If you have not heard already I had an engine failure in my 03 on Tuesday. It appears to have been a ring failure in 7. It really was not unexpected and I am currently planning on really setting it up right now.
Well I had an engine failure in my 03
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broken ring land on the piston?
ShelbyGuy said:
I have not broken it down yet, but that is what it looks like. The engine was running fine, but started blowing smoke. I pulled the plugs and 7 was full of oil. I have talked to several engine builders and the one I am probably going with Al Papitto in Vero Beach, Florida. He says with high boost it really is only time before the stock pistons go especially if you open track on bonsai the car. Between the skirt and how close the ring is to the top of the piston they just won't hold together.
Cobra-R said:
I think it is a combination. I have tracked the car without modifying the cooling system like I should have and the last time actually had a coolant blow out the pressure cap on my last session. The fact I am running a KenneBell at 17#s making 600 rwhp 500 rwtq just adds to it. I really should have been running race gas at the track and modified the cooling system. My new set-up will be much more conservative on the street, but should make 600 rwhp and 600 rwtq. I would probably also run that tune at the track with race gas. My fun tune with race gas should easily exceed 700 rwhp and 700 rwtq.
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I'm sorry to hear about your engine problem. Keep us posted on the cause and rebuild.
P/S (off-topic) Did anyone see "HorsePower TV" last weekend. They were working on a F-body Camaro. It spun a crank bearing. They had to remove the engine from under the car! They unbolted everything while the car sat on a lift and then lifted the car from it's engine and front suspension. They rolled the engine/suspension out with the front wheels still attached. Instead of "pulling the motor", I guess you could say they "pulled the body"?
P/S (off-topic) Did anyone see "HorsePower TV" last weekend. They were working on a F-body Camaro. It spun a crank bearing. They had to remove the engine from under the car! They unbolted everything while the car sat on a lift and then lifted the car from it's engine and front suspension. They rolled the engine/suspension out with the front wheels still attached. Instead of "pulling the motor", I guess you could say they "pulled the body"?
I've heard of a few instances like this on the 03's after bumping up the HP....I guess the stock numbers pretty much maxed out the durability of the components....
That sucks, sorry man, i know the feeling.
NJ2000R said:
Naaaaaaa
Toofast,
That sucks...
More Cooling mods are on the way....Evans came up with this flange. We need more coolant flow from the radiator...PM Sent
http://mustanglife.tenmagazines.com/showownerpic.asp?u=3874&n=104107&pos=7
http://mustanglife.tenmagazines.com/showownerpic.asp?u=3874&n=104106&pos=14
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slick piece
Damn, sorry to hear that. I know what you are going through though, my #7 piston also went.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151418
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151418
NJ2000R said:
The problem as I understand it is primarily due to the piston design to meet customer expectations and EPA standards. The rings are two close to the top of the piston. Also the forging is using a weak material that is actually two big for the cylender. This is to prevent the clanking that aftermarket forged pistons make when cold which would have some customers going nuts. The engine builder I am using said everything else in the 03 motor is very good stuff and doesn't really need to be changed.
03 Cobra Toy said:Naaaaaaa
Toofast,
That sucks...
More Cooling mods are on the way....Evans came up with this flange. We need more coolant flow from the radiator...PM Sent
http://mustanglife.tenmagazines.com/showownerpic.asp?u=3874&n=104107&pos=7
http://mustanglife.tenmagazines.com/showownerpic.asp?u=3874&n=104106&pos=14
I am contacting them now about buying it and everything else I need.
this is way i don't go with a KB or Whipple. I open track my car 4 times a years and i run it at stock boost with the eaton :bash: . and if i get at KB or Whipple in my car i will run it at stock boost about 13-14psi with my gordsford Heat exchanger and a new rad that i be install in the spring for this year open track event.I beleave run too high of boost, why'll open tracking your going to need race gas and prombley a good set of piston. 550hp and 500tq at the rear wheels should kick ass ;-)
What does this ticking sound like? A loud clock? Or banging metal? Everyone with an 03 or 04 seems to fear the TICK. When I had my Lightning this seemed to be a fear as well, is it something we 00R owners need to listen for too?
toofast4u said:
Thats what I've heard also....and #7 seems to be a popular # as I've heard of 2 other #7 failures besides the 2 mentioned here....
doing the apten cooling mod while you have it apart, or did you have that done already?
the rear of the drivers side cylinder head apparently has an area that develops pockets of coolant that dont flow.
the rear of the drivers side cylinder head apparently has an area that develops pockets of coolant that dont flow.
ShelbyGuy said:
I am doing that and several other cooling mods while I have it appart.
Ford should have installed knock sensors...Problem Fixed!!
Ping=piston melt down
Ping=piston melt down
they tried. blower made it too noisy for the sensor to hear the pinging.
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