NYC police officer kills his own autistic young child. How could he ever have been a cop?

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Former NYC officer beats and forces his autistic 8 year old son to sleep in the garage in winter and the boy freezes to death - Ex-cop Michael Valva, found guilty of killing son with autism, sentenced

I can't imagine the fear this boy lived in during his short life and those hours prior to his death where the people he trusted and loved forced him to die a slow and painful death. As a parent this is heartbreaking to me and I pray little Thomas is in a much better place than his own abusive home.

There was a recent thread where quite a few of us lamented the lowered quality of police in this country. My question, both literal and rhetorical, is how was Michael Valva ever allowed to be an officer? Shouldn't psych evals revealed that he was a terrible person? As he was in his 40s, you have to wonder how many other people he abused in his personal and professional life.

And this isn't rural bum **** nowhere, it was New York City. Records show he was paid over $100k for his last full year of service.

Anyone have any input on how the guy could have even made it to a position of authority?

This isn't meant to be anti-LE as a whole, just critical of this guy and possibly hiring policies. I'm conservative and many like me are blindly pro-LE but I am neutral, I look at the facts of each individual situation and will come off as both pro-LE and anti-LE given the circumstances.
 
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It chokes me up even reading about it. That poor little dude.
I feel guilty just putting my 2 year old in timeout for a minute.
 

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It chokes me up even reading about it. That poor little dude.
I feel guilty just putting my 2 year old in timeout for a minute.

Just terrible isn't it? The guy was either a sociopath (or other extreme mental disorder) or had some chemical addiction. Either way, he should never have allowed to have a badge.

The fact the woman involved went with the story and is facing homicide charges makes the story even worse.

But ya, my boy will be 4 in a couple months and I definitely used to feel guilty about putting him in timeouts. I don't anymore as he is now choosing to disobey after several warnings. I wonder where he gets his rebellious spirit from :unsure:
 

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There's sociopaths everywhere in every profession.

Maybe the department knew he was off but didn't care or maybe he was good at hiding those tendencies at work. I have to admit I do not care how big the police unions have gotten in terms of power.

Is his ex-fiancee being charged with the death too?
Or is she busted cause she went along with a fake story?
 

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There's sociopaths everywhere in every profession.

Maybe the department knew he was off but didn't care or maybe he was good at hiding those tendencies at work. I have to admit I do not care how big the police unions have gotten in terms of power.

Is his ex-fiancee being charged with the death too?
Or is she busted cause she went along with a fake story?

I agree about sociopaths being in every profession, however, most professions do not have the weight of the government behind the sociopath, benefit of the doubt, power to arrest and inflict violence upon those who do not cooperate.

Other articles show she played an active role in the abuse -
On another note, that article says there was video surveillance in the home that caught the abuse. Was this guy retarded also? He was at least starving and beating these kids before the death, didn't he think that the video could eventually implicate him in those crimes?
 

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The end of the article said dude was suspended in light of the allegations... he wasn't a retired cop, he was a cop

If responding to me, I never said retired, rather former cop as he no longer is one. Yes, he was on the force at the time.

No one gets the benefit of the doubt from me anymore. I don’t give a shit what your profession is.

Bingo. Cops, doctors, teachers, president, congress, etc all have their own agenda and that agenda may or may not align with my beliefs.
 

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Thanks to my Bing homepage for giving me this wonderful story right away in the morning.

Former NYC officer beats and forces his autistic 8 year old son to sleep in the garage in winter and the boy freezes to death - Ex-cop Michael Valva, found guilty of killing son with autism, sentenced

I can't imagine the fear this boy lived in during his short life and those hours prior to his death where the people he trusted and loved forced him to die a slow and painful death. As a parent this is heartbreaking to me and I pray little Thomas is in a much better place than his own abusive home.

There was a recent thread where quite a few of us lamented the lowered quality of police in this country. My question, both literal and rhetorical, is how was Michael Valva ever allowed to be an officer? Shouldn't psych evals revealed that he was a terrible person? As he was in his 40s, you have to wonder how many other people he abused in his personal and professional life.

And this isn't rural bum **** nowhere, it was New York City. Records show he was paid over $100k for his last full year of service.

Anyone have any input on how the guy could have even made it to a position of authority?

This isn't meant to be anti-LE as a whole, just critical of this guy and possibly hiring policies. I'm conservative and many like me are blindly pro-LE but I am neutral, I look at the facts of each individual situation and will come off as both pro-LE and anti-LE given the circumstances.
First off this is heart breaking. It makes me sick to think this poor kid went through all that.

To answer your question no vetting process is full proof and scum bags always sneak through.

I saw this in the military with certain people becoming pilots and in some cases enlisted receiving security clearances.

Again no process is full proof and the idea of perfection for those that protect us will never happen. You can defund, disband and re-hire all you want but bad apples will always be there.
 

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What a shitbag.

i think “shit bag” was left in the table, when he was 12… stealing $20s out of his mama’s bag and killing kittens….

This mother****er is at a level, to which the word has not yet been invented…

May he burn for enternity and then again and again!
 
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Freeze him within an inch of death, warm him up and then do it again. Every day for the rest of his miserable life.
 

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I agree about sociopaths being in every profession, however, most professions do not have the weight of the government behind the sociopath, benefit of the doubt, power to arrest and inflict violence upon those who do not cooperate.

Other articles show she played an active role in the abuse -
On another note, that article says there was video surveillance in the home that caught the abuse. Was this guy retarded also? He was at least starving and beating these kids before the death, didn't he think that the video could eventually implicate him in those crimes?

For sure and that's a big issue. Cops carry a lot of power around and if there are a few bad apples they can ruin someones life.
If this guy could do that to his own son, it definitely is a legit question on if his career as a cop was full of mistakes that could of had life changing consequences for others.
 

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Why would ANYBODY want to be a police officer, especially today? They get zero respect the majority of the time. That explains why there are so many dirt bags in law enforcement, we're scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill the positions. Most respectable and honest men & women no longer want a career in it.

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Why would ANYBODY want to be a police officer, especially today? They get zero respect the majority of the time. That explains why there are so many dirt bags in law enforcement, we're scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill the positions. Most respectable and honest men & women no longer want a career in it.

U.M.

This is true, at least in big cities or high crime areas. To me it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. Did the disrespect for police happen before the abuse of power by police or vice versa?

Regardless, once that feedback loop is established, relations between so called "marginalized" groups and the police will only deteriorate until some "truce" is established. This leads to what you describe in your post where both sides vehemently hate each other.
 

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Why would ANYBODY want to be a police officer, especially today? They get zero respect the majority of the time. That explains why there are so many dirt bags in law enforcement, we're scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill the positions. Most respectable and honest men & women no longer want a career in it.

U.M.

This really isn’t true.

The current narrative on police started under Obama, intensified under Trump as an act against him, and has kindof leveled off at a low under Biden.

One problem is the internet. For every one bad event/public contacts, there’s literally millions of positive ones.

So what if a shit bag doesn’t show LE respect? We’ve been dealing with that since the beginning of time for the most part. Sure, it’s worse now. Pussy late generation boomers and Gen X created a lot of pussy kids that don’t really respect anybody.

I do agree with “who would want to be a cop” in some instances. I’d never be a city cop. Look who you’re dealing with. Bunch of crybaby kids that want to run and fight and then cry the minute you thump them.

No thanks.

I really haven’t noticed a difference in respect or gratitude or whatever we want to call it. Personally, I get a little embarrassed when anybody thanks me for this or that, but it happens all the time. Some even try and apologize about how LE is treated now.

The one I remember the most was right in the middle of all the BLM BS. I was off duty in jeans and T-shirt but while putting my carryon in the overhead on the plane I guess my service weapon and badge popped out for a moment. I sat down and a little old black lady leaned down, touched my shoulder and said thank you for what you do.

She probably felt as bad about the shit she sees on tv as I did.

Let’s remember that it isn’t just this profession that struggles to find good people. Anyone from about 40-75 on here could very well have an 18-35yr old worthless, pussy kid at home that can’t/won’t work and can’t even make their own bed.


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