honestly if the camaro boyz weren’t paying attention I could get past most of the time.
Also scared the shit out of 3v on the reg.
Shook rattled and rode terribly. But I luved it.
Sent from my POFS iPhone in a rage cause this is the third try.
As you and Premi are comparing the M5 and it appears you are driving a convertible, then it appears performance isn’t the priority.
And I’d like to see the MSRP of a commonly optioned M5, as it will almost certainly be significantly higher.
My point has always been anything over 4000# isn’t a good starting point.
That said, 4225# is quoted base weight from what I can tell.
I’d like to see an actual car scaled versus Ford documents, but we have 2 members telling us the main competitors are 3880# (auto ZL1) and 4380# (light base narrow body Redeye).
I’m guessing the CFTP GT500 will be 4150# or a touch less, so it’s 270# heavy but 110hp over a ZL1 and 230# lighter but 40hp down from a light RE.
I think we’re all disappointed at the weight, but I think we need to see the performance before passing final judgment on the package as a whole.
I’m going to guess we will all be happy with the performance, so let’s weight and see what the actual cars scale at and the numbers they put out.
I’m still a buyer and I’m guessing true Mustang guys who prioritize performance and are able to afford it, will also.
Let’s hope these factors allow more of us to find cars without crazy ADM!
-J
GT Premi, come to the dark side.
As you and Premi are comparing the M5 and it appears you are driving a convertible, then it appears performance isn’t the priority.
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