My son is thinking about this 2013 3.7 Mustang...

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IMO a 17 YO doesn’t need 420 horses. I had an ‘88 GT at age 21 and those 225 horses were more than I “needed”. OP’s son has a lot of years ahead of him to upgrade, and starting with 305 horses is something I would have been thrilled with way back when.
 

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Nice car but as said, you can get a coyote car for the same price.

When my oldest hits driving age though, he'll be in an Evo or WRX, awd DSM, or a Golf R. Something with decent power and AWD so he doesn't go flying off the road into crowds at 17 years old.
This makes the most sense imo
 

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I do not think handing the keys to a 412hp tail happy car over to a 17 year old is the smartest idea. This car is still 305hp, it will still run door to door with a 05-10 3v GT and it's a lot faster than the SN95/New Edge GT's most of you were driving in high school. Hell a crappy driver in a 99/01 cobra or 03/04 mach would be in trouble.

One other thing to keep in mind? He's 17, I'm sure he isn't making a ton of money in the military being so young, this is still a quick car that can get 30mpg highway all day long. My 16 GT gets 25 at best and about 16 around town.


Nice car but as said, you can get a coyote car for the same price.

When my oldest hits driving age though, he'll be in an Evo or WRX, awd DSM, or a Golf R. Something with decent power and AWD so he doesn't go flying off the road into crowds at 17 years old.

A WRX/STi won't spin backwards off the road, it'll just understeer off the road instead.
 

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A WRX/STi won't spin backwards off the road, it'll just understeer off the road instead.

Care to explain that one?

I had a bottom 11 second awd 4 banger with almost 500 hp and had 0 issues with understeer over a 10 year period.

Reading too many magazines perhaps. Randy Pobst won’t be driving subject car.




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I’d go for the Cyclone. Seems like a nice car with some very unusual options on a 6 banger. Being he’s a marine now I think he’ll have a stronger grasp on discipline when it comes to many aspects of life. Only reason I survived my supercharged Roush at 19 was a much needed wake up call.


Pick your poison.
 

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Nothing wrong with the 3.7, it's a lot of car but you get the guys who can't look past the v8. There's plenty of them out there running 10s and 11s with boost. It's a better car then the 05-09 gt and similar quickness and world's better than a 2v.

Sure the coyote is a better platform but sounds like you are putting him on a good plan.
 

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I had a 2013 with the 3.7, also the MCA edition like that one.

No issues with the transmission, and none with the stock engine for me. But I found that the 3.7 was not very turbo friendly - the Procharger works well on it, limiting boost to no more than 8lbs, if he decides he wants some more performance out of it.
 

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Nice car but as said, you can get a coyote car for the same price.

Where is this? 13k for a loaded 3.7 with 60k is a decent deal. Unlike the old 3.8 and 4.0s, the 3.7 will respond decently to basic bolt ons if he really wanted a little boost. Or hell, used Vortechs and prochargers are always for sale. The only 5.0's I am seeing for under 16k are 2011-12 base models with accident histories.


If thats false, let me know where I can find a nicely optioned coyote with low miles and no accidents for 13k so I can trade in my Honda.
 

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Care to explain that one?

I had a bottom 11 second awd 4 banger with almost 500 hp and had 0 issues with understeer over a 10 year period.

Reading too many magazines perhaps. Randy Pobst won’t be driving subject car.


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I imagine you're not a 17 year old or someone with the driving skills of a 17 year old. All it takes is one panic turn while coming into a turn to hot and those skinny front tires are going to give out. I know AWD is being marketed as "super safe" but that's more so true when you're driving a 150hp impreza automatic.


We were all retarded in high school, do you really think giving a high school kid an evo or WRX is a great idea? Hell I remember someone I went to school with had a bolt on SRT4 Neon, he got busted by a state trooper doing well over a hundred on the NJTP. Trooper ended up calling his parents on the side of the highway.


I don't know, maybe I'm missing something, but I know I've been here long enough to see tons of threads about kids in high power cars crashing during street races, or even general dicking around, followed by the "well no teenager should have that powerful of a car!" comments. Then I flip the page and see "well I'm going to get my kid this cool performance car as his first car".
 

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Nice car but as said, you can get a coyote car for the same price.

When my oldest hits driving age though, he'll be in an Evo or WRX, awd DSM, or a Golf R. Something with decent power and AWD so he doesn't go flying off the road into crowds at 17 years old.

I havent seen a 5.0 with those kinds of options in good shape selling for 13k
 

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That V6 is a rare optioned trim level and WILL be worth something one day if it isn't molested.

But, it is something for a collector.
 

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We were all retarded in high school, do you really think giving a high school kid an evo or WRX is a great idea? Hell I remember someone I went to school with had a bolt on SRT4 Neon, he got busted by a state trooper doing well over a hundred on the NJTP. Trooper ended up calling his parents on the side of the highway.

So you think a RWD 300 hp vehicle is safer than an AWD 300hp vehicle?

That makes no sense but I’m interested in hearing why you think that way.




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I do not think handing the keys to a 412hp tail happy car over to a 17 year old is the smartest idea. This car is still 305hp, it will still run door to door with a 05-10 3v GT and it's a lot faster than the SN95/New Edge GT's most of you were driving in high school. Hell a crappy driver in a 99/01 cobra or 03/04 mach would be in trouble.

One other thing to keep in mind? He's 17, I'm sure he isn't making a ton of money in the military being so young, this is still a quick car that can get 30mpg highway all day long. My 16 GT gets 25 at best and about 16 around town.




A WRX/STi won't spin backwards off the road, it'll just understeer off the road instead.

My tuned 17 fusion sport would’ve made my 01 Cobra look silly when it was stock. Cars are just so much faster today even the minivans. My first car was a 93 Taurus SHO. I’m jealous of what the kids get to choose from today.
 

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I also want to mention that even though he is a marine now that also makes things worse in a few ways...If he does get caught acting like a jackass in the car (specifically on base) it will impact his career.

I understand he can still get in trouble with the V6 but I think we can agree it's also less likely than in the v8.

I am going to drive the v6 today and will report back. As others have mentioned, it's pretty much the most badass well optioned v6 you can get...haha. I did notice it has a bassani exhaust on it as well.
 

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So you think a RWD 300 hp vehicle is safer than an AWD 300hp vehicle?

That makes no sense but I’m interested in hearing why you think that way.




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No, in regards to people telling the OP to get his kid a coyote mustang im saying a v6 is more than enough for his sons second car and first "quick". He started his kid out in a civic, not an evo.

Which is an important underlying fact in itself, the OPs son already has some time on the road, whereas the scenario you're proposing would be giving your son a rally homoginization car and letting that be the first thing he gets to drive on his own.


I'm not a parent, I'm just some dude on the internet with apparently a crappy over cautious opinion.

Edit: I also just want to make this clear, I am not trying to call your parenting skills into question, this is just a simple conversation.

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Have you thought about a 3V GT? Or hell, even a nice 2V GT?

Same amount of power roughly, arguably better looks (on the new edge), cheaper price, cheaper insurance and still have at least the sound of a V8.

Id say many might agree they would rather have a nice 2V car than any V6 car....
 

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Have you thought about a 3V GT? Or hell, even a nice 2V GT?

Same amount of power roughly, arguably better looks (on the new edge), cheaper price, cheaper insurance and still have at least the sound of a V8.

Id say many might agree they would rather have a nice 2V car than any V6 car....
I'm probably in the minority here but I'd take any 11+ engine combo over any 2v every day of the week. Then again the only new edge I can tolerate is the Terminator based on it's specialness.
 

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OP - this sounds like a great car for new Marine. You and I both know it will be nicer than most of the vehicles the other Pvt - LCpl’s will be driving but not so much that he’ll draw unwanted attention. The only other thing I would consider is an SUV instead of a Mustang, primarily for cargo space and ability to haul friends around.
 

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Have you thought about a 3V GT? Or hell, even a nice 2V GT?

Same amount of power roughly, arguably better looks (on the new edge), cheaper price, cheaper insurance and still have at least the sound of a V8.

Id say many might agree they would rather have a nice 2V car than any V6 car....

The 2V is probably safer since it's slower than the V6 and has less potential to make power than the V6:D
 

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