Race red with black stripes.
These cars are HOT
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Race red with black stripes.
I had a convertible like that for about a week. Decided to keep the coupes instead. Good combo though.
I was one who you might say was bashing in the z 1320 time. You might say I still am. It's running the same time the zr1 did. Having said that the zr1 and 10.8/10.9 is ridiculously fast but it's not any better than the zr1.
ZR1's never ran this fast stock
A8 Z06:
[video=youtube_share;H34FHs9Pddw]http://youtu.be/H34FHs9Pddw[/video]
M7 Z06:
[video=youtube_share;_m9kZe1EOjw]http://youtu.be/_m9kZe1EOjw[/video]
I don't know if you're a C7 hater, a GM hater or what, but the performance this car produces is only rivaled by several cars. And this car is so much better than the ZR1 ever was in style and technology. Not to mention the base price is about $40k lower. I'm no fanboy or anything but you seem bent on talking nonsense about this car when it has clearly proven itself. It also ran Motortrend's figure 8 faster than anything except a Porsche 918, and it was only a split second slower. That's performance that we have seen documented. All I here about 350's is folklore. Don't be a fan boy. You can like something without throwing undeserved dirt on something else.
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Sure they have. The c7 has a tire advantage as seen by the lack of improvement with dr. The zr1 and z7 on dr run the same numbers.
Edit: top times stock on drag radials. Looks the same to me.
Z06: 10.38 @ 132
ZR1: 10.33 @ 133
Edit: top times stock on drag radials. Looks the same to me.
Z06: 10.38 @ 132
ZR1: 10.33 @ 133
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C7Z is also faster on road courses. It has much better interior and features. And I'll mention again, the base price is $79k. Give GM their props. At least they spent our tax money on building an amazing machine.
But slower to 150. Props on the dollar to performance ratio though!!
I don't think I could give them props. Yes it's a great car.. If you are lucky, the amount of issues people seem to be having with QC is hilarious. Even Chevy fans are ragging on them.
After owning a Vette and being a member of various Vette forums I can say that many complaints are exaggerated. The heat soak may be an actual issue but most big power supercharged cars commonly have that issue on track. As a whole most C7Z owners praise the car as the best they've owned. And many of those guys have owned various respected exotics. Many people complained about blown LS7's in the C6Z. My car had more miles than many when I sold it and the engine was still in one piece. Some folks also nit picked the 2014 Vette on paint and other issues. Mine was fine and trouble free. Don't believe everything you hear. Sure the car has some growing pains. But what 1st year car doesn't? Ford's QC is what seems hilarious right now. I posted a thread with a tech pack 350 with mixed top and bottom rear seats. There have also been others reported as showing up with the wrong equipment. What's funnier is the car missed the release date, and they dropped some late 2015's and have people clamoring over them because they're allegedly collector's items. What makes a 2015 any more collectible than a 2016? Come on Ford.
They did at the GT500 media event. 11.7 was quoted from the SVT team as the official time. I'll dig up one of the old videos when I get time.
The problem is people are translating the GT350R performance to the GT350. There is a decent gap between the two. Z51 Corvette performance is not ADM worthy when it pushes the car over the price of the Z51.
C7Z is an awesome car however I'm surprised that not all of the ZR1 owners didn't commit suicide after paying 40K for worse performing car with the same motor... or that they didn't write off GM as a whole...
I mean if ford came out with a new GT500 and put the 5.8 in it and sold it for 25k less, I'd be livid... and probably go by a vette haha
The LT4 is much different than the LS9.
I don't know if it's because I'm only interested in the R, but I wasn't the least bit "wowed" by it. Didn't get to drive it, of course. The shifter feels great. The steering wheel is a bit spongy. And I don't know what Ford did with the stripes now, but the ones on that car were swirled up pretty badly. One thing I never worried about with my stripes is them getting swirly. Weird. My bud at the dealership who I was talking to said the car was absolutely filthy when they got it. The detail person probably just took a dry rag to the car.
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You are going to wear yourself out trying to talk some sense into the fanbois. They just lack the cognitive processes required to be a true car guy. To them, brand loyalty is the only way to go.
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Not likely. I can separate emotion from logic. Even the guy at the dealership said that ADM was outrageous. $25K on a "run of the mill" GT350! He said some nimrod bought an R from one of their dealerships in Raleigh for $50K over MSRP and didn't even bat an eye! :nonono: Anyway, he and I both agreed that the car on their floor would be a good deal at it's $58K MSRP. At $83K, I'd rather look elsewhere at some tangibles. I can't pay $83K for a Mustang just for the feels.
lol ironic you post that in a reply full of brand loyalty. For every vette that is perfect, there is a dud, but the vette fanbois seems to brush those facts under the rug. The latest car and driver long term review of the car was horific, so its not like vettes are immune from QC issues. Its a great performing car, but in no ways is it perfect and for some the driving dynamic just is not appealing.
That is exactly my point, knowing and seeing the huge markup automatically will turn you away and make it seem underwhelming. If it was marked at sticker and you got to start it up and test drive it like any other car, your opinion would likely change
It's not the price that made it seem underwhelming. It's the fact that the R exists. That is what skews my opinion of it. It would be a good deal at its $58K MSRP, but I still wouldn't buy it. I'd always have that voice in the back of my head saying, "...but it's not an R." At sticker, I don't think there's another car on the planet with better bang for the buck.
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