The JLT vs. Stock Airbox with AED tune results and discussion thread

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MikeLTDLX

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This is what I got out of 8 pages of reading.

JLT CAI
11.34@122 60' - 1.62 DA 1,880
11.35@122 60' - 1.64 DA 1,671
***REMEMBER SUBTRACT 122-3= 119 for these corrected runs

CORRECTED JLT

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Stock CAI
11.49@119 60' - 1.74 <-------I loaded the car up too much on the converter and spun terribly DA 1,208
11.31@119 60' - 1.61 DA 1,208

CORRECTED STOCK (ignoring spinning run)

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If your goal is to run as quick as you can with your car then a 11.09 is quicker than a 11.16!! At the end of the day I don't want to get outrun by .069 by another car just because I wanted to run the stock airbox!

An interesting and valid way to look at it.

surprised this isnt in smackdown yet

I am surprised it hasn't been cleaned up by the mods, but it does not belong in Smackdown. I am going to add more times to this thread. I am not done testing.

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An interesting and valid way to look at it.



I am surprised it hasn't been cleaned up by the mods, but it does not belong in Smackdown. I am going to add more times to this thread. I am not done testing.

Mike
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The correct numbers are:

JLT corrected: 11.097 @ 125.165
Stock CAI Corrected: 11.166 @ 124.469

Difference of: .069 in ET and .696 MPH

AluminatorSnake decided to round the MPH and subtract instead of add the 3MPH....

There are 3 more test results to be posted including your next round.
 

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I had a perfect outing to test the JLT against the stock box this weekend. Three passes, all with 1.7 60 foot times and all between 11.9 and 11.94. Went to install the stock box, left the screws for the MAF at home.

Doh!

I will be out again, weather permitting, next Wed. and will try again. I think I have the car dialed in now.

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I had a perfect outing to test the JLT against the stock box this weekend. Three passes, all with 1.7 60 foot times and all between 11.9 and 11.94. Went to install the stock box, left the screws for the MAF at home.

Doh!

I will be out again, weather permitting, next Wed. and will try again. I think I have the car dialed in now.

Mike

Sounds good.
 

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If your goal is to run as quick as you can with your car then a 11.09 is quicker than a 11.16!! At the end of the day I don't want to get outrun by .069 by another car just because I wanted to run the stock airbox
Well put, :beer:

So far every single person who has posted results have gone faster WITH the JLT, not without it, PERIOD.
I don't care if it's .069, .10, .01 or .5, 1 or 1 MPH, they all went faster, even some guy at the Texas mile went fastest WITH the JLT.

If going the fastest you can with minimal mods is the goal, it's up to you to decide where to stop and call it "minimal mods". To most all bolt ons are minimal mods, but if you don't think $300 is worth spending, don't buy it.

No matter how much it's tested and no matter how much you think "your" runs are consistant, there will be something to blame a bad run on.

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The price of the intake is a bit high for what it is, then, Im not sure what Shaun would charge to tune your car to get it right with the JLT, I know hes done hours of work with Mike. If parts and tune will cost $500+, not sure if that is worth that last extra.
 

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Might not...
Might be...

People have been tuning them on the 2011 for years now, shouldn't cost $200 for a tune for an intake.
 

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Might not...
Might be...

People have been tuning them on the 2011 for years now, shouldn't cost $200 for a tune for an intake.

It will cost $200 for Shaun't tune, and $300 for the intake. The primary reason to get Shaun's tune is not to run the intake, but that is a nice side benefit.

I know I ran an 11.90 at 116.5 in the blazing swamp heat of South Louisiana with the JLT. It is too bad I left the stock MAF screws at home (and too bad that the two screw types do not interchange, Jay) and I could not verify that the JLT helped me get that 11.90. I will say this, if I had been able to run the box and I had lost time, let's say enough to put me back into the 12's, then the JLT would be 100% worth $300 to me. It would be 100% worth $500 to me and to others if it was the difference between 12's and 11's.

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Just wondering how much Shaun will charge to change the tune(once you have his tune) to one that supports the jlt. I know Shaun has put a ton of work into it(as well as mike), hopefully that work could apply to all of us that have an aed tune and want a jlt
 

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Just wondering how much Shaun will charge to change the tune(once you have his tune) to one that supports the jlt. I know Shaun has put a ton of work into it(as well as mike), hopefully that work could apply to all of us that have an aed tune and want a jlt

ZERO, once you have a tune form what i understood is you can do whatever and it shouldnt cost anything for revisions
 

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Just wondering how much Shaun will charge to change the tune(once you have his tune) to one that supports the jlt. I know Shaun has put a ton of work into it(as well as mike), hopefully that work could apply to all of us that have an aed tune and want a jlt

Shaun does not charge you when you make hardware changes.

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even some guy at the Texas mile went fastest WITH the JLT.

Why do you insist on twisting things into what you want them to be? I was very clear about this, in fact I even stated you would try something like this. There was a 1.2 MPH spread amongst the tested runs. Yes, the JLT was on there for the fastest pass, and it was also on there for the slowest pass. What you're doing is no different than if I were to only say "some guy at the Texas mile went slower WITH the JLT". That's dishonest, and I'm not going to do that, why are you doing it?

I'll have some more info on your intake soon, I'm looking into something that Shaun previously mentioned about it, and this particular thing affects automatic cars which is something he was not dealing with at the time. I want to be certain about this, so I've gotten access to a 2nd one of your intakes so that I can confirm this is not isolated to just the one.
 

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Jesus Christ, I'm so sold on him!!!! Tuner comes Wednesday. But I'm hitting the track with stock tune.

What you ought to do is get the AED tune finalized. Then, reflash it to stock for the track. Make a couple baseline runs, load up the AED and run it. I told you that you can borrow my wheels while we are there if you want. Shit, get a set of rear wheels and I will probably have my M&Hs sitting around if you want to mount them and use them. I should be on the new Goodyears.

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Try not to let this stuff upset you.

Your fastest run was WITH the JLT
WBT's fastest run was WITH the JLT
Mike's fastest run was WITH the JLT


I guess by the law of averages, the more you test the chances are higher you'll get the results you want, but it should be that hard to prove a product doesn't work. So far it has each time.

Inconsistancy will always be the answer to side which ever way you want it to.
Keep testing, it's good for all of us.

Just don't take it personal when I say a fact like the guy at the Texas Mile's fastest run was WITH a JLT, because it's a fact, period. ;)
 

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Why do you insist on twisting things into what you want them to be? I was very clear about this, in fact I even stated you would try something like this. There was a 1.2 MPH spread amongst the tested runs. Yes, the JLT was on there for the fastest pass, and it was also on there for the slowest pass. What you're doing is no different than if I were to only say "some guy at the Texas mile went slower WITH the JLT". That's dishonest, and I'm not going to do that, why are you doing it?

I'll have some more info on your intake soon, I'm looking into something that Shaun previously mentioned about it, and this particular thing affects automatic cars which is something he was not dealing with at the time. I want to be certain about this, so I've gotten access to a 2nd one of your intakes so that I can confirm this is not isolated to just the one.
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well i sure hope i never hear anyone say that the ZL1 is a low 12/high 11 second car without mentioning that it went 13.5 as well then...

:lol:what a joke!
 

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What you ought to do is get the AED tune finalized. Then, reflash it to stock for the track. Make a couple baseline runs, load up the AED and run it. I told you that you can borrow my wheels while we are there if you want. Shit, get a set of rear wheels and I will probably have my M&Hs sitting around if you want to mount them and use them. I should be on the new Goodyears.

Mike

I would, but I got some bills to pay:bored:
Unless I sell the flowmasters and just run the stock ones....
 
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