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Have a 2.3 Whipple with a built motor and looking to extract a bit more power from pump gas...
Have a 2.3 Whipple with a built motor and looking to extract a bit more power from pump gas...
Choices, choices!!!
Where do you get the meth? I read that windshield wiper fluid may work...
I've done one AIS kit.
You will lose some power unless you tune for it.
If you tune for it... Just depends on how far you push it. What's your timing now?
Are you going to be running 100% meth or 50/50?
FYI..Most of the windshield washer is just 30%-40% meth.
i disagree that you'll lose power unless you tune for it, unless the coyote does some funky stuff im just not aware of. Assuming you have an appropriatly sized nozzle, and the appropriate mix of methanol / water, it should only run better.
Too much water some people dont like to run any water at all) will not burn off completely and will replace either fuel or oxygen in the cylinders resulting in a loss of power. However, i wouldnt recommend running 100% methanol (not even from a safety standpoint) because water is much more effecient at absorbing heat, the methanol is just there to provide octane. I have done extensive testing on other platforms, both pre turbo and pre throttle body, and we found that an 80/20 mix by volume (most meth mixes are measured in weight) of methanol to water showed the best reduction in temperatures, as well as knock suppression.
Understanding it takes more flow for a PD blower than a turbo, i believe about 2x is actually the number, you would still have to be spraying a TON of WMI for it to not all be absorbed and rob power in the cylinders. Cooler is always better and will lead to more power. I imagine the Coyote has some sort of open loop fuel trimming as well to keep AFR's stable as well?
I understand where you are coming from... But your statment of:
because water is much more effecient at absorbing heat
What?? Ever poured alcohol on your hand? Is it COLD?? Or is water colder?
He needs more Octane, and this is a supplement instead of running race gas. No detonation protection required. (But it is nice added feature!)
I doubt the MS3's ever ran enough HP to worry about that problem.
You do not simply want to put a meth kit on these cars without having the car tuned for it.
If you do, you will more than likely lose power and pull timing due to running lean.
The coyote is different than previous gen cars. It compensates fuel alot more.
Most cars, if you dumped meth in, your adding more fuel to the car, along with a cooler intake charge.
With a coyote. The car is going to see the extra fuel in the widebands, and it's going to pull fuel from the injectors.
The problem is, meth has a stoich closer to 6 vs 14.64 for fuel. So, if your car is pulling say 15% fuel at a stoich of 14.64 and replacing it with 15% fuel with a stoich of 6.
Your effective stoich is around 13.34. We have seen this a few times with guys trying meth. We also saw it with out own car under testing.
Typically under wot with meth, you'll see your stft running about .85-.90 depending on the size of the jet.
I've done one AIS kit.
You will lose some power unless you tune for it.
If you tune for it... Just depends on how far you push it. What's your timing now?
Are you going to be running 100% meth or 50/50?
FYI..Most of the windshield washer is just 30%-40% meth.
I would like to know how you are going to account for it? You have to be able to turn off the computers ability adjust fuel which from what Ive read is disable the second O2 sensor but then if you have a boost reference setup like mine when not seeing boost the car will run lean. I know that when I've asked some of the big guns in tunning they told me that they were not interested. I also had a speed3 with meth and loved it ran like it was 30 degrees out when it was 100. My best with cobb stage 2 tunning, downpipe and intake with meth was 13.4 at 108.5.That is very good to know, I was planning on running a very small nozzle even NA to help with the Houston heat, I'll be sure to account for it.