Son1c Wax Home Brew Wax Thread -> ProtoWax -> Picture Heavy

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Being a waxaholic I've always been fascinated by paste waxes. Taking inspiration from dodo juice, rubbishboys, bouncers, and a few others I figured I'd take the plunge.
Note - I'd appreciate any and all positive input to help me better my wax, thank you

After a solid 12 hours of research I ordered up my initial supplies, heeding advise from those wiser I aimed to keep it simple initially.
Hit the ground running with my understanding of the basic essentials, I have a ton of products on order but this is basically what the first dozen of formulations have consisted of

I have had the DoDo Juice Home Brew kit for awhile now but haven't gotten around to brewing it, I figured there would never be a more perfect occasion to do so then to kick off my own home brewing with it.. Fun kit btw highly recommended!

Now for the production of Son1c's ProtoWax ..
ProtoWax 1 credit to dodo juice / dodofactory for this recipe
20g nuba
5g yellow beeswax
50ml coconut oil
Warming up the Coconut Oil so it turns into its liquid form, I'm assuming this is relatively how everyone does this?

Definitely a wax, but much too hard to be a good candidate for automotive wax production imo
Did not haze well / buff off well either, granted I used it on an non prepped wooden table..

Stay tuned..

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

It's interesting creating your own wax, being a consumer, you typically read the ingredients on the wax, for example beeswax, (obviously nuba will be in the mix), montan wax, candelilla wax, almond oil, etc, but actually working with them are totally different.

For example candelilla wax is incredibly hard, as well as carnauba, beeswax is pliable even more so when compared with these other two waxes..

Also the true Carnauba % in waxes, blows your mind when you're trying to develop a high content Carnauba wax and have it actually work! Very quickly can these turn to bricks.

When ProtoWax 1 was underway I was already concocting ProtoWax 2
15g nuba
5g white beeswax
15g candelilla wax
80 ml coconut oil

How much does a polar bear weigh? Enough to break the wax

Onto ProtoWax 3 while ProtoWax 2 cools..

ProtoWax 4
Dropped Wax contents down and bumped solvents up

Now we're getting somewhere! First ProtoWax I was happy with!

ProtoWax 5
Brewing..Brewing..Brewing..

Coconut based 30% wax contents
Too hard..

ProtoWax 6 .. 50/50 wax solvent split coconut and turpentine solvents nuba+beeswax

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

ProtoWax 7 ..

40% wax content 60% solvent content vast majority natural based

Too hard

ProtoWax 8 ..
While creating Son1c ProtoWax 8 the doorbell rang and UPS dropped this off..

Looks like I have a new solvent to play with

So naturally I created a Linseed oil based wax, decided 100% on linseed for this solvent
20g nuba
5g yellow beeswax
5g candelilla wax
70 ml raw linseed oil

Definitely has potential, but needs fine tuning and I imagine another solvent or two

ProtoWax 9 - At this point I developed some decent confidence especially after playing around with ProtoWax 4
I have picked up several containers for candidates for the finished product of Son1c home brew, so I did a 250 ml / ~8 oz pour

Great texture on this one, reminded me of some other production waxes, but I need to play around with my solvents as I'm not satisfied and workability needs to be top notch

ProtoWax 10 Heavy on the beeswax

Not bad but not where I want it

ProtoWax 11 Linseed V2

~30% wax

ProtoWax 12

20g nuba
10g white beeswax
20ml turpentine
20ml coconut oil
20ml linseed oil

Too hard

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

ProtoWax 13
Variation of 12

Still too hard

Trying to sleep last night I toss and turned what if I added this and that, reduced this and that lol, oddly addictive!

Have a few waxes on order, another solvent, silicone, almond oil, a couple other oils, several fragrances, and trying to find some dyes

While eating breakfast this morning I figured why not cook up that recipe I designed last night instead of getting the sleep I needed lol

ProtoWax 14 Progress...

This one has a higher wax content then ProtoWax 4, multiple solvent base, just based on looks and feel, 14 reminds me of an unrefined version of signature series II, turns to butter on the touch, a bit grainy for my taste atm though, haven't had the chance to test this on on anything as its also still drying being concocted ~2 hours ago

At this point I've basically depleted my coconut oil, my turpentine, beeswaxes are starting to take a hit, some field testing will be conducted today, ideally I'd like to test some beading and sheeting as well, will report back on that hopefully later today with results, pictures, and possibly some video!

For the record my waxes aren't a recipe in sequence, I have about 3 or 4 "strands" think DNA and I'm trying to evolve the strand, however the numbers correlate to production and not evolution

For fun.. Coconut Oil and another Container Test

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 5

the infamous CD test

Sheeting -- not an official test but

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ProtoWax 15

Halfway through application -> applied to whole CD

ProtoWax 16 BeesWax based

My home brewing buddy!

USPS and UPS delivered some new goodies today, felt like I did when I got my straight 8 kit! haha
Needless to say I had to put some of them to use!
ProtoWax 17 Pioneering territory , at least in my Wax World

~10 waxes are going out for further testing in a bit

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 6 !

Some real world testing, products tested on a unclayed, abused, unpolished truck, cleaned and IPA'd (as if there was anything there haha)

Waxed vs Non -> ProtoWax

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My waxes are currently wet on wet off, they'll buff off clean but I cannot get them to haze? Not that this is the biggest issue as I'm not opposed to wet on / off waxes -> as long as it does not turn to concrete like some waxes!

My stand outs .. ProtoWax 4 and ProtoWax 17

I will start with ProtoWax 17
This wax is entirely different from every other one of my productions, and it needs fine tuning however I was very happy with it's first formulation
Son1c Wax ProtoWax 17 Carnauba Beads and Sheeting - YouTube
Note my waxes are basically all natural currently, I haven't gotten to adding silicones and polymers .. yet

Beads and Sheeting!

ProtoWax 4
Son1c Home Brew Carnauba Wax ProtoWax 4 Beads and Sheeting - YouTube

For fun this one was posted onto instagram (edited)

Further ->

Son1c Wax ProtoWax 4 Beading and Sheeting - YouTube

Progress!

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 7

Son1c Wax has hit facebook -> Watch out for a facebook product give away down the road

https://www.facebook.com/Son1cWax
Son1c Wax also has its own domain now
www.Son1cWax.com
(Currently just a forward)

Since my last update I have picked up ~5 or so new solvents
With new solvents come new findings and new issues

I have also been trying to add some new ingredients to the mix

Any thoughts on this coconut oil?

It's cheaper than my last kind but doesn't smell half as sweet, the texture is different as well

This turpentine smells awful as well

I have been playing around with container ideas as well..
I'm really like this 4 oz

ProtoWax 21

ProtoWax 19

"Cool it"

Testing..

ProtoWax 18

Spy Cam

ProtoWax 20

ProtoWax 22

ProtoWax 21 -- enjoying the texture!

ProtoWax 19 -- Not bad either!

ProtoWax 23 - High hopes for this one as this formula has been improved and altered ~5 times

ProtoWax 22 - cooled -> looking a bit hard

Not solid nuba block hard, but the texture needs refinement, brittle you could say on this formulation, but new solvents new problems!

ProtoWax 24

ProtoWax 25 - High hopes for this one as well

What caused this (not 25)

To be continued..

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 7.5

ProtoWax 23

ProtoWax 25 my first hazer, pretty quick too, (majority of other successful ProtoWax 's have been wet on wet off)

ProtoWax 26 -> Steamy

ProtoWax 22

In the midst of all this I also whipped up a 15 oz of RTU Eco Touch Waterless Wash from my concentrate

To sum things up I'm very happy with how things are going, I'm definitely making progress and I have faith that I will be able to produce a quality product, I appreciate everyone's positive input and support! I need to do more testing with my more recent ProtoWax's hoping to have some time for this today but no promises as I need to detail my own car as he's 2 months over due!
Hopefully breaking out Rubbishboys Original Edition in spirit of my own wax production

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Forgot to post this
ProtoWax 16
Tried a 100% beeswax wax, simply for fun and experimentation, after over a day of cooling this is what I was left with

ProtoWax 16 100% Wax Content Yellow Bees Wax - YouTube

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 8*

ProtoWax 26 ...

Pretty clean buff off

Easy on, spread decently far, relatively easy off, became tacky when it was ready to buff off, good looks imo, tight beading imo

Note - surface prepped with multiple IPA wipedowns prior to each wax application

Control Group?

Bouncer's Wax Satsuma Rock

ProtoWax 25

So that was the good!
Now the bad..

ProtoWax 24 was a shot in the dark with a new solvent, I think I missed!

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 9

ProtoWax 27

Video Update
New ingredient's, new results

Son1c Wax ProtoWax 27 Carnauba Beads and Sheeting - YouTube

Sneak Peak of ProtoWax 28..

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 10

ProtoWax 31 Beading and Sheeting

Son1c Wax ProtoWax 31 - Beading and Sheeting - Paint and Tr - YouTube

I'm very happy with the progress
I truly believe and know that I can produce a quality product.

I was extremely impressed when I applied ProtoWax 31 to trim, as it not only darkened the trim, but the beading was outstanding

Can someone say fragrance testing?

ProtoWax 29

Played around with the formulation, and this one was a bust

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ProtoWax 31

Waxed

Control

Son1c Wax ProtoWax 31 - Beading and Sheeting - Paint + Trim - YouTube

I'm ecstatic with the progress of this wax, seems every day a new ingredient comes in for product testing, I've been able to allocate a lot of time to really get this moving, but more than anything else I appreciate the overwhelming positive support, because at the end of the day I'm producing this for you all!
So again I truly appreciate the support and I promise to give everything I have to produce a product worth using!

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 11

So much has happened with this since my last update, I'm now on ProtoWax 36 and the way this formula came to me was..just.. crazy.

I was on ProtoWax 34, still struggling with the buff off, laying awake in bed ingredients running through my head, wake up the next morning (prior to my alarm) and I just had an idea, something off the wall, a good stray away from my current leading ProtoWax --- created it, poured it, realized I was onto something but needed to alter an attribute, concocted 36 and poured, let it cool, have been testing ProtoWax 36 rigorously since. I am in love with it, I have almost achieved the wax I have been looking to create all along. Since ProtoWax 36's creation I have gotten into the hands of ~10 others and have all been fond of the wax

I had the opportunity to attend the Autogeek Member Detail Event on 6/29/13 and here are the results of Son1c Wax both vehicles were clayed, polished, and IPA'd prior to Son1c Wax application -- currently ProtoWax is a Wet on Wet off Wax --- with a cure time of ~15 minutes -- hope that makes sense

if it does not simply ask and I will try to clarify further

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Wet on -- Let haze for ~15 minutes

Buff off

Stay tuned and thanks for viewing

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 12 ..

Sending this out to, well I'll update on that later

ProtoWax 36 is hazing, being impatient it took me awhile to find that out, between ~15-30 minutes however so far it can really be buffed any time after 15 minutes (in testing thus far) it goes from wet -> tacky -> hazed

Applied to my clients vehicle yesterday

--> as Chris said, Who says silver can't shine!

R&D

ProtoWax 37 ProtoWax 38

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 13 .. Tying up loose ends ..

Current testing underway on 37 and 38, will brew 39 today as well -- however prior to that 36 is still the front runner

Tester submitted photo --- Blue + Green (37+38) were dropped hence the "crumbles" on top

The Dodge Charger a week later

ProtoWax's ->

Some more field testing of ProtoWax 36

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Son1c Wax ProtoWax 36 - Gloss, Beads, and Sheeting - YouTube

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 14

Pure T-1 Natural Brazilian Carnauba

Back in the Waxatory

ProtoWax 38 ProtoWax 39

Another ProtoWax 36 pour

Cooling.. Preview if you read one of the labels..

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SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 15

Research and Design never ceases..

A lot is going on with this, some I can't talk about yet, but please stay tuned

I applied ProtoWax 36 to a panel and let it sit for an hour, no problems buff off, let it sit for a day, no real issues buffing off, 2 days later no real issues buffing off, let it bake in the sun, day 3 it's still buffing off better than some waxes do right after application!

This was a huge goal for me, I want to create an extremely user friendly wax, so anyone can use it and achieve top quality results.

I've personally used waxes where I've felt yeah that's a nice shine.. but it's not worth the work..

Couple more ingredients inbound

I'm sending out two samples that once the users use a couple times / they feel as if they've gotten a feel and opinion of the wax I would like them to send it onto the next tester so that should be rolling in a week or two.

Some recent testing and tuning

SON1C · Jul 21, 2013

Update 16

Currently brewing the highest nuba content wax yet.. fingers crossed..

ProtoWax 27 Durability Update ( Two Weeks )
Washed with eco touch Waterless Wash
27

Control

As you can see the 27 was still beading well, and the control was lacking (unwaxed only thing on there was what eco touch WW left behind)

At the conclusion of this test 27 was stripped for further in house testing
Lime Prime followed with IPA wipedown