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  1. nxhappy

    nxhappy Vette Killer Established Member

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    sup guys. I wanted to talk about trailers/toy haulers. I am looking at buying one to help during my move in a few months. I will be towing with a F150 5.4L which states a rating of 6600 lbs (I believe that is correct?) . I wanted to see what you guys tow, and what the weight is. If need be, I can swap the gears in the truck to maybe some 373s or 410s. I am thinking the ideal size would be a 22 foot or a 23 foot trailer. What are your thoughts and recommendations? This would be my first trailer. I have seen a few on Ebay in the $17-20k range. I might even live in the bitch for a few months hahaha. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

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  2. specracer

    specracer SVTOA MCA Premium Member

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    You need to know for sure your trucks tow capacity. Do not exceed it. You mention gears, to make it go better, but there are far more important things to consider, that is the suspension and most important, brakes.
     
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    SID297 OWNER/ADMIN Staff Member Administrator

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    Year of the truck and the type of trailer you’re looking at?


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    Just make sure the trailer weight full doesn't exceed your towing capacity. Won't matter if you put bigger brakes, bags under the rear and lower gearing to help tow when it comes to insurance/legal crap if something goes wrong. Very small chance but why risk it? Not to mention in the 1500 series towing a lot of weight in a box trailer(since you mention living in it) can be sketchy at times.

    What's your GCWR? That's the trailer load + total weight inside the truck. You could be under the towing capacity but if your truck is loaded up as well you may exceed the GCWR.

    I would confirm your towing capacity and then look at trailers that when loaded, fall under your rating.
     
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  5. AustinJ427

    AustinJ427 Well-Known Member Established Member Beer Money Bros.

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    I'm firmly in the camp of buying more truck than needed. Call it a safety net.

    I bought an F250 with the expectation of buying a 24' steel enclosed car trailer and ended up with aluminum, and I'm happy I did.

    Toy haulers aren't light, I would take the advice of the guys here and make sure you have enough truck for it.

    Also, regardless of what you buy, if it isn't brand new I would highly suggest putting a good set of towing pads and doing brake fluid with a decent dry/wet boiling point, not the garbage you find at autozone. It might run you an extra $400 for everything but I've seen your threads and it looks like you might be headed east, if you need to cross the Rockies, you'll be happy.
     
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    Its going to be hard to find a 22-23 foot trailer loaded under 6,600 pounds. Most of them dry are 5,000-5,500 give or take.

    If I remember right you have a early 2000 F150?

    I think the 6,600# limit is for a slide in camper. The trailer limit is 8,000-8,600 so you would be fine if thats the case.
     
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    Number one tip for buying a toy hauler...buy a 1-2 year old lightly used one with a warranty from a used dealer, that someone has already taken the MASSIVE depreciation on.

    That said, you'll absolutely hate life towing at the pointy end of that truck's towing capacity...even more so if you'll be encountering any changes in elevation.
     
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    You have to be over 6600lbs. My 08 Expedition with the 5.4 was rated around 9k. And the F150 should have a little more room. You'll want the gears to help getting over hills, but I've always been more concerned with stopping then going. What about a race trailer with a living area? It might be lighter than a toy hauler.
     
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    apex svt MEAN STREAK Established Member

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    We pulled about 7500# worth of boat. & trailer with a 5.4 expedition routinely. 400 mile trips one way.
     
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    Look here. Put your year, make model in and it'll tell you what you can tow and show you trailer options.
    Towing Guide

    You definitely don't want to tow near the max imo.
     
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    Item #1 is to determine your payload capacity. It's on a yellow sticker in the driver's side door jam.

    Tongue weight will subtract from your payload and will often times be the limiting factor on a half ton, not the towing capacity.

    Figure 10-13% of your trailer weight will end up as tongue weight.

    My 2015 F150 with towing package and 3.5ECO has a payload of 1,780lbs. 7,000lbs of trailer weight would equate to 910lbs of tongue weight, reducing my available payload to 870. My hitch is rated only for 5,000lbs, so add a weight distribution hitch, approximately 100lbs, now I'm down to 770. Subtract out my weight (240), now I'm down to 530. So on and so forth. Anything not stock ON the truck subtracts from payload.

    My truck is rates for 12,400lbs towing capacity, but I could never come close due to payload. The only way you can, is if the trailer itself is supporting the entire weight of the load, such as a hay wagon.

    Payload, payload, payload!

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    If the total weight of the trailer is more than 80% than your trucks capacity, i'd buy a bigger truck. You want leverage for weight such as gear, passengers, etc. I don't think power is much of a concern as is stopping and overall safety pulling with a smaller truck.
     
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    nxhappy Vette Killer Established Member

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    it's a 01 5.4, 4 door, I THOUGHT the max tow was 6600 maybe I am wrong? So when spec'ing the trailer, do you look at GVW or VW ??
     
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    nxhappy Vette Killer Established Member

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    4dr SuperCrew Lariat RWD Styleside 5.5 ft. SB, 8500 lbs
    this is for 2005 so a little newer
     
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    nxhappy Vette Killer Established Member

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    I found this on a PDF
    4x2 SuperCab 138.5" GVW 7,700 3.73/4.10 5.4L V8 2,114/2,054
     
  17. me32

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    What gear package do you have?
     
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    nxhappy Vette Killer Established Member

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    I believe 355
     
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    me32 BEASTLY SHELBY GT500 TVS Moderator

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    So you would be limited a little more so i think your 6600 is pretty close
     
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    Per the 2002 Ford towing guide. Your towing limit for a Supercrew RWD 3.55 gear 5.4 truck is 8,000#
     

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