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Iran jubilant about Katrina

WASHINGTON – Iran, which has experimented with missile detonations that can create nuclear electromagnetic pulse attacks capable of crippling U.S. electrical grids and computer technology, is taking notice of the devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards conclude the deadly storm has exposed America's strategic vulnerabilities, according to reports today on the Ansa-e Hezbollah website.

"The mismanagement and the mishandling of the acute psychological problems brought about by Hurricane Katrina clearly showed that others can, at any given time, create a devastated war zone in any part of the U.S.," said Brigadier General Masoud Jazayeri, the official spokesman of the Revolutionary Guard.

The Revolutionary Guards' spokesman said the U.S.' inability to end the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan showed the "weakness of America's defense and state departments, as well as its intelligence and security apparatus."

"If the U.S. attacks Iran, each of America's states will face a crisis the size of Katrina," he said, referring to the massive hurricane which hit the southern coast of the United States. "The smallest mistake by America in this regard will result in every single state in that country turning into a disaster zone."

The Iranian war planners believe the U.S. can be defeated in a confrontation with Iran.

"How could the White House, which is impotent in the face of a storm and a natural disaster, enter a military conflict with the powerful Islamic Republic of Iran, particularly with the precious experience that we gained in the eight-year war with Iraq?" said Jazayeri.

The hurricane shows that "contrary to public perception, the strength of America's leadership is like a balloon, which can easily burst."

"Precise information from inside America shows a lack of coordination among military, security, and political agencies in that country and brings to light the fact that others can cause many times the amount of damage compared to the blows they may receive," he said.

Jazayeri predicted that under the right circusmtances the U.S. could be made to "disintegrate into smaller independent states" – adding this was "feasible from a scientific, logical, and political point of view."

He also called attention to the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, saying the response by the White House was weak.

"Don't forget one thing about that day," he said. "The U.S. president and all the American leaders ran away and hid themselves."

Last April, WorldNetDaily and Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin first reported Iran not only was covertly developing nuclear weapons, it was testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the world's lone superpower, according to U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists and western missile industry experts.

The radical Shiite regime conducted successful tests to determine if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in high-altitude flight.

Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than preparation for the deployment of electromagnetic pulse weapons – even one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S. back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.

Iran will have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.

In March, Congress heard testimony about the use of such weapons and the threat they pose from rogue regimes.

Iran surprised intelligence analysts by describing the mid-flight detonations of missiles fired from ships on the Caspian Sea as "successful" tests. Even primitive Scud missiles could be used for this purpose. And top U.S. intelligence officials reminded members of Congress that there is a glut of these missiles on the world market. They are currently being bought and sold for about $100,000 each.

Detonated at a height of 60 to 500 kilometers above the continental U.S., one nuclear warhead could cripple the country – knocking out electrical power and circuit boards and rendering the U.S. domestic communications impotent.

While Iran still insists officially it is only developing nuclear power for peaceful civilian purposes, the mid-flight detonation missile tests have persuaded U.S. military planners and intelligence agencies that Tehran can only be planning such an attack, which depends on the availability of at least one nuclear warhead.

The Revolutionary Guards could only be thinking in terms of nuclear or electromagnetic pulse attacks on the U.S. in their thinking about creating havoc of the kind caused by Katrina.

In March, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security chaired by Sen. John Kyl, held a hearing on the electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, threat.

"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its enemies – terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon, detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the continental United States, for months if not years."

The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He served as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.

Graham told G2B he could think of no other reason for Iran to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the planning of an EMP-style attack.

"EMP offers a bigger bang for the buck," he said. He also suggested such an attack makes a U.S. nuclear response against a suspected enemy less likely than would the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major U.S. city.

A 2004 report by the commission found "several potential adversaries have or can acquire the capability to attack the United States with a high-altitude nuclear weapons-generated electromagnetic pulse. A determined adversary can achieve an EMP attack capability without having a high level of sophistication."

"EMP is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at risk of catastrophic consequences," the report said. "EMP will cover the wide geographic region within line of sight to the nuclear weapon. It has the capability to produce significant damage to critical infrastructures and thus to the very fabric of U.S. society, as well as to the ability of the United States and Western nations to project influence and military power."

The major impact of EMP weapons is on electronics, "so pervasive in all aspects of our society and military, coupled through critical infrastructures," explained the report.

"Their effects on systems and infrastructures dependent on electricity and electronics could be sufficiently ruinous as to qualify as catastrophic to the nation," Lowell Wood, acting chairman of the commission, told members of Congress.

The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our military forces."

"Briefly, a single nuclear weapon exploded at high altitude above the United States will interact with the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere and magnetic field to produce an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) radiation down to the Earth and additionally create electrical currents in the Earth," said the report. "EMP effects are both direct and indirect. The former are due to electrical systems, and the latter arise from the damage that 'shocked' – upset, damaged and destroyed – electronics controls then inflict on the systems in which they are embedded. The indirect effects can be even more severe than the direct effects."

The EMP threat is not a new one considered by U.S. defense planners. The Soviet Union had experimented with the idea as a kind of super-weapon against the U.S.

"What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats are difficult to deter – they can be terrorist groups that have no state identity, have only one or a few weapons and are motivated to attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety," explains the commission report. "Rogue states, such as North Korea and Iran, may also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United States and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter."

Graham describes the potential "cascading effect" of an EMP attack. If electrical power is knocked out and circuit boards fried, telecommunications are disrupted, energy deliveries are impeded, the financial system breaks down, food, water and gasoline become scarce.

As Kyl put it: "Few if any people would die right away. But the loss of power would have a cascading effect on all aspects of U.S. society. Communication would be largely impossible. Lack of refrigeration would leave food rotting in warehouses, exacerbated by a lack of transportation as those vehicles still working simply ran out of gas (which is pumped with electricity). The inability to sanitize and distribute water would quickly threaten public health, not to mention the safety of anyone in the path of the inevitable fires, which would rage unchecked. And as we have seen in areas of natural and other disasters, such circumstances often result in a fairly rapid breakdown of social order."

"American society has grown so dependent on computer and other electrical systems that we have created our own Achilles' heel of vulnerability, ironically much greater than those of other, less developed nations," the senator wrote. "When deprived of power, we are in many ways helpless, as the New York City blackout made clear. In that case, power was restored quickly because adjacent areas could provide help. But a large-scale burnout caused by a broad EMP attack would create a much more difficult situation. Not only would there be nobody nearby to help, it could take years to replace destroyed equipment."

The commission said hardening key infrastructure systems and procuring vital backup equipment such as transformers is both feasible and – compared with the threat – relatively inexpensive.

"But it will take leadership by the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Department, and other federal agencies, along with support from Congress, all of which have yet to materialize," wrote Kyl, so far the only elected official blowing the whistle this alarming development.

Kyl concluded in his report: "The Sept. 11 commission report stated that our biggest failure was one of 'imagination.' No one imagined that terrorists would do what they did on Sept. 11. Today few Americans can conceive of the possibility that terrorists could bring our society to its knees by destroying everything we rely on that runs on electricity. But this time we've been warned, and we'd better be prepared to respond.

"But this new threat, this is far more than just "let's be nice to the mean men and they will be nice to us" unfortunately. Though our mainstream press tries very hard to paint it as such. "If we stop being such bad guys, they would all love us and leave us alone" lol <sigh>. Truth is, there is a global push now to begin the process of ultimately declaring an islamic state for the world, the so called Calipahate. Even the recognized leaders of countries like Iran have openly stated this goal (along with the destruction of Israel of course). Funny how we don't ever see that sort of thing (or the above article for example) on the evening news with Connie Chung. Seems pretty newsworthyto me... Anyway, anything/one not converted in the end will have to be either dead or seriously subjugated, "dhimmi", in their view. There is a long'ish term plan in progress for all this. Scheduled completion is by ~ 2020. Supposedly we are well into phase 2 now, "Opening Eyes". And about to enter phase 3 in ~ 2007, "Arising and Standing Up". The west needs to wake up, asap...

"The Fourth Phase Between 2010 and 2013, Hussein writes that al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments."

"The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order."

"The Sixth Phase Hussein believes that from 2016 onwards there will a period of "total confrontation." As soon as the caliphate has been declared the "Islamic army" it will instigate the "fight between the believers and the non-believers" which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden."

"The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as "definitive victory." Hussein writes that in the terrorists' eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn't last longer than two years."
 

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Iran = :bored: I could care less about their sabre rattling. If they think even with 100 nukes or EMP's or whatever they could do anything but gaurantee the complete and total elimination of their political and ethnic existence, they are out of their minds. Iran is not a huge area. The U.S could literally cover every inch of that country in the primary blast zone of a nuclear warhead.

You just really have to ask that question...is even 20 million American deaths worth erasing our entire existence? You try and plunge us into the proverbial darkness, and we'll turn you into glass. Even though we'll have to wait a few hundred years to find out what's going on in there...
 
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This just in...Tehran, a city of 12 million people, was just blown off the map by US nuclear statigecal submarines...film at 11:00.

If they want to play rough...we can play rough.
 

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This just in...Tehran, a city of 12 million people, was just blown off the map by US nuclear statigecal submarines...film at 11:00.

If they want to play rough...we can play rough.

Werd. People always freak out about possible threats from other governments. They fail to realize that m.a.d kept a far greater power in the Soviet Union from trying shit for decades. That's not to say some rogue government wouldn't someday attack the U.S and cause untold numbers of deaths, but they have to know we would visit existence ending destruction on them. If self-preservation is an instinct at all, they'd assess how much it's worth to them to kill some americans.

It's not like were talking groundwar here. We're talking a few launch codes, authorizations, and then setting the world back 100,000 years...
 
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I think it is time many many people start reading the Bible and finding out why us christians believe we are in the end times. All i got to say about Islam succeeding in what they want to do is this. I will not deny Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior. Also Romans 12:19-20 "Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord. On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

Nahum 1:1-3 The burden of Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite. God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies. The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

If there was ever a time to place your faith in Christ and follow after the true Lord God it is now.


But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
 

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Mach170 said:
I think it is time many many people start reading the Bible and finding out why us christians believe we are in the end times. All i got to say about Islam succeeding in what they want to do is this. I will not deny Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior. Also Romans 12:19-20 "Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord. On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

Nahum 1:1-3 The burden of Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite. God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies. The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

If there was ever a time to place your faith in Christ and follow after the true Lord God it is now.


But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


Good. Does this mean the good Lord will eradicate the Muslim nut cakes of the world or do we have to do it our selves?
 

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You know christian doomsayers were saying the absolute same things when rome fell, when the year 1000 came around, after the tsunami, and pretty much any other big disaster happens, they are out in force informing everyone the world is going to end.

can't cry wolf for 1500 years and expect people to believe you anymore.
 

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Well, did they plan on forcing people world wide to have the same belief or die before? :)

Truth is, there is a global push now to begin the process of ultimately declaring an islamic state for the world, the so called Calipahate. Even the recognized leaders of countries like Iran have openly stated this goal (along with the destruction of Israel of course). Funny how we don't ever see that sort of thing (or the above article for example) on the evening news with Connie Chung. Seems pretty newsworthyto me... Anyway, anything/one not converted in the end will have to be either dead or seriously subjugated, "dhimmi", in their view.

Just because you don't believe, doesn't mean it wont happen..
 
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Mach170 said:
Well, did they plan on forcing people world wide to have the same belief or die before? :)



Just because you don't believe, doesn't mean it wont happen..

And, just because you DO believe means it will? :nono:
 

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And, just because you DO believe means it will? :nono:

I believe everything said in the Bible is true and will come to pass. Do I think Islam will force everyone to worship their belief? No because I wont believe what they do.
 

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