I agree with James and Justin, go look at 5.8 prices. a VMP Gen 3 and cams will make way too much power. shit mine blew up with a shit tune and stock blower.
Exactly, and without a built motor, the stock 2.3 will make enough steam for 800+rwhp, so there’s not a need to swap blowers just yet. The Gen3 will make power with less boost, but that’s a big cash outlay that can go to better mods for now.The Gen 3 can make 700hp or 1100hp. 700-800hp isn't any more dangerous than power made with a Trinity. It'll also make the power more efficiently, with less belt slip and boost loss at the top end of the rpm range.
I understand the price issue but to the guy above saying cams and Gen 3 will "make too much power" is silly.Exactly, and without a built motor, the stock 2.3 will make enough steam for 800+rwhp, so there’s not a need to swap blowers just yet. The Gen3 will make power with less boost, but that’s a big cash outlay that can go to better mods for now.
-J
I understand the price issue but to the guy above saying cams and Gen 3 will "make too much power" is silly.
You can make shortblock killing power on the stock 2.3.I dont follow. Assuming you are running e85 or similar, gen 3 + cams in a 5.8 puts you at >1000whp. Way too much for stock lower. It would be fine on pump gas as you probably couldn't push it to point of danger for factory rods. A total waste to run that set up on pump but likely safe.
I dont follow. Assuming you are running e85 or similar, gen 3 + cams in a 5.8 puts you at >1000whp. Way too much for stock lower. It would be fine on pump gas as you probably couldn't push it to point of danger for factory rods. A total waste to run that set up on pump but likely safe.
That's one of the many reasons I went with the Gen3 TVS, I make more boost and power with a 2.6 upper on the Gen3 vs a 2.4 upper on Trinity TVS. And the cams will make more efficient HP and make the engine not work as hard, as you have said, adding lots of timing on E85 isn't the best thing for the rods, keep timing conservative, run good fuel, keep boost around 16 to 18 psi with cams and you'll make 800whp and the engine will live a long happy life.You don't magically install a blower and cams and make 1000hp. You can run a larger upper pulley and even stock crank pulley and be right around 750-800whp. You dont need to run a 2.4" upper and 15% lower with all the timing that E85 allows. With using a huge upper pulley on a Gen 3 vs a tiny upper pulley on a Trinity, the Gen 3 will run much cooler while providing more power and no boost bleed off like Trinity blowers do.
Good to have you here Andrew. Actually watched that vid earlier.
Great list and order, starting with suspension.
There’s a few of us here that have already done all of that and more, so we’re trying to offer advice.
I’m just trying to remind you these aren’t Terminators. The stock shortblock, specifically the rods and oil pump gears, are on borrowed time at over 750rwhp.
Couple quick thoughts.
First, you like drag racing. If you’re going to drag race this car recognize you’ll need gears and a built rear.
I had FOUR sets of gears in my built 8.8s before I put a 9” in it. Run bias ply only at strip. Get a rear brace.
You’ll absolutely love 4.10s on the street with DRs. Still a rocket on the highway. 80mph at 2000rpm with 4.10s.
Cams—well they sound good and do make the motor more efficient, but you’ll extend the RPM range, the hardest on the two weak links, rods and OPGs.
I’d save cams for when you want to do the shortblock.
Until then, you can have a LOT of fun at 800rwhp.
Good luck.
-J
there have been full weight gt500s with the stock tvs blower into the high 9s trapping near 140. A 10% or 15% overdrive balancer with stock upper, 1-7/8 longtube headers, throttle/plenum, jlt big cold air, 4.10 gears, along with other supporting modifications. Times will be shaved of by light to moderate weight reduction.I would of went 2" headers to let her breath because of the boost. Also do crank sprocket with the OPG's along with timing component upgrades. I also would not bother with cams with a Gen 3 as your bottom end is already maxed out once you throw it on. At 900hp I would hope low 9's/8's.
Which reminds me, what does a 1k rwhp GT500 run in the 1/4? Not stripped racecar times lol
If I was him I would just go ahead and work on doing a built motor before anything. Rods and pistons and a nice upgraded valvetrain and mild port job and let the thing keep trucking along to 1300rwhp+
I understand the price issue but to the guy above saying cams and Gen 3 will "make too much power" is silly.