Actually I was pointing out the dramatic drop in prices in such a short time:dw:
I just dont understand how the best car that ford has ever put out, could de-value so quickly:??: I mean come on, these 5.0's outrun every car on the road:lol1:
Out ran a 14 5.0 in my old as dirt, obsolete Terminator
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Actually I was pointing out the dramatic drop in prices in such a short time:dw:
I just dont understand how the best car that ford has ever put out, could de-value so quickly:??: I mean come on, these 5.0's outrun every car on the road:lol1:
KBB says a low mile Terminator is still worth almost $31k. Not my figures. Can't you buy a new 5.0 for that?
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We are talking about a 10 year old car here. I wonder what a 10K mile 5.0 will be worth in 10 years? Maybe that is why they are so Butt Hurt?
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We are talking about a 10 year old car here. I wonder what a 10K mile 5.0 will be worth in 10 years? Maybe that is why they are so Butt Hurt?
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Are you saying you think a 5.0 is going to be worth more money in the future?
ME? HELLL no. These kids on here that think they have discovered Horsepower do.
My vote is the Terminator is worth as much or MORE than that in another 10 years and the precious 5.0 is worth what any 10 year old Mustang is. Maybe 8-10K.
Whether it'll be a collector's item or not, its still up in the air. Personally, I can see why a lot of people go for the 5.0. Its a newer car, better interior, handles a lot better, makes easy power and its very comparable to it. Only people who opt for an 03/04 Cobra are the ones who own one or always wanted one (dream car).
Again. Never had a run in with you so I don't know you. I have no beef with you whatsoever Your post is my entire point pretty much. There is no question the Terminator will be worth more because it is the original BADASS. The new 5.0 guys are faster, they have a better car for sure. The engine is ENTIRELY better in every aspect. GOD DAMN they should! It's 10+ years newer. Why brag about that. We weren't bitches when the Terminator came out. We didn't pick on the 205HP 5.0. These kids are largely rejects because they quit making the catfish so the losers had no place else to go.
Actually I will say if a 10 year old Mustang is still worth $31K, it is already a collectors item. Name one other one that was ALREADY WORTH it's price when new at 10 years old?
There are 1 or 2 but not many. an R model here or there. That's about it.
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You're confusing me with 01BlueSnake :lol1: That was my first quote of you
Its still too early, the Shelby is also starting to back up slowly. I will say once its closer to 20 years and it hasn't decline, I will call it a collectors car :thumbsup:
tEXASSTANG4585, yOU SOUND LIKE AN UNINFORMED OR ignorant tool!
tERMINATORS were not $40K try low $30's for coupes and a little more for the converts. The bang for the buck on a Supercharged, forged Internal motor cant be beat. Youre always gonna get more bang for the buck with a induction car vs. normally aspirated. Don't get me wrong, I like to 5.0 Coyote Motored cars a lot but there was a lot of other reasons why I bought a used Terminator. I paid $17K for mine and am close to 700HP with a blower swap. Quit hating on each other as there are plenty of other competitors out there to concentrate on. Heck, I'm still trying to find a terminator car with a modified IRS pulling 1.0G to do an article on. If you know of any, let me know.
tERMINATORS were not $40K try low $30's for coupes and a little more for the converts. The bang for the buck on a Supercharged, forged Internal motor cant be beat. Youre always gonna get more bang for the buck with a induction car vs. normally aspirated. Don't get me wrong, I like to 5.0 Coyote Motored cars a lot but there was a lot of other reasons why I bought a used Terminator. I paid $17K for mine and am close to 700HP with a blower swap. Quit hating on each other as there are plenty of other competitors out there to concentrate on. Heck, I'm still trying to find a terminator car with a modified IRS pulling 1.0G to do an article on. If you know of any, let me know.
The thread is confusing by itself, then we have backward users names to add to it hahaha
HAHAHAHA......how about you guys make an original user name, LOL.
Not trying to argue with you. Just my opinion. The Shelby will NEVER be anything close to collectible because Ford tried so hard (and it worked) to sell it as some limited production collectible when all it was was just a Mustang Cobra. They stuck "Shelby" on the side of it and these old farts went wild. Carroll Shelby had as much to do with the Shelby GT, GT500, GT350 as your penis had to do with the screwing of middle class America.
They rode his ass around in some press photos and photoshopped out the stick holding his hand up giving the thumbs up and people think he had input on the GT500. It's embarrassing frankly.
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If you will look up how well they hold their value, and the amount of them produced each year of production, you will see that you are wrong on your points.
You could be right. Let's say you are. Based on your post. You HAVE looked up how well they hold value.
So, that being said, the oldest one is a 2007. What is a 2007 worth then? That is only 6 years old. Terminators are TWICE that. Post a link to what the 2007 Shelbys are worth (noting what they cost new and that obviously matters) and let's compare that to a 10 year old Terminator. Easy enough.
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What do you guys think the cobra and the 5.0 are a good race stock for stock. Mod for mod who goes quicker/makes more power.
with 2k for basic mods
with 5k for bolt ons
with 10k for power adder swap
What do you guys think or see power wise
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that's very true except literally nothing on the car can handle 900-1000 rwhp reliably.
That base head unit won't flow enough need a ysi $3k
Going to need at least an 8 rib upgrade $700
to fuel that much power on E85 going to need ID2000's $1900
That 6r80 is going to need a new shaft and cluthes $2500
getting rid of 2 pc driveshaft with loop $900
really it needs a 9'' but lets say you go cheap and reinforce the 8.8 $2500
upgrading the cooling to cooling system to cool 1000 rwhp $1k
theres dozens more little things that add up this is just off the top of my head.
not to mention suspension and braking needs serious mods to handle that power and that's assuming your rebuilding your engine yourself and going cheap and reusing your stock intake manifold, heads, cam and i don't know why anyone on a big power build would. realistically to do the job right 100% it's probably 25-30k on top of a base mustang. still not bad for 900-1000 rwhp but it's not as easy as it seems.
yes the new 5.0 is going to be monsterous once they get DI. Unfortunatly many on here will see the value the of their coyote plummet like a 3 valve GT. probably pick one up for 10k in 5-6 years gut it and turn it into a drag car.
with 2k for basic mods
with 5k for bolt ons
with 10k for power adder swap
What do you guys think or see power wise
pot stirred
op::burnout:that's very true except literally nothing on the car can handle 900-1000 rwhp reliably.
That base head unit won't flow enough need a ysi $3k
Going to need at least an 8 rib upgrade $700
to fuel that much power on E85 going to need ID2000's $1900
That 6r80 is going to need a new shaft and cluthes $2500
getting rid of 2 pc driveshaft with loop $900
really it needs a 9'' but lets say you go cheap and reinforce the 8.8 $2500
upgrading the cooling to cooling system to cool 1000 rwhp $1k
theres dozens more little things that add up this is just off the top of my head.
not to mention suspension and braking needs serious mods to handle that power and that's assuming your rebuilding your engine yourself and going cheap and reusing your stock intake manifold, heads, cam and i don't know why anyone on a big power build would. realistically to do the job right 100% it's probably 25-30k on top of a base mustang. still not bad for 900-1000 rwhp but it's not as easy as it seems.
yes the new 5.0 is going to be monsterous once they get DI. Unfortunatly many on here will see the value the of their coyote plummet like a 3 valve GT. probably pick one up for 10k in 5-6 years gut it and turn it into a drag car.
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Trying to be really fair to you. There are a few years difference as far as inflation goes and you are in a fog and believe the Shelby is holding value which couldn't be further from the truth.
Let's just do percentage of retained value vs. original MSRP? Is that fair? Doesn't take into account what someone actually paid. That is a HUGE advantage to a Shelby owner because those morons paid over sticker for just a Mustang Cobra.
You know that is fair because a lot of the Shelby morons paid $10K over sticker for a Cobra just because it said Shelby on the side.
Let's just do percentage of retained value vs. original MSRP? Is that fair? Doesn't take into account what someone actually paid. That is a HUGE advantage to a Shelby owner because those morons paid over sticker for just a Mustang Cobra.
You know that is fair because a lot of the Shelby morons paid $10K over sticker for a Cobra just because it said Shelby on the side.
like most limited model sports cars shelby's will depriciate to about 50% msrp and then plateau for low lileage examples. The 03/04 cobra held value much better and seemed to flatline around 66% for low mileage examples. GT's usually don't stay low mileage but they usually flatline at 20-30% msrp for decent mileage. I expect 13-14 GT500's to hold value like the 03/04.
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Nobody knows at this point. I certainly don't know what makes you think a GT500 is "limited" in YOUR words. They made 5,600 2004 Terminator and almost 11,000 2007 GT500s. Nothing limited about that. Anyway, as previously said, no way to know who is right at this point. I will keep my money right where it is. You go out and get you a GT500 and we'll see I guess.
I am not comparing the 500 to the Cobra value wise... I was talking about comparing to the value retention vs. the 5.0.
As an example though, only 4834, 2012 GT500's were produced. This is what I meant by limited production.
Huh?
Cobras were not 40K bucks 10 yrs ago. Not even close at any dealerships in the Carolina's. The closest Coupe was my Mystichrome at $39K even out the door.
The 04 Cobras sold between the 30-35K range new all day. What would 8K in mods do on a 30K same price for the Cobra?
I'll hang up and listen....
Cobras were not 40K bucks 10 yrs ago. Not even close at any dealerships in the Carolina's. The closest Coupe was my Mystichrome at $39K even out the door.
The 04 Cobras sold between the 30-35K range new all day. What would 8K in mods do on a 30K same price for the Cobra?
I'll hang up and listen....
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