Braum Racing Seats Install Review

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I installed a set of Braum Racing seats in my GT500. I bought their S8 series seats. Their most popular and best looking seats are their Elite line, but I saw a couple videos where the person installing them demonstrated how much slack is in the seat back. I definitely did NOT want a shaky seat. According to Braum, their S8 seats are their stiffest reclining seat and come close to their non-reclining race seats in stiffness. Something that would hold me firmly in place is exactly what I was looking for.

I wanted Recaro, but their aftermarket seats are all fairly unattractive to me. Not to mention they're crazy expensive! These Braum S8 seats aren't the greatest looking ones I've seen, but they're not nearly as bad as I feared. They actually look pretty good. They look nice installed in the car.

Speaking of installed... What a PITA to assemble! It wasn't difficult, per se. It was just confusing since the seats come with zero instructions whatsoever. To make a long story short, it was the handle for the sliders that was giving me the biggest headache. The handles are perfectly flat, and when installed, there's not enough space between the handle and the bottom of the seat to activate the locking mechanisms. I thought maybe they sent me the wrong handles since everything I was seeing online showed contoured handles! Even the stock passenger seat has a contoured handle. After figuring out I needed to bend the handles myself (or use spacers on the seat), I finally got them assembled. Because of the confusion and multiple rounds of assembly/disassembly, the first seat took most of an afternoon to assemble. After I figured out the secret handshake, the second seat took maybe 15 - 20 minutes!

Installing them in the car wasn't a big deal, but it still took 2 - 3 hours because you have to take a few parts off the stock seats and transfer them to the new seats. On the passenger seat, you need to remove the passenger detection bladder, the seatbelt latch, and the wiring harness to install on the new seat. Unbolt the seatbelt latch from the stock seat. You will need to also remove one of the nuts from the anchor to be reused on the bolt when attaching the latch to the new seat. Removing the bladder was unbelievably easy. Just lift up the upholstery on the stock seat so you can pop out the two grommets that hold the bladder in place, and slide the bladder right out. Take care not to get its pigtail snagged on the seat springs. Lifting the seat upholstery was super easy, too. Praise Vehiclese that Ford didn't use hog rings in the upholstery! Its attached with plastic hooks. Just unhook it, and there you go! Installing the bladder on the new seat is even easier. Just slide it between the seat springs and the cushion. Again, making sure not to snag its pigtail. Hook up the wiring harness to the seatbelt sensor and passenger detection bladder, tape off the unused connectors with electrical tape, plug it in, and bolt down the seat.

The driver seat is almost as simple. There is no bladder to remove. However, the wiring harness is a lot bigger with a lot of connectors that will go unused on the new seat. I opted to just remove the loom that I needed from the harness. It's just 3 wires that carry over. I had to cut 2 wires because they were routed in a different direction than the ones I needed. The driver seat only needs the seatbelt sensor connector. The passenger seat needs the seatbelt and passenger detection sensor connectors. Again, tape off any unused connectors with electrical tape. In this case, I only needed to tape off the seat position and airbag sensor on the driver side since all the other sensors remained with the wiring harness on the stock seat. I also taped off the connectors left on the stock seats to protect them from corrosion while being stored. After everything's taped off and connected, bolt the seat down and you're done.

I weighed all the seat assemblies. Half surprisingly, there's very little weight to be saved from the stock Shelby front passenger seat; 44 lbs versus 39.5 lbs. The driver seat is where most of the weight savings came. It was hard to balance the seat on my scale, but it weighs ~60 lbs versus 39.5 for the new seat. So ~25 lbs of weight dropped. That and the lightweight engine mounts more than offset the weight the Watts link added. It should definitely be under 3600 lbs now with a full tank of gas!

I haven't driven the car with them in yet, but from initial sitting in them, I can tell they will definitely need to be broken in. The thigh bolsters dig into me in the exact same spots my GT350R's seat used to. So the several hundred miles of driving it are probably going to be agonizing after about an hour long stint. I did learn a new way of getting out of the seats, though. Just slot my thigh right in the notch between the side bolster and thigh bolster and step right out! I've been climbing out of my R all undignified like I'm trying to escape a giant sea clam all this time! I finally learned how to get out of the seat! LOL

And just some gratuitous shots from when I was trying to capture the way the sunlight was reflecting off my car like crazy. The seats weren't in yet. The cell phone wouldn't capture it the way it looked in person. It was incredible.

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I went for some long drives over the weekend. Much to my surprise, the seats didn't bother me one bit! To the contrary, they were very comfortable. I guess I must really be losing weight! LOL

The seat does a great job of keeping me stabilized in hard corners. So far, I don't have any real complaints about them. If I had to really, really nitpick, it would be that there is a very minor squeak from the seat on sudden hard movements. For now, I'm just attributing that to the seat still wearing in. Another thing to note is that the headrest portion seems too far back. It's probably not all that far back, but I'm used to the stock headrest jutting forward into the back of my head so much that I could lean my head on it, and my head would still be straight up. I have to actually lean my head back to touch the headrest with this seat. I'm sure that makes it easier to wear a helmet, though. The final niggle would be that the seat flexes a little bit on hard acceleration as though it's spring loaded. It's not a huge flex. It's just enough to be noticeable, but not alarming in any way to make me feel like the seat is going to break or is unsafe.

These seats have brought renewed pleasure to driving my GT500. I didn't want to stop driving it over the weekend! With them being so much less bulky than the stock seats, it gives the interior a more open and airy feeling. Outward visibility was good before, yet it's much improved now. When I look over my right shoulder, I can see everything. Not only have they renewed my pleasure with the car, but they've greatly improved my confidence in its handling capabilities. (For those who don't know; with the exception of steering knuckles and spindles and a couple of nuts and bolts that were reused, my GT500's suspension is fully aftermarket.) As I was driving it, I kept being reminded of the F82 M4 I spent the day driving at the BMW M Performance Driving course. Even though it was only a 25 lbs reduction in weight, the car feels an order of magnitude more nimble than it already did. (As mentioned in the OP, my GT500 might be <3600 lbs now.) I think I may have finally caught the dragon I've been chasing the past 4 years! (And now that I have, watch me do something foolish like trade it for a new ZL1 1LE! LOL)

About the airbag lights. The driver airbag light in the instrument panel has been lit for more time than it hasn't since I've owned the car new. So it actually doesn't bother me at this point. The overhead passenger airbag light was on, but, during the daytime, is literally unnoticeable unless you specifically look up there for it. Plus, it's pretty much always on anyway since I usually have something laying on the passenger seat. I'll have to check to see if it stays on when/if my wife goes for a ride with me.
 

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I am happy to read a mostly positive review of the Braum seats. I too have been looking into getting a set of racing seats for my car, and LOVE the look of almost all of the Braums. I have just heard lots of stories on their seats being Chinese eBay seats with their name stitched into them. I've also heard that the seats are essentially made of just plastic, which I just found extremely hard to believe. I have spent a lot of time checking into all the different brands, and Corbeau seems to be a pretty well rounded seat as far as quality/price goes, but they only have 2 or 3 designs that I even care for. I don't like any of the Recaros, and Bride is ridiculously expensive. I'll continue my research before I make a decision, but it will have to be pretty soon. The cloth seats in my 99' are COMPLETELY shot LOL.

Great looking cars as well OP!
 

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Thanks.

I didn't open the seats up, but according to Braum, the seats have tubular steel frames. If they were mostly plastic, they'd be bending and flexing all over the place. I'm not experiencing any sort of cheap feeling from them. (yet) Maybe whoever said that was referring to the plasticy vinyl that they use. That's the main reason why I opted for the cloth seats. Some of the vinyl they use looks cheap as hell.

I looked at Bride seats, too. Yeah, they're crazy expensive. For the price they want, I'd rather step up to the Technocraft T4 carbon fiber seat. Corbeau has a partial carbon fiber seat, but again, at the price, I'd rather step up to a full carbon fiber seat.

I hope these stand the test of time. If not, I probably will go all out and get carbon fiber seats. The Tecnocraft T4 seat is claimed to weigh only 6 lbs, minus the seat bracket and whatnot. That'll be an additional 38 lbs of weight reduction! The problem with with the Technocraft seats is that they don't recline, and I'm not to sure about driving around on non-padded seats. Although, pads are an available option.
 

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Yeah, well don't take my comment to mean that they are all that quality. The FIA compliant (Falcon I believe) is $750 fixed back. I was just saying if they were a company just re-branding Ebay seats they wouldn't go through the effort of making a "real" racing seat that can be used in competition.
 

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Nice review, and those seats do look nice installed. Hopefully long-term you'll be happy with them.
 

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Dont like the seats. But loving the pictures. Gt500 looking good man. Need some moar.
 

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PRE-EDIT: Photobucket is money grabbing now, and the forum software won't just display the pics without you having to click on them. If a mod can get the pics to just display inline with the thread, I'd appreciate it.just installed braum seats in my z06. seats are well made!!
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I installed a set of Braum Racing seats in my GT500. I bought their S8 series seats. Their most popular and best looking seats are their Elite line, but I saw a couple videos where the person installing them demonstrated how much slack is in the seat back. I definitely did NOT want a shaky seat. According to Braum, their S8 seats are their stiffest reclining seat and come close to their non-reclining race seats in stiffness. Something that would hold me firmly in place is exactly what I was looking for.

I wanted Recaro, but their aftermarket seats are all fairly unattractive to me. Not to mention they're crazy expensive! These Braum S8 seats aren't the greatest looking ones I've seen, but they're not nearly as bad as I feared. They actually look pretty good. They look nice installed in the car.

Speaking of installed... What a PITA to assemble! It wasn't difficult, per se. It was just confusing since the seats come with zero instructions whatsoever. To make a long story short, it was the handle for the sliders that was giving me the biggest headache. The handles are perfectly flat, and when installed, there's not enough space between the handle and the bottom of the seat to activate the locking mechanisms. I thought maybe they sent me the wrong handles since everything I was seeing online showed contoured handles! Even the stock passenger seat has a contoured handle. After figuring out I needed to bend the handles myself (or use spacers on the seat), I finally got them assembled. Because of the confusion and multiple rounds of assembly/disassembly, the first seat took most of an afternoon to assemble. After I figured out the secret handshake, the second seat took maybe 15 - 20 minutes!

Installing them in the car wasn't a big deal, but it still took 2 - 3 hours because you have to take a few parts off the stock seats and transfer them to the new seats. On the passenger seat, you need to remove the passenger detection bladder, the seatbelt latch, and the wiring harness to install on the new seat. Unbolt the seatbelt latch from the stock seat. You will need to also remove one of the nuts from the anchor to be reused on the bolt when attaching the latch to the new seat. Removing the bladder was unbelievably easy. Just lift up the upholstery on the stock seat so you can pop out the two grommets that hold the bladder in place, and slide the bladder right out. Take care not to get its pigtail snagged on the seat springs. Lifting the seat upholstery was super easy, too. Praise Vehiclese that Ford didn't use hog rings in the upholstery! Its attached with plastic hooks. Just unhook it, and there you go! Installing the bladder on the new seat is even easier. Just slide it between the seat springs and the cushion. Again, making sure not to snag its pigtail. Hook up the wiring harness to the seatbelt sensor and passenger detection bladder, tape off the unused connectors with electrical tape, plug it in, and bolt down the seat.

The driver seat is almost as simple. There is no bladder to remove. However, the wiring harness is a lot bigger with a lot of connectors that will go unused on the new seat. I opted to just remove the loom that I needed from the harness. It's just 3 wires that carry over. I had to cut 2 wires because they were routed in a different direction than the ones I needed. The driver seat only needs the seatbelt sensor connector. The passenger seat needs the seatbelt and passenger detection sensor connectors. Again, tape off any unused connectors with electrical tape. In this case, I only needed to tape off the seat position and airbag sensor on the driver side since all the other sensors remained with the wiring harness on the stock seat. I also taped off the connectors left on the stock seats to protect them from corrosion while being stored. After everything's taped off and connected, bolt the seat down and you're done.

I weighed all the seat assemblies. Half surprisingly, there's very little weight to be saved from the stock Shelby front passenger seat; 44 lbs versus 39.5 lbs. The driver seat is where most of the weight savings came. It was hard to balance the seat on my scale, but it weighs ~60 lbs versus 39.5 for the new seat. So ~25 lbs of weight dropped. That and the lightweight engine mounts more than offset the weight the Watts link added. It should definitely be under 3600 lbs now with a full tank of gas!

I haven't driven the car with them in yet, but from initial sitting in them, I can tell they will definitely need to be broken in. The thigh bolsters dig into me in the exact same spots my GT350R's seat used to. So the several hundred miles of driving it are probably going to be agonizing after about an hour long stint. I did learn a new way of getting out of the seats, though. Just slot my thigh right in the notch between the side bolster and thigh bolster and step right out! I've been climbing out of my R all undignified like I'm trying to escape a giant sea clam all this time! I finally learned how to get out of the seat! LOL

And just some gratuitous shots from when I was trying to capture the way the sunlight was reflecting off my car like crazy. The seats weren't in yet. The cell phone wouldn't capture it the way it looked in person. It was incredible.

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PRE-EDIT: Photobucket is money grabbing now, and the forum software won't just display the pics without you having to click on them. If a mod can get the pics to just display inline with the thread, I'd appreciate it.


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I installed a set of Braum Racing seats in my GT500. I bought their S8 series seats. Their most popular and best looking seats are their Elite line, but I saw a couple videos where the person installing them demonstrated how much slack is in the seat back. I definitely did NOT want a shaky seat. According to Braum, their S8 seats are their stiffest reclining seat and come close to their non-reclining race seats in stiffness. Something that would hold me firmly in place is exactly what I was looking for.

I wanted Recaro, but their aftermarket seats are all fairly unattractive to me. Not to mention they're crazy expensive! These Braum S8 seats aren't the greatest looking ones I've seen, but they're not nearly as bad as I feared. They actually look pretty good. They look nice installed in the car.

Speaking of installed... What a PITA to assemble! It wasn't difficult, per se. It was just confusing since the seats come with zero instructions whatsoever. To make a long story short, it was the handle for the sliders that was giving me the biggest headache. The handles are perfectly flat, and when installed, there's not enough space between the handle and the bottom of the seat to activate the locking mechanisms. I thought maybe they sent me the wrong handles since everything I was seeing online showed contoured handles! Even the stock passenger seat has a contoured handle. After figuring out I needed to bend the handles myself (or use spacers on the seat), I finally got them assembled. Because of the confusion and multiple rounds of assembly/disassembly, the first seat took most of an afternoon to assemble. After I figured out the secret handshake, the second seat took maybe 15 - 20 minutes!

Installing them in the car wasn't a big deal, but it still took 2 - 3 hours because you have to take a few parts off the stock seats and transfer them to the new seats. On the passenger seat, you need to remove the passenger detection bladder, the seatbelt latch, and the wiring harness to install on the new seat. Unbolt the seatbelt latch from the stock seat. You will need to also remove one of the nuts from the anchor to be reused on the bolt when attaching the latch to the new seat. Removing the bladder was unbelievably easy. Just lift up the upholstery on the stock seat so you can pop out the two grommets that hold the bladder in place, and slide the bladder right out. Take care not to get its pigtail snagged on the seat springs. Lifting the seat upholstery was super easy, too. Praise Vehiclese that Ford didn't use hog rings in the upholstery! Its attached with plastic hooks. Just unhook it, and there you go! Installing the bladder on the new seat is even easier. Just slide it between the seat springs and the cushion. Again, making sure not to snag its pigtail. Hook up the wiring harness to the seatbelt sensor and passenger detection bladder, tape off the unused connectors with electrical tape, plug it in, and bolt down the seat.

The driver seat is almost as simple. There is no bladder to remove. However, the wiring harness is a lot bigger with a lot of connectors that will go unused on the new seat. I opted to just remove the loom that I needed from the harness. It's just 3 wires that carry over. I had to cut 2 wires because they were routed in a different direction than the ones I needed. The driver seat only needs the seatbelt sensor connector. The passenger seat needs the seatbelt and passenger detection sensor connectors. Again, tape off any unused connectors with electrical tape. In this case, I only needed to tape off the seat position and airbag sensor on the driver side since all the other sensors remained with the wiring harness on the stock seat. I also taped off the connectors left on the stock seats to protect them from corrosion while being stored. After everything's taped off and connected, bolt the seat down and you're done.

I weighed all the seat assemblies. Half surprisingly, there's very little weight to be saved from the stock Shelby front passenger seat; 44 lbs versus 39.5 lbs. The driver seat is where most of the weight savings came. It was hard to balance the seat on my scale, but it weighs ~60 lbs versus 39.5 for the new seat. So ~25 lbs of weight dropped. That and the lightweight engine mounts more than offset the weight the Watts link added. It should definitely be under 3600 lbs now with a full tank of gas!

I haven't driven the car with them in yet, but from initial sitting in them, I can tell they will definitely need to be broken in. The thigh bolsters dig into me in the exact same spots my GT350R's seat used to. So the several hundred miles of driving it are probably going to be agonizing after about an hour long stint. I did learn a new way of getting out of the seats, though. Just slot my thigh right in the notch between the side bolster and thigh bolster and step right out! I've been climbing out of my R all undignified like I'm trying to escape a giant sea clam all this time! I finally learned how to get out of the seat! LOL

And just some gratuitous shots from when I was trying to capture the way the sunlight was reflecting off my car like crazy. The seats weren't in yet. The cell phone wouldn't capture it the way it looked in person. It was incredible.

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PRE-EDIT: Photobucket is money grabbing now, and the forum software won't just display the pics without you having to click on them. If a mod can get the pics to just display inline with the thread, I'd appreciate it.


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I installed a set of Braum Racing seats in my GT500. I bought their S8 series seats. Their most popular and best looking seats are their Elite line, but I saw a couple videos where the person installing them demonstrated how much slack is in the seat back. I definitely did NOT want a shaky seat. According to Braum, their S8 seats are their stiffest reclining seat and come close to their non-reclining race seats in stiffness. Something that would hold me firmly in place is exactly what I was looking for.

I wanted Recaro, but their aftermarket seats are all fairly unattractive to me. Not to mention they're crazy expensive! These Braum S8 seats aren't the greatest looking ones I've seen, but they're not nearly as bad as I feared. They actually look pretty good. They look nice installed in the car.

Speaking of installed... What a PITA to assemble! It wasn't difficult, per se. It was just confusing since the seats come with zero instructions whatsoever. To make a long story short, it was the handle for the sliders that was giving me the biggest headache. The handles are perfectly flat, and when installed, there's not enough space between the handle and the bottom of the seat to activate the locking mechanisms. I thought maybe they sent me the wrong handles since everything I was seeing online showed contoured handles! Even the stock passenger seat has a contoured handle. After figuring out I needed to bend the handles myself (or use spacers on the seat), I finally got them assembled. Because of the confusion and multiple rounds of assembly/disassembly, the first seat took most of an afternoon to assemble. After I figured out the secret handshake, the second seat took maybe 15 - 20 minutes!

Installing them in the car wasn't a big deal, but it still took 2 - 3 hours because you have to take a few parts off the stock seats and transfer them to the new seats. On the passenger seat, you need to remove the passenger detection bladder, the seatbelt latch, and the wiring harness to install on the new seat. Unbolt the seatbelt latch from the stock seat. You will need to also remove one of the nuts from the anchor to be reused on the bolt when attaching the latch to the new seat. Removing the bladder was unbelievably easy. Just lift up the upholstery on the stock seat so you can pop out the two grommets that hold the bladder in place, and slide the bladder right out. Take care not to get its pigtail snagged on the seat springs. Lifting the seat upholstery was super easy, too. Praise Vehiclese that Ford didn't use hog rings in the upholstery! Its attached with plastic hooks. Just unhook it, and there you go! Installing the bladder on the new seat is even easier. Just slide it between the seat springs and the cushion. Again, making sure not to snag its pigtail. Hook up the wiring harness to the seatbelt sensor and passenger detection bladder, tape off the unused connectors with electrical tape, plug it in, and bolt down the seat.

The driver seat is almost as simple. There is no bladder to remove. However, the wiring harness is a lot bigger with a lot of connectors that will go unused on the new seat. I opted to just remove the loom that I needed from the harness. It's just 3 wires that carry over. I had to cut 2 wires because they were routed in a different direction than the ones I needed. The driver seat only needs the seatbelt sensor connector. The passenger seat needs the seatbelt and passenger detection sensor connectors. Again, tape off any unused connectors with electrical tape. In this case, I only needed to tape off the seat position and airbag sensor on the driver side since all the other sensors remained with the wiring harness on the stock seat. I also taped off the connectors left on the stock seats to protect them from corrosion while being stored. After everything's taped off and connected, bolt the seat down and you're done.

I weighed all the seat assemblies. Half surprisingly, there's very little weight to be saved from the stock Shelby front passenger seat; 44 lbs versus 39.5 lbs. The driver seat is where most of the weight savings came. It was hard to balance the seat on my scale, but it weighs ~60 lbs versus 39.5 for the new seat. So ~25 lbs of weight dropped. That and the lightweight engine mounts more than offset the weight the Watts link added. It should definitely be under 3600 lbs now with a full tank of gas!

I haven't driven the car with them in yet, but from initial sitting in them, I can tell they will definitely need to be broken in. The thigh bolsters dig into me in the exact same spots my GT350R's seat used to. So the several hundred miles of driving it are probably going to be agonizing after about an hour long stint. I did learn a new way of getting out of the seats, though. Just slot my thigh right in the notch between the side bolster and thigh bolster and step right out! I've been climbing out of my R all undignified like I'm trying to escape a giant sea clam all this time! I finally learned how to get out of the seat! LOL

And just some gratuitous shots from when I was trying to capture the way the sunlight was reflecting off my car like crazy. The seats weren't in yet. The cell phone wouldn't capture it the way it looked in person. It was incredible.

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Yeah, well don't take my comment to mean that they are all that quality. The FIA compliant (Falcon I believe) is $750 fixed back. I was just saying if they were a company just re-branding Ebay seats they wouldn't go through the effort of making a "real" racing seat that can be used in competition.

Sorry I meant that's great. That's what I'm looking for.
 

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I am trying to decide between stock 03-04 seats, Cobra Daytonas, or the TMI Viper Pro Jrs in my Cobra.


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They offer some FIA compliant options so can't all be bad.

You used the same logic that I did. I saw that they have FIA compliant/certified fixed back seats, so their other stuff might be derivative of those. The way I interpreted their description of the S8 Series seat, it is derivative of the FIA seat. So it can't be all that bad. Only time will tell.

The seats' price is on par with stuff from Corbeau and Cobra. The brackets are extra. Worst case, I'm "only" out $600 if they don't wear well, but I think I'll still get more than $600 worth of enjoyment out of them. If I have to buy more seats, at least I already have the brackets! ;)


How do you like your Elite seats? Is there slack in the seat back? How is the thigh support?
 
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I installed a set of Braum Racing seats in my GT500. I bought their S8 series seats. Their most popular and best looking seats are their Elite line, but I saw a couple videos where the person installing them demonstrated how much slack is in the seat back. I definitely did NOT want a shaky seat. According to Braum, their S8 seats are their stiffest reclining seat and come close to their non-reclining race seats in stiffness. Something that would hold me firmly in place is exactly what I was looking for.

I wanted Recaro, but their aftermarket seats are all fairly unattractive to me. Not to mention they're crazy expensive! These Braum S8 seats aren't the greatest looking ones I've seen, but they're not nearly as bad as I feared. They actually look pretty good. They look nice installed in the car.

Speaking of installed... What a PITA to assemble! It wasn't difficult, per se. It was just confusing since the seats come with zero instructions whatsoever. To make a long story short, it was the handle for the sliders that was giving me the biggest headache. The handles are perfectly flat, and when installed, there's not enough space between the handle and the bottom of the seat to activate the locking mechanisms. I thought maybe they sent me the wrong handles since everything I was seeing online showed contoured handles! Even the stock passenger seat has a contoured handle. After figuring out I needed to bend the handles myself (or use spacers on the seat), I finally got them assembled. Because of the confusion and multiple rounds of assembly/disassembly, the first seat took most of an afternoon to assemble. After I figured out the secret handshake, the second seat took maybe 15 - 20 minutes!

Installing them in the car wasn't a big deal, but it still took 2 - 3 hours because you have to take a few parts off the stock seats and transfer them to the new seats. On the passenger seat, you need to remove the passenger detection bladder, the seatbelt latch, and the wiring harness to install on the new seat. Unbolt the seatbelt latch from the stock seat. You will need to also remove one of the nuts from the anchor to be reused on the bolt when attaching the latch to the new seat. Removing the bladder was unbelievably easy. Just lift up the upholstery on the stock seat so you can pop out the two grommets that hold the bladder in place, and slide the bladder right out. Take care not to get its pigtail snagged on the seat springs. Lifting the seat upholstery was super easy, too. Praise Vehiclese that Ford didn't use hog rings in the upholstery! Its attached with plastic hooks. Just unhook it, and there you go! Installing the bladder on the new seat is even easier. Just slide it between the seat springs and the cushion. Again, making sure not to snag its pigtail. Hook up the wiring harness to the seatbelt sensor and passenger detection bladder, tape off the unused connectors with electrical tape, plug it in, and bolt down the seat.

The driver seat is almost as simple. There is no bladder to remove. However, the wiring harness is a lot bigger with a lot of connectors that will go unused on the new seat. I opted to just remove the loom that I needed from the harness. It's just 3 wires that carry over. I had to cut 2 wires because they were routed in a different direction than the ones I needed. The driver seat only needs the seatbelt sensor connector. The passenger seat needs the seatbelt and passenger detection sensor connectors. Again, tape off any unused connectors with electrical tape. In this case, I only needed to tape off the seat position and airbag sensor on the driver side since all the other sensors remained with the wiring harness on the stock seat. I also taped off the connectors left on the stock seats to protect them from corrosion while being stored. After everything's taped off and connected, bolt the seat down and you're done.

I weighed all the seat assemblies. Half surprisingly, there's very little weight to be saved from the stock Shelby front passenger seat; 44 lbs versus 39.5 lbs. The driver seat is where most of the weight savings came. It was hard to balance the seat on my scale, but it weighs ~60 lbs versus 39.5 for the new seat. So ~25 lbs of weight dropped. That and the lightweight engine mounts more than offset the weight the Watts link added. It should definitely be under 3600 lbs now with a full tank of gas!

I haven't driven the car with them in yet, but from initial sitting in them, I can tell they will definitely need to be broken in. The thigh bolsters dig into me in the exact same spots my GT350R's seat used to. So the several hundred miles of driving it are probably going to be agonizing after about an hour long stint. I did learn a new way of getting out of the seats, though. Just slot my thigh right in the notch between the side bolster and thigh bolster and step right out! I've been climbing out of my R all undignified like I'm trying to escape a giant sea clam all this time! I finally learned how to get out of the seat! LOL

And just some gratuitous shots from when I was trying to capture the way the sunlight was reflecting off my car like crazy. The seats weren't in yet. The cell phone wouldn't capture it the way it looked in person. It was incredible.

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Seats look nice. I too changed the seats in my 03 Cobra and agree with how it changes the whole feel of the car for the better. Mine also like yours came with no instructions, and what a pita it was. Multiple installation/removal and much tweaking to get everything to fit. At the time I felt like is this really worth the headache? But after it was all said and done, I love them!
 

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Ahhhh well then I'll just keep stacking my pennies for the "cobra " misano ( think that's correct spelling lol

You better start stacking at least quarters cause the Misanos are not cheap! They are super nice though. Took a bit of work to get them to fit in my 03 Cobra, but love the car so much more now!
 

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