School me on polishing pads

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Can you link your video? I like learning different techniques and trying different products. I use buff n shine pads or their equivalent from autoality.com
 
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I'll do one better. I will start a new thread and post those videos in it. Here ya' go.

Guys, this dude does know what he's talking about. I learned alot of what I know from his videos. Junkman, you just went about it the wrong way. It's hard for anyone on a forum to take your word as the gospel when you are a newbie to said forum. 35 posts just doesn't buy you a lotta credit. I admit though you know your shit. Welcome to our forums brother!

On your new thread for novices, well done. You may want to add a link to my original sticky in this section on the exact same topic. It would no doubt add to an already beneficial thread.

OP...hint on your door handles....just use a terry towel with compound and aggressively rub. It will remove nearly all the fingernail scratches with just a little effort and eliminate banging the machine against the door handle. Don't ask how I know :)
 

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Well color me jaded, last I checked folks like Mike Phillips DON'T prescribe to the one pad for a fleet style... And No, I don't need to "watch" your free video's (which generate REVENUE for you) to see this magic... I will stick with the PROVEN advice from the Pro's at Autogeek, Autopia, ect... You know guy's like Mike Phillips, Kevin Brown... :rollseyes
 

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Well color me jaded, last I checked folks like Mike Phillips DON'T prescribe to the one pad for a fleet style... And No, I don't need to "watch" your free video's (which generate REVENUE for you) to see this magic... I will stick with the PROVEN advice from the Pro's at Autogeek, Autopia, ect... You know guy's like Mike Phillips, Kevin Brown... :rollseyes

Bullitt...this guy IS a pro. You are barking up the wrong tree. You don't have to buy into his methods but if you think he is clueless, you are simply wrong.
 
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Bullitt...this guy IS a pro. You are barking up the wrong tree. You don't have to buy into his methods but if you think he is clueless, you are simply wrong.

I'm not wrong to call out bad advise for a newb to detailing. I have been detailing since 2001, have a garage full of product as well. But to come out and tell a newcomer to paint correction that "one" pad is fine for a correction is wrong. It is SAFER to learn using multiple pads so you can gauge how much product/pressure/passes you need for the level of correction. Some of these new cars have extremely thin clear coat, and don't leave much room for error. Show me where guy's like Mike Phillips would recommend to a new detailer that using one pad for an ENTIRE car is a good prudent technique... I'll be waiting...

You are all missing the point that what works for me, you and Junkman is not the same as what a new person to detailing needs to know so they don't damage their car. Technique cannot overcome bad product selection.
 

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I think the purpose of the forum is to read an OPs post and try to place those circumstances he's in to be able to come up with a response. It's not one answer fits all levels of ability

A - from all appearances he's a beginner
B - it was a xmas gift he's had 30 days
C - it's unrealistic to think he's going to master true skillset in watching a video for a few minutes

This is the equivalent of a brand new golfer watching a few pro instructor videos, buying some equipment, and then the video instructor says "you only NEED ONE BALL GAWDAWMIT...have faith" ........ :lol:

best to keep a extra pads around as you learn a new hobby and work up to the ability of junkman :coolman:
 

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I was a noob three years ago. I used AG and Junkman videos to get to where I am now. To discredit him because he has a different way of doing it than you feel is correct is wrong. I agree there are a few ways of doing it and we are all here to help, noob or not.
 

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I made the sticky to guide people "new" to paint correction. Maybe OP can find that and learn the "multipad" technique.
 

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I'm not wrong to call out bad advise for a newb to detailing.

Bad advice (correct spelling)? You are really showing just how little you know about detailing techniques. My 19,000+ You Tube subscribers would also like to disagree with you. Do you have any threads on this forum where you present a tutorial that shows what you actually know? How about a video with NO EDITING like I do? Please, send me a link so that I too can be enlightened.

Companies are bombarding me with products while car clubs and individuals across America and abroad are flying me in to put on detailing clinics all year long. You just don't get that level of attention unless you know what you are doing,

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The magazine "C5/C6 Registry" did an article about my approach to detailing and sharing it with the masses. As you can see, this is NOT my first rodeo. ;)

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For the OP, here's a vehicle that I repaired using ONE orange pad for the compounding stage and ONE white pad for the polishing stage. Two pads total and they lasted throughout the entire paint correction process. I still have them both and they are in excellent condition. They were pads from Buff n' Shine. Here's what I started with:

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And here's the final product:

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And since you can Photoshop pictures to perfection, here a untouched video of that same car. By the way, there is not ONE DROP of wax on that car. It was a trick question.

[video=youtube;0XGwQDVbOgo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XGwQDVbOgo[/video]


You have to be suspect when someone trying to give you advice has no proof that they actually have a clue as to what they are talking about.
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I have been detailing since 2001, have a garage full of product as well.

Wow, I was detailing my rides 25 years before you even knew what detailing was. And you actually posted that to prove what, that you haven't had a clue for 15 years? Sorry, if that was supposed to impress me (or anyone for that matter), you missed the mark by a LONG shot.
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But to come out and tell a newcomer to paint correction that "one" pad is fine for a correction is wrong.

Funny how noobs all over the world, that's right... WORLD have used my "wrong" advice to achieve paint perfection in short order from watching my videos and learning my technique. But hey, I guess all those people are wrong too.
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It is SAFER to learn using multiple pads so you can gauge how much product/pressure/passes you need for the level of correction. Some of these new cars have extremely thin clear coat, and don't leave much room for error.

So now you're worried about the OP "burning" through his clear coat with a Harbor Freight polisher that is not as powerful as the PC-7424XP? Again, you have a lot to learn kid. Watch and get informed. OP, you're gonna love this:

[video=youtube;2XAqpOe9Zt4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XAqpOe9Zt4[/video]

[video=youtube;y7A5BCCb7Gg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7A5BCCb7Gg[/video]


And here's the kicker OP, that polisher you are using is so safe, I show CHILDREN how to use it and let them buff on MY cars with it!

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Showing my own little girl how to do it!

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So much for his myth about burning through your clear coat with that polisher that you have. PROOF. I love to backup my statements with PROOF. Who you gonna believe, some random guy on the Internet or your lying eyes? :D


Show me where guy's like Mike Phillips would recommend to a new detailer that using one pad for an ENTIRE car is a good prudent technique... I'll be waiting...

If you really knew what you are doing, you wouldn't have to quote guys like Mike Phillips. You see, YOU have to use guys like that to substantiate your argument. Look at who I'm quoting. That's right, MYSELF. I don't have to quote anyone else because MY work speaks for itself.

You are all missing the point that what works for me, you and Junkman is not the same as what a new person to detailing needs to know so they don't damage their car. Technique cannot overcome bad product selection.

Technique trumps product 24/7/365. I prove that on my DVD's and many You Tube videos. But you wouldn't know that because you're obviously still learning. There are multiple roads that lead to Shineville and I have been down a bunch of them. But hey, after doing this as long as I have, you're bound to learn a thing or two. Maybe I will still be kicking when you reach my level of experience. Then you can come back to this thread and realize just how far you have come.
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This might be the best own-age that Ill see all year!! Bullitt just quit...

Junkman: you rock!!! lol
 

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Junkman spent countless hours of his Time for FREE and posted gosh knows how many in depth How to Videos , which he sells for a whole whopping 6 bucks . His experience and expertise is what creates revenue . IMHO there are 2 guys who have quality informative videos , Junkman and Mike Phillips , both are tops in the business . The hours JM spent editing alone are no doubt a crazy amount .

IMHO one the best videos JM has *(arguably the Best video on this subject that can be found) should be watch FIRST before correcting your car and removing clear coat. Not sure what they are titled but he covers how to wash , use a CA duster ,WW and dry so you do not instill swirls . IMHO one should get his/her wash/dry technique down first so when you do learn how to remove imperfections you're not just re-instilling them the very next wash .

For me , I found the pads Junkman recommends Hex Logic , and Lake Country Flat Pads are a far better choice for beginners then the Hydrotech pads . His videos have so much information you need to watch them at least , minimum of 2 times each .

You watch and follow his videos you'll have your car looking better then it ever has Period .

Junkman , I got started on those CCW Aluminum Rims , coming along nicely , tried post a pic but it was HUGE IDK why but ah well .... ;) Good day all ,

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... IMHO one should get his/her wash/dry technique down first so when you do learn how to remove imperfections you're not just re-instilling them the very next wash.

THIS is dead on.
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I like to use the example of money management. If you have a man who is always broke and can't pay his bills even though he makes 6-figures a year, you don't loan him a million dollars and expect anything to change. That man needs to obtain money management skills so that he can stop the vicious cycle of being broke all the time. What you have stated is exactly along those same lines and is what I preach all the time. You should never waste the time it takes to fix your paint until you can figure out what you are doing to jack up your paint in the first place. If you follow that advice, the time you end up spending to fix your paint will be time well spent. You can take that to the bank.

Good post.
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You still deflect from the original question of the one pad for a fleet of cars remark. Again I will wait for evidence from Pro's like Mike Phillips, Kevin Brown ect... validating your claim of the one "magic" pad technique... FYI, youtube subscribers doesn't really validate your expertise either... I am not scared to call out folks giving bad/selective info. You have been detailing since Jesus walked the earth, that's nice. You get paid to detail cars for a living, wow never seen that before... FYI I dont need to spam the forum with my "video's" to share common, easily validated info either... Thank goodness forum's like Autogeek/Autopia exist to help folks and keep the BS at bay...
 

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