Wow, impressive.
10.8@127mph - 4200lbs race weight
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Pretty sure all stock and full size wheels pump gas power it went 10.02
Is there a video?
Not sure, I’ll dig around on the hellcat forums later as now I’m curious.
There’s a long long list of cars I’d buy/have bought before the demon. Numerous rare cars that can run those times with minimal mods and do everything else exceptional with a beautiful interior to boot. I do, however, think it’s a badass car for what it is. Just not for me. For one thing, I can’t get over the tacked on fender flares. Could they not have come up with some kind of aesthetically pleasing result?
12-20 years from now when college kids are buying hellcats for $$$15k, you 7 second performance pushers will be responsible
20 years ago 10’s was move over, today it’s get pulled over slow.
20 years ago 10’s was move over, today it’s get pulled over slow.
No offense, as I really do like your Cobra, but you talk about track times and even what your car is capable of at the strip, but have YOU actually ever ran YOUR COBRA at the track?
Not everyone wants to risk track use, either for breaking parts or breaking their ego.
I however wanted to build my GT500 for street strip brawling with a manual trans, and even though people said it could go faster with an SAE 965rwhp, I drove it to the track and went 10.009@145.
I’m just sayin’, I hear a lot of guys riding Kaneda and many guys bench racing hard on what the GT500 and competitors ‘should’ run, but as usual, very few with personal experience.
Not just singling you out, just a more generalized response to many guys in this thread.
And yes, very telling to me is the guy who buys a Demon but never intends to take it to the track once, ditto GT350R owners.
-J
Amen! x1000
The drag strip (or any racy track for the matter) can absolutely be an ego buster of epic proportions.
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That’s sad that it can be such a detriment for people. I always enjoyed the track with previous cars and even more so with the road course when I jumped over to bikes. What a humbling experience and you quickly learn to throw out all the magazine and bench racer reviews and supposedly times and just ride your ride to have fun.
I think that’s part of a big problem that consumers get so caught up in optimal results which often aren’t indicative of the real world average buyers skill level to achieve with any car or bike for that matter.
I live in an area that has 100k 200k 300k cars, and then 100-200k added to them. And they race them, break them, fix them and repeat.
Every demon I know of gets laughed at, from the guys with more into cars then than most of out homes, to the guys with base model vettes, porsche, ctsv, Camaros, mustang's, bmws Benz, and really anything. The demons are the laughing stock of the performance world
Exactly
Exactly
And still not be faster than a blower only gt, or heads cam vette.. or pretty much anything these days
Demons are nothing special. Name something ground breaking they did? Put a blower on an already produced car? Offered a drag pack? Stop the presses!
Demons are nothing special that a base model cant have for less $ and better performance
Why? Some ford dealers offer Warrantied TT Mustangs.. and can go low 9s fullweight..
Money aside I fail to see where running 9s is slow so we can agree to disagree.
I/we dont consider 131mph stupid fast anymore
Any FI car that runs 10.5/130 full weight can be stripped and modded to run a 9.99, as demons have to do
No bench racing here.
As Demon owners found out, after the fact.
I fail to see how over promising and under delivering is not an issue with an 80k drag car...
And let's not forget, all those 9 sec runs, are with a diff brace, as the diffs are apparently glass. And did you know, according to Dodge, running a diff brace voids the warranty.. sooo.. it's not a 9 sec warrantied car anymore.. kinda changes the whole dynamic of what cars can do what with a warranty now huh.. unless your saying take the brace off before going to the dealer... in which case, opens the flood gates to what constitutes a modified and warrantied car.
Not all of the runs involved a diff brace more then a few were stock on the drag pack full interior and ran anywhere from 9.72-9.90
Most people don’t run that with their modded cars lol get out of here trying to claim that’s not respectable like as if every local car is running around with 1500 hp running 7s on the street nowadays or something.
You’re right I’m sure it would be a laughing stock to someone who buys a 200k car then dumps another 100k into it and that is exactly not the crowd that dodge targeted for this vehicle. As far as over promising, the car delivers, I believe the word tracking you’re looking for is they were overly aggressive with setting expectations as they didn’t leave wiggle room in the cars optimal performance. Then again it’s only people who don’t own a demon like you and I who are sitting here bantering about them. Apparently the owners all love them.
I’ve asked for examples of other stock warrantied cars the run equal for the same price point and you can’t deliver. It’s a niche car and it was a success for dodge even if you don’t like it which is obvious.
OMFG, can you all just get off the Demon's nuts? This is a GT500 thread.
None taken, 11’s and 10’s at 130-143. 10.1@141 comes to mind as my best run on a prior combo years back, but I’ve never had my exact current setup there, the track is closed. Various boost/tune/etc variants. We’re at 5k of altitude, track prep is lacking, and usually someone speed fluid on the track every Street night or test/tune. They shut the track down 6-7 months of the year, and new liter bikes struggle to crack a high 10@130 here. Hellcats run mid to high 12’s at 115+. I have 60ft high 1.5’s but average 1.7’s. My car is manual irs with 400# coil springs and koni oranges. It’s a Street bruiser/mountain fun. Think group b rally. I like those kind of manual/mechanical fun builds.
More tellingly, when I roll run 145mph 9 second buddies with auto’s and drag setups, I keep up fine, sometimes win (if I had my multivitamin that day lol)
I guess we live in different areas then. I have literal hundreds of race friends, and attend every type of straight line race events. I have yet to hear anyone praise a demon. 80k for high 9s and 13x mph in track prep mode, is a fail in our world. Especially since we live with the worlds greatest track prep and -3k DA.
Hell, I just stated earlier the fastest stock demon on the east coast, as far as I can find, was 10.1/131
Then onto the warranty bs again. There are entire posts showing videos of blown riffs. Hell, what was it, 6 at that 1 overhyped track rental alone, all no brace.
"But its warrantied" yea, I get that, but what do you call a car that had to have the same issue serviced 3 times in a year? LEMON. And dont tell me shit breaks in drag racing, because you/they/dodge is also saying this is a warrantied drag car. A purpose built car.. yet they didnt purposefully put a decent diff in there?
So, again, in essence, to have a reliable 80k street legal purpose built 9 sec demon, you have to add a brace, which voids the warranty, which, voids the entire "warrantied 9 sec drag car".
It's like talking in circles. Demon boys are making their own reality.
To run 9s "stock" with no brace, it needs aftermarket tires( not stock) While also, To run 9s on stock tires, it needs a brace ( no warranty).
Male up your mind, cant be both
I just did. And the reason OTHER cars are coming in heavier is vastly different from the Dodges.
The ZR1 and the new 500 are stressing the scales because they've added SERIOUS cooling capcity for hardcore extended track use. Strip off all the coolers and the MASSIVE brakes and rotors, put a "normal" sized wheel and tire on those cars (i.e. forget about turning and braking or track use) and all of a sudden those cars are back in the mid 3k lb range.
The fact that Chevy and Ford are trying to mitigate those additional lbs via lightweight materials and Dodge isn't is part of my overall point. Ford and Chevy are developing NEW and innovative products. The dodge camp is just a bunch of 30 year old technology slapped together with a big, inefficient motor that advertises high HP.
A part of me loves the unapologetic "muscle car" mentality, but Dodge takes that too far. I could get over the fact that they only make 840 CRANK HP on a 6.2 liter blown motor on RACE FUEL, but the rest of the car is a relic. I could get past the car weighing 2.5 tons IF it were a tradeoff for other performance issues (like coolers and massive brakes and the wheels to fit them, etc).
I could also get past all that if Dodge sold the Demon/Hellcat at a much lower price point (aka, you're buying a big fat car that doesn't turn or brake well and has a 30 year old motor in it making pretty sad numbers....but it's dirt cheap).
The fact that it's expensive just makes me laugh
I think you just put into words what's been in my head and couldn't express.
At 50/55k Demon is a helluva buy. 80k? So many other cars out there that do so much more
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