New 2015 F-150

[george.arnold]

Like the Panoramic roof....but why no more 6.2?

They probably didn't sell enough of them. The Raptor came standard with it, but other trims didn't. I'd suspect that most of those people who bought the lower trim levels ordered the EB instead of the 6.2.

I do still think the Raptor will get the 6.2.

 

[DSG2003Mach1]

They probably didn't sell enough of them. The Raptor came standard with it, but other trims didn't. I'd suspect that most of those people who bought the lower trim levels ordered the EB instead of the 6.2.

I do still think the Raptor will get the 6.2.

the 6.2 wasnt even an option on many trim levels

 

[Jroc]

the 6.2 wasnt even an option on many trim levels

Not until 2013 anyway.

 

[ON D BIT]

The 6.2 puts out roughly the same power/torque as the 5.0(400/400), why do you need both?

I would love to see a 4 valve dohc 6.2 for the next raptor pushing 500hp. Can you imagine the next raptor pushing more ponies and with 500+ lbs less weight? Wicked!:beer:

 

[Jroc]

The 6.2 puts out roughly the same power/torque as the 5.0(400/400), why do you need both?

I would love to see a 4 valve dohc 6.2 for the next raptor pushing 500hp. Can you imagine the next raptor pushing more ponies and with 500+ lbs less weight? Wicked!:beer:

Not much of a truck person are you?

A Coyote is a great motor in a Mustang, but not so much so in a F150. It's more of a high RPM based motor instead of a bottom dweller. It likes to spin, but doesn't make great lowend torque production like your typical truck motor. People can hate on the old 5.4 all they want but it make 80% of it's torque @ 2000 RPM which is great for towing and hauling. The new 5.0 on the other hand does not.

The current F150 5.0 is rated at 51 HP and 54 lb-ft less than the 6.2. The Modulars needed 4v heads to be efficient do to their small bore size where a 6.2 can have very efficient 2v heads do to it's much larger bore which allows for much bigger valves. The 6.2L has so much potential in it that I wish Ford would just unlock from the factory and they could have an amazing V8. They build it like they did the Modulars of yesteryear. Low compression, iron block, etc. I saw something about how GM was bragging about their new 6.2L motor beating the Fords 6.2L HP/lb-ft, but it barely does and the new GM 6.2 has a 11.0:1 compression ratio, and DI where the Ford 6.2 is rocking a low 9.8:1 CR and no DI.

If Ford would show the 6.2 some love they would have an amazing v8. It also has a much more idea bore/stroke than a Modular. A whole lot more much more idea.

 

[ON D BIT]

Not much of a truck person are you?

A Coyote is a great motor in a Mustang, but not so much so in a F150. It's more of a high RPM based motor instead of a bottom dweller. It likes to spin, but doesn't make great lowend torque production like your typical truck motor. People can hate on the old 5.4 all they want but it make 80% of it's torque @ 2000 RPM which is great for towing and hauling. The new 5.0 on the other hand does not.

The current F150 5.0 is rated at 51 HP and 54 lb-ft less than the 6.2. The Modulars new 4v to have efficient heads do to their small bore size where a 6.2 can have very efficient 2v heads do to it's much larger bore which allows for much bigger valves. The 6.2L has so much potential in it that I wish Ford would just unlock from the factory and they could have an amazing V8. They build it like they did the Modulars of yesteryear. Low compression, iron block, etc. I saw something about how GM was bragging about their new 6.2L motor beating the Fords 6.2L HP/lb-ft, but it barely does and the new GM 6.2 has a 11.0:1 compression ratio, and DI where the Ford 6.2 is rocking a low 9.8:1 CR and no DI.

If Ford would show the 6.2 some love they would have an amazing v8. It also has a much more idea bore/stroke than a Modular. A whole lot more much more idea.

I do know a little. I know that the 5.0 in the truck is tuned much different than that of the mustang. I did not realize it was that much difference between the 150 5.0 and the 150 6.2 though. What was the performance difference between the two in the truck, mpg and towing?

I do remember an engineer saying heads are so big on the 6.2 going to 4 valves per cylinder would not be an issue. There was also freaky tests on the 6.2 with the intro of the raptor of the n/a 6.2 putting out close to 700 hp. Ill see if i can find that info.
I also know that ford has a nasty habbit of changing frame body one year and then changing drivetrains the next! All eggs not in one basket so to speak.

 

[germeezy1]

It's cool that it's weight puts it in the mid size truck class. What was 5,000 lbs is now 4,300 which is slightly heavier than a Dodge Challenger or right on with a Toyota Tacoma. Just awesome. I can't afford a new F-150 though. Base four door is $33,000 I mean holy cow.

Keep in mind that Ford said between 500-700 lbs depending on trim, and that the Ford trucks are already heavier than some of the competition.

Not much of a truck person are you?

A Coyote is a great motor in a Mustang, but not so much so in a F150. It's more of a high RPM based motor instead of a bottom dweller. It likes to spin, but doesn't make great lowend torque production like your typical truck motor. People can hate on the old 5.4 all they want but it make 80% of it's torque @ 2000 RPM which is great for towing and hauling. The new 5.0 on the other hand does not.

The current F150 5.0 is rated at 51 HP and 54 lb-ft less than the 6.2. The Modulars needed 4v heads to be efficient do to their small bore size where a 6.2 can have very efficient 2v heads do to it's much larger bore which allows for much bigger valves. The 6.2L has so much potential in it that I wish Ford would just unlock from the factory and they could have an amazing V8. They build it like they did the Modulars of yesteryear. Low compression, iron block, etc. I saw something about how GM was bragging about their new 6.2L motor beating the Fords 6.2L HP/lb-ft, but it barely does and the new GM 6.2 has a 11.0:1 compression ratio, and DI where the Ford 6.2 is rocking a low 9.8:1 CR and no DI.

If Ford would show the 6.2 some love they would have an amazing v8. It also has a much more idea bore/stroke than a Modular. A whole lot more much more idea.

You are correct about the 5.0, and its inability at this stage to produce anything close to the power band of the 6.2. Rumor is that the 3.5EB could possibly not see a power increase, and as a top level engine I think the 3.5EB could use more HP. With that being said the 6.2 becoming a Lincoln , and SVT only engine could be a possibility. One thing to keep in mind is that GM's 6.2 not only beats Fords 6.2 for power, and torque it also has significantly better fuel economy.

 

[ZYBORG]

Love the new f150. Very exciting new look that has a lot of similarities to the Atlas. With all the new options and 700 less lbs. is sure to be top dog amongst half ton pick ups.

I need to dump my lowly "old" truck now... Lol

 

[AAG]

Not much of a truck person are you?

A Coyote is a great motor in a Mustang, but not so much so in a F150. It's more of a high RPM based motor instead of a bottom dweller. It likes to spin, but doesn't make great lowend torque production like your typical truck motor. People can hate on the old 5.4 all they want but it make 80% of it's torque @ 2000 RPM which is great for towing and hauling. The new 5.0 on the other hand does not.

I disagree. My 5.0 screw with only 3.31 gears moves effortless down low and up top. The old 5.4s before it in the f150 were a joke compared to it unless it had a factory blower.

 

[me32]

I disagree. My 5.0 screw with only 3.31 gears moves effortless down low and up top. The old 5.4s before it in the f150 were a joke compared to it unless it had a factory blower.

Your kidding right? I have a 03 5.4 2v and have driven a 5.0 truck. Sure the 5.0 is a nice passenger motor and great mpg but has no where near the low end tq the 5.4 has. i ve also driven a raptor 6.2 now that is a real truck motor power at all times.

 

[AAG]

Your kidding right? I have a 03 5.4 2v and have driven a 5.0 truck. Sure the 5.0 is a nice passenger motor and great mpg but has no where near the low end tq the 5.4 has. i ve also driven a raptor 6.2 now that is a real truck motor power at all times.

The 5.0 puts out more torque than the 5.4, sure maybe at a little higher RPM but it doesnt matter due to the 6R80 and very short 1st gear.

My pops had an 01 5.4 so I know about the "low end torque" you speak of, but it wouldve gotten destroyed by the new 5.0. Now my bro's old lightning was a different story....That thing moved pretty good even for a stock truck. But like I stated the 5.4 is a dog without boost.

The Raptor may have the power but isnt very fast due to the extra weight. Now the 6.2 Harley and Limited F150s move very nice.

 

[ScreamingFast]

I love it......so far gotta see it in person.

 

[Jroc]

You are correct about the 5.0, and its inability at this stage to produce anything close to the power band of the 6.2. Rumor is that the 3.5EB could possibly not see a power increase, and as a top level engine I think the 3.5EB could use more HP. With that being said the 6.2 becoming a Lincoln , and SVT only engine could be a possibility. One thing to keep in mind is that GM's 6.2 not only beats Fords 6.2 for power, and torque it also has significantly better fuel economy.

Your right, but the thing is Ford doesn't show their 6.2L any real love. It actual shines extremely well for what it is. It's a very basic motor compared to the other modern motors in the Ford lineup. Other than VVT it's not really any more advanced than the old 2v Modulars. I mean it use 2 spark plug a cylinder, but if Ford would invest some money to develop the Boss 6.2L farther they would have a hell of a v8. It needs to be modernized a little bit IMO and I hate saying that as it's Fords newest v8 design. I have no doubt that if Ford wanted to give it more power and torque they would have no problem what-so-ever coxing more out of it, and I feel sure that they could improve it MPG as well if they would just go at it they same way they have with the other motors in their lineup.

Basically Ford started developing the 6.2 for be the new SD replacement for the old 5.4/6.8 Modulars, and then the CAFE standard started tightening, and Ford wanted to drop the motor, but they had invested so much in it at that point that they decided to finish it, but it seems very low priority for them now. I hope they don't drop it from their lineup in the next few years because IMO if they wanted to and invested the money in developing it then the Boss 6.2L could be the best performance v8 Ford has ever made. I'm telling y'all that motor has huge potential locked in it just waiting for the factory to help bring it out. :shrug:

 

[germeezy1]

Your right, but the thing is Ford doesn't show their 6.2L any real love. It actual shines extremely well for what it is. It's a very basic motor compared to the other modern motors in the Ford lineup. Other than VVT it's not really any more advanced than the old 2v Modulars. I mean it use 2 spark plug a cylinder, but if Ford would invest some money to develop the Boss 6.2L farther they would have a hell of a v8. It needs to be modernized a little bit IMO and I hate saying that as it's Fords newest v8 design. I have no doubt that if Ford wanted to give it more power and torque they would have no problem what-so-ever coxing more out of it, and I feel sure that they could improve it MPG as well if they would just go at it they same way they have with the other motors in their lineup.

Basically Ford started developing the 6.2 for be the new SD replacement for the old 5.4/6.8 Modulars, and then the CAFE standard started tightening, and Ford wanted to drop the motor, but they had invested so much in it at that point that they decided to finish it, but it seems very low priority for them now. I hope they don't drop it from their lineup in the next few years because IMO if they wanted to and invested the money in developing it then the Boss 6.2L could be the best performance v8 Ford has ever made. I'm telling y'all that motor has huge potential locked in it just waiting for the factory to help bring it out. :shrug:

You won't find a bigger advocate of the 6.2, and I hope that it remains a HD, SVT, Lincoln motor instead of Ford doing away with it totally. Ford does have a 5.0 S/C used in Australia they could bring under the Ecoboost family if they add direct injection which could replace the 6.2 however. I am also well aware of the 6.2 based 427 development motor that proved to be very quick on the drag strip. I believe that the 6.2 with direct injection could easily break 450 hp, and with improved gas mileage. I spent a weekend with an Ecoboost truck , and as much as I liked it the 3.5 EB is not a 6.2, and does not respond like a 6.2.

 

[younggun04]

Lol at some of you. Just like the 2010 mustang and 2015. You guys will say it looks ugly and in 2-3 years you will have a thread on here about buying one and how much you love it.

You see one picture on the internet and all of a sudden it's the ugliest truck made.

Looks great IMO guess its time to retire my 2010 with 200k and get one of these.

 

[me32]

The 5.0 puts out more torque than the 5.4, sure maybe at a little higher RPM but it doesnt matter due to the 6R80 and very short 1st gear.

My pops had an 01 5.4 so I know about the "low end torque" you speak of, but it wouldve gotten destroyed by the new 5.0. Now my bro's old lightning was a different story....That thing moved pretty good even for a stock truck. But like I stated the 5.4 is a dog without boost.

The Raptor may have the power but isnt very fast due to the extra weight. Now the 6.2 Harley and Limited F150s move very nice.

also the 09-10 5.4 also came with the 6R80 which the 5.4 feels the most powerful of all the years in that truck. I will agree the 5.0 is a faster truck over the 5.4 but the 5.4 is better at towing.

 

[Jroc]

also the 09-10 5.4 also came with the 6R80 which the 5.4 feels the most powerful of all the years in that truck. I will agree the 5.0 is a faster truck over the 5.4 but the 5.4 is better at towing.

This.

I'm not saying a 5.4 F150 is faster than a 5.0 F150, but it's powerband is more ideal for truck duties than a 5.0 as is the 6.2's is also better for truck duties.

 

[zPipes]

This is a truck,

That new thing being called a truck is a hacked up SUV.

 

[zPipes]

shit srry large picture lol


fixed

 

[My94GT]

looks damn close to me

like others have said, i am just a bit sad there is no mention of the 6.2L motor. i have that motor in my 2011 platinum and love it.