Beefcake who? JPC just goes 8.16!!! - Live Coverage From NMRA Finals @ Bowling Green

[JUIC3D]

We took a bunch of videos and pics, some GoPro from my slow car, etc
Still about 7 hours from home, will sift through it later

Can't wait! :banana:

Also, I'm uninformed--details on your car?

 

[Bud]

We took a bunch of videos and pics, some GoPro from my slow car, etc
Still about 7 hours from home, will sift through it later

You may have beat me first round but we are winning the race back to Colorado... only 5 hours left for us. oke:

 

[slagburn]

Can't wait! :banana:

Also, I'm uninformed--details on your car?

I drove (rather am driving-not home yet) my car 2400 miles to run in the event. I changed blower pulley, fuel, tune and tires at the track. Ended up running in the 5.0 shootout just because that's what the other CO car that made the trip did. Managed to run a new best of [email protected] when the blower belt stayed on.
Didn't really fit in the Shootout, but oh well.

 

[Dave_6]

VERY impressive IMO!

 

[90goldtsiawd]

I drove (rather am driving-not home yet) my car 2400 miles to run in the event. I changed blower pulley, fuel, tune and tires at the track. Ended up running in the 5.0 shootout just because that's what the other CO car that made the trip did. Managed to run a new best of [email protected] when the blower belt stayed on.
Didn't really fit in the Shootout, but oh well.

That is ****in impressive!!!

 

[beefcake]

So i'm guessing you guys are switching to the glide mainly because of the tbrake? are your 60s going to get any better? 1.3s seem already pretty nasty?

a few reasons, weight, r/t, the brake is a big deal,

Maybe he needs to go to a bigger blower head unit then and drop the nitrous. Single power adder> Two power adder's.

I wonder what was going on with beef's tune issues, obviously Evo's car was hauling ass until they blew there motor.

I think it's a combo of things, the new cams we put in have a pretty big lift, biggest lift I've ever seen on a modular engine. I think foot braking out of the hole, it just has no steam. And it's going really rich.

Hopefully the glide coming out at 4k or so fixes that.

Without the nitrous, we went 163 In Norwalk, with the same 1.76' 60'. That was 2900 ft of air.

I think we will go 8.3's to 8.2's without the spray once the glide is in.

Well yes and no. There's been constant bragging of blowers beating up on turbos for quite a while now. And it's been tried to be made as if it was because it was a blower was better, and "turbo can;t keep up." Now that a turbo car comes out sorted and ready to play the only two blowers that can keep up both need to run nitrous. Either to keep inlets down from a lack of intercooling or the units just can't support the power. Does that mean they are slower because of it? No. Does it take away from their argument of which is better? Juuuuuuust a bit. I said turbos would take over. Until an off the shelf blower beats JPC's numbers or better on boost alone that argument is dead. We won't get into "torque boosters" than run turbo parts. Or as we like to call them, the "I wish I bought a turbo mod." Sorry couldn't help that one. Had me on an Affliction shirt on LOL :lol: op:

A turbo isn't "better", a turbo will make more power on the same boost as a s/c. We all know that. It's a matter of the combination, etc..

Hines laid Urist out again this weekend and took the championship. In that class, by the rules, the s/c was better this year.

As far as an "off the shelf blower", what does that have to do with what Justin is running on his car. I don't know all the details, but I don't believe it's a standard 76mm, it doesn't have the standard tubing on the standard kits.

Comparing Justin's car to an off the shelf Paxton, is like comparing my car to Justin's off the shelf kit. It's far from the same thing.

Put the standard turbo kit, on an auto car, and lets see what it does. It took a glide on the car to let the car finally e.t. The car without a race trans never saw an 8 second e.t. I don't know if it even know where in the 9's It made it. That's not taking anything away from the car, it's hauling the mail now, and very impressive, and i'm happy to see Justin get some rewards from his hard work.

My argument has never been that turbo's don't make power. My argument has been,, on these cars, for the average guy, for under 5k you can have a great setup.

 

[JUIC3D]

I drove (rather am driving-not home yet) my car 2400 miles to run in the event. I changed blower pulley, fuel, tune and tires at the track. Ended up running in the 5.0 shootout just because that's what the other CO car that made the trip did. Managed to run a new best of [email protected] when the blower belt stayed on.
Didn't really fit in the Shootout, but oh well.

Outstanding! Cheers sir :beer: Can't wait for the vids

 

[Brandon Alsept]

How much Power is the car making to trap 170mph...and is it still 11 to 1 compression.......might need to think about my built at this point

Just guessing here but for a car weighing I think 3450lbs and to go 170mph I would guess around 1400 horse.

Great Job by Justin and Eric and Aaron on raising the bar for everyone else to shot for. That thing is a bad bitch that is for sure.

 

[dirtyd88]

Did someone ask for a 170mph pass?

I did. :rolling:


That's damn impressive guys! Very proud to say that y'all have tuned my car! Now I just need to get that relog to Kevin to make sure everything is good with the timing and such from 3 weeks ago.

 

[beefcake]

Just guessing here but for a car weighing I think 3450lbs and to go 170mph I would guess around 1400 horse.

Great Job by Justin and Eric and Aaron on raising the bar for everyone else to shot for. That thing is a bad bitch that is for sure.

that should be right on par, we are making about 1020 rwhp without the spray through the auto, which is eating up quite a bit, and that's at 3575

 

[Ultrakla$$ic]

I did. :rolling:


That's damn impressive guys! Very proud to say that y'all have tuned my car! Now I just need to get that relog to Kevin to make sure everything is good with the timing and such from 3 weeks ago.

So your ready to go 170mph now!!!!oke:

 

[Brandon Alsept]

that should be right on par, we are making about 1020 rwhp without the spray through the auto, which is eating up quite a bit, and that's at 3575

Well we happen to have this box sitting here that may free up some power oke: LOL

 

[Deespeed99]

Ive kept fairly quiet but when will you finally give up the Centri S/C is on the same level as a Turbo. Its not and never will be. This is why you have so many haters in this thread that were happy to see you go down by a turbo car more then when evo did it.

A turbo isn't "better", a turbo will make more power on the same boost as a s/c. We all know that. It's a matter of the combination, etc..

If its making more power and torque on the same boost level that means its better.

As far as an "off the shelf blower", what does that have to do with what Justin is running on his car. I don't know all the details, but I don't believe it's a standard 76mm, it doesn't have the standard tubing on the standard kits.

Neither does your kit...so argument is pointless.

Comparing Justin's car to an off the shelf Paxton, is like comparing my car to Justin's off the shelf kit. It's far from the same thing.

No one is comparing justins car to an off the shelf. They are comparing off the self paxtons to off the shelf turbos kits. Cost wise the paxton is better but cost is it. Overall the turbo kits are better. Thats not an opinion thats a fact.

Put the standard turbo kit, on an auto car, and lets see what it does.

Al davis who is running a standard turbo kit has ran faster (last i heard) then any other paxton running the same mods as him and same boost levels.

My argument has never been that turbo's don't make power. My argument has been,, on these cars, for the average guy, for under 5k you can have a great setup.

In closing if you would be less arrogant and cut throat and more honest and upfront it would go much further then simply being greddy. I agree 110% for your average guy on a budget a paxton is hard to beat but it is NOT better then a turbo kit. Like someone else said it all comes down to preference and what you are willing to spend.

 

[dirtyd88]

So your ready to go 170mph now!!!!oke:

I've already been 145...LOL

Only had to shut it down because I ran out of road.

 

[beefcake]

Ive kept fairly quiet but when will you finally give up the Centri S/C is on the same level as a Turbo. Its not and never will be. This is why you have so many haters in this thread that were happy to see you go down by a turbo car more then when evo did it.

In closing if you would be less arrogant and cut throat and more honest and upfront it would go much further then simply being greddy. I agree 110% for your average guy on a budget a paxton is hard to beat but it is NOT better then a turbo kit. Like someone else said it all comes down to preference and what you are willing to spend.

Yes, i'm real worried about the same 4 or 5 people that repost the same hate over and over and over....

Now, you say to be honest, and i'm not sure what you mean.

What exactly is "better", better is in the eye of the beholder. A turbo isn't necessarily better. A turbo is more efficient and will make more hp with the same boost level. I believe I've already said that.

That doesn't make it a "better" option for someone. The best option for someone is something that will fit their budget, make the power they want it to, and make them grin ear to ear.

The average guy isn't going to spend $$ on a built engine. Any of the power adders for these cars will make enough hp to blow the engine. So, in my "opnion", the best option is the Paxton kit. I will never waiver from that.

Hell, I have a sponsorship offer to put a turbo kit on the car. I will be looking at that option for the coyote modified class for this year, because it's an option. But, for the average guy, on these cars. The Paxton will always be king IMO.

 

[D.T.R]

Yes, i'm real worried about the same 4 or 5 people that repost the same hate over and over and over....

Now, you say to be honest, and i'm not sure what you mean.

What exactly is "better", better is in the eye of the beholder. A turbo isn't necessarily better. A turbo is more efficient and will make more hp with the same boost level. I believe I've already said that.

That doesn't make it a "better" option for someone. The best option for someone is something that will fit their budget, make the power they want it to, and make them grin ear to ear.

The average guy isn't going to spend $$ on a built engine. Any of the power adders for these cars will make enough hp to blow the engine. So, in my "opnion", the best option is the Paxton kit. I will never waiver from that.

Hell, I have a sponsorship offer to put a turbo kit on the car. I will be looking at that option for the coyote modified class for this year, because it's an option. But, for the average guy, on these cars. The Paxton will always be king IMO.

In my opinion, if we are all about going fast on a budget, nitrous runs better than a centri on these cars. I would go nitrous before centri, but that's a personal opinion of course.

 

[beefcake]

In my opinion, if we are all about going fast on a budget, nitrous runs better than a centri on these cars. I would go nitrous before centri, but that's a personal opinion of course.

for just part time, the nitrous is a great option

 

[Deespeed99]

Yes, i'm real worried about the same 4 or 5 people that repost the same hate over and over and over....

It's a lot more then 4-5 people on a forum but I can see what you mean about that...

Now, you say to be honest, and i'm not sure what you mean.

Being honest is telling someone the truth once you hear their needs rather then what you want to sell. I can tell you between Revolution Automotive, AED, JPC and CPR they all have told me upfront honest information that hasn't always lead to a sale for them but because of their honesty I will always remember them. That and Adam does a hell of a job on my car LOL!

What exactly is "better", better is in the eye of the beholder. A turbo isn't necessarily better. A turbo is more efficient and will make more hp with the same boost level. I believe I've already said that.

That means it's better! Stop answering this like a politician LOL! You should run for governor!

That doesn't make it a "better" option for someone. The best option for someone is something that will fit their budget, make the power they want it to, and make them grin ear to ear.

And telling someone something is more cheap doesn't make it a better option either. Want to ask me how I know? Hellion Single enough said! It was the "cheaper option" once i got it I wasn't happy. You can't say that everyone on a budget should just go with the cheapest option...

The average guy isn't going to spend $$ on a built engine. Any of the power adders for these cars will make enough hp to blow the engine. So, in my "opnion", the best option is the Paxton kit. I will never waiver from that.

No one said you have to waiver from your preference but stop trying to mis-lead people into thinking that they can go just as fast for less because they can't and people will buy 'cheaper' paxton kits thinking they can go fast but will end up buying this and that which will ultimately throw them over their budget.

Hell, I have a sponsorship offer to put a turbo kit on the car. I will be looking at that option for the coyote modified class for this year, because it's an option. But, for the average guy, on these cars. The Paxton will always be king IMO.

The day you put a turbo on one of your cars I'll have a heart attack! :lol:

 

[Deespeed99]

In my opinion, if we are all about going fast on a budget, nitrous runs better than a centri on these cars. I would go nitrous before centri, but that's a personal opinion of course.

Bingo! Cost wise you can't beat nitrous!

 

[beefcake]

The day you put a turbo on one of your cars I'll have a heart attack! :lol:

People confuse my love for the Paxton's on this platform as a hate for turbo, that's not the case.