Number 8 fail

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Fightermatt go to SCTs site and get the instructions on datalogging. Datalog it and then send the logs to your tuner for review.

fightermatt,

If you would like, I'd be happy to get you in contact with one of our lead Bama Tuning Specialists. They'll walk you through the datalogging process and review your logs afterwards. Then tweaks your tune accordingly, if necessary.

Send me your First/Last name and shipping address. I'll get you taken care of!

Shane

Thanks for the advice Yager, and Shane I sent you a PM with my info.
 

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after all this i wish i only had 7 cylinders.my car has 29000 miles and now i am scared to do anything..
 

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im not sure if my guess is spot on but my car has 45k miles and previous owner had a tune and she runs strong, so I think maybe this cyl 8 thing is limited to some cars. some people have to s of issues and some none. I have read stories of STOCK tuned motors popping. I am very happy with bama's customer service and their revised tune for my wifes car.it is the driving force behind my purchase of my bama tune for my 11. I know anytime you mod a car there is a risk.
 

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I still do not understand what people don't understand here.

A datalog has been posted of a Bama tune, as you can see the timing is very aggressive causing knock..... What's hard to understand here?..... It's in the tune
 

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yes and every car is different. what is your point? aed does the same thing bama does sends a base tune and the adjusts the datalog.
 

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yes and every car is different. what is your point? aed does the same thing bama does sends a base tune and the adjusts the datalog.


First of all, Bama does not send a base tune for data logging. They will however review a datalog if you have an issue.

Furthermore, after I sent Bama datalogs absolutely nothing changed! I then moved on and went with AED.

On the same tank of gas that Bama gave me a knockig tune AED gave me a more powerful, better driving tune and it had absolutely ZERO knock.

So what's your point?

And to further my argument 29 degrees on pump gas is too much timing.
 
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But Bama commands completely different values than almost any other tuner does. That's the problem.

There are hundreds of satisfied customers and no one has proven that the bama tune was responsible for the failure.

plus a simple google search yielded results of many cyl #8 failures that were stock and tuned. lund was on a few of em. so was bbr.

First of all, Bama does not send a base tune for data logging. They will however review a datalog if you have an issue.

Furthermore, after I sent Bama datalogs absolutely nothing changed! I then moved on and went with AED.

On the same tank of gas that Bama gave me a knockig tune AED gave me a more powerful, better driving tune and it had absolutely ZERO knock.

So what's your point?

And to further my argument 29 degrees on pump gas is too much timing.

the bama rep I spoke to instructed me to datalog and send it to bama.

apparently your car didnt like the tune characteristics, but many others have and do.

im glad you are satisfied with your aed tune and in no way am I bashing it, but my car may respond better to bama, or steeda or jimbobs tuning shop.

the 29 ° of timing was addressed by a previous poster as well as a a.m rep.

I get it that your experience was less than satisfactory, but quit trying to force feed your aed tune.
it does nothing but make people nervous and stray away from tuners in general. the point I am making and will repeat is, every car is different and will perform differently. Every tune is different and must be adjusted accordingly. so quit trying to make it seem like every bama tune is junk. if you dont like em dont give em your business. simple.
 
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There are hundreds of satisfied customers and no one has proven that the bama tune was responsible for the failure.

plus a simple google search yielded results of many cyl #8 failures that were stock and tuned. lund was on a few of em. so was bbr.



the bama rep I spoke to instructed me to datalog and send it to bama.

apparently your car didnt like the tune characteristics, but many others have and do.

im glad you are satisfied with your aed tune and in no way am I bashing it, but my car may respond better to bama, or steeda or jimbobs tuning shop.

the 29 ° of timing was addressed by a previous poster as well as a a.m rep.

I get it that your experience was less than satisfactory, but quit trying to force feed your aed tune.
it does nothing but make people nervous and stray away from tuners in general. the point I am making and will repeat is, every car is different and will perform differently. Every tune is different and must be adjusted accordingly. so quit trying to make it seem like every bama tune is junk. if you dont like em dont give em your business. simple.

Seriously you're a dolt dude.

All these motors are the same internally. You're "every" motor is different on a stock internal engine is ridiculous. Also the issue isn't with driving characteristicsof Bama, it's the timing at WOT that is the issue. Sorry these motors do not vary in such a way that one motor will allow aggressive timing and the other will not, assuming they are both healthy motors and stock internally. Too much timing is too much timing.Period. Lmao 29 degrees is just flat out period too much timing for these motors on pump gas @ WOT. Go talk to any tuner man, tell them you want 29-30 degrees in your tune, see what they say.


Funny my logs , my friends logs, and other people around the country all show knock with aggressive timing...... I wonder why.

I don't care what an AM rep says, he's not a tuner. I gave BAMA the chance to fix it, and they didn't. It still knocked. So WTF? Why couldn't they get it right?? I tried 3 times.....

Also, there have been BAMA motor failures, and some of the threads have info deleted/missing hmmmm......

In addition, on the SAME tank of gas I got a tune that didn't knock. Go figure....


I could give a shit less if people want to use Bama. Good for them, most of them do not datalog their car and they will never know. It's a free tune when you buy a tuner and free tunes for lifeeeee.


I would let ANYONE but BAMA tune my car. This isn't me saying AED 4 lyfe, however Shaun seems to have figured out something good with these cars.


Shit I wanted it to work out with BAMA would have saved me some
money.....
 

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Good for you that you like AED. I could go on another forum and they would only swear by VMP tuning. The fact is Bama has tuned more car than both these tuners combined. Plenty of guys over 50k miles with bama trouble free no tuner can guarantee the motor wont go.
 

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Good for you that you like AED. I could go on another forum and they would only swear by VMP tuning. The fact is Bama has tuned more car than both these tuners combined. Plenty of guys over 50k miles with bama trouble free no tuner can guarantee the motor wont go.

Knocking for 50k miles.:rockon:, did they actually beat on their car?


Case and point. Datalog ANY tune, I don't care if Jesus tuned it...

This should be common practice, unfortunately most will just ride out until shit blows up.
 

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Good for you that you like AED. I could go on another forum and they would only swear by VMP tuning. The fact is Bama has tuned more car than both these tuners combined. Plenty of guys over 50k miles with bama trouble free no tuner can guarantee the motor wont go.


85% of the cars out there running Bama tunes will never see anything more than the occasional highway pull against a Camaro or rice rocket. Fact is that Bama caters their tunes to the sector of the public "auto enthusiasts" that don't know jack shot about their car, other than "it's a Mustang and it goes fast." They buy anything they can be sold that makes their car "faster". They don't push their cars to the limits, so of course there will be very little failures.
 

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I am hard on my car every day i show it no mercy. All 8 of my cylinders are still doing fine. Just like 1000s of other guys pretty sure nobody is going to the track every day. Btw i run my car to 7700 rpms idk how much harder you could be on a car.
 

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Seriously you're a dolt dude.

All these motors are the same internally. You're "every" motor is different on a stock internal engine is ridiculous. Also the issue isn't with driving characteristicsof Bama, it's the timing at WOT that is the issue. Sorry these motors do not vary in such a way that one motor will allow aggressive timing and the other will not, assuming they are both healthy motors and stock internally. Too much timing is too much timing.Period. Lmao 29 degrees is just flat out period too much timing for these motors on pump gas @ WOT. Go talk to any tuner man, tell them you want 29-30 degrees in your tune, see what they say.


Funny my logs , my friends logs, and other people around the country all show knock with aggressive timing...... I wonder why.

I don't care what an AM rep says, he's not a tuner. I gave BAMA the chance to fix it, and they didn't. It still knocked. So WTF? Why couldn't they get it right?? I tried 3 times.....

Also, there have been BAMA motor failures, and some of the threads have info deleted/missing hmmmm......

In addition, on the SAME tank of gas I got a tune that didn't knock. Go figure....


I could give a shit less if people want to use Bama. Good for them, most of them do not datalog their car and they will never know. It's a free tune when you buy a tuner and free tunes for lifeeeee.


I would let ANYONE but BAMA tune my car. This isn't me saying AED 4 lyfe, however Shaun seems to have figured out something good with these cars.


Shit I wanted it to work out with BAMA would have saved me some
money.....

I am a stupid person? show me where I said that every motor is different internally?

what I said was every CAR is different. If I am wrong go put 4 cars on the same dyno or datalog 4 cars at the same time same temp same da etc and show me they run exactly the same.

As for your repetitious aed answer, once more I am glad that aed got YOUR car to perform and make you happy, but you cannot guarantee that he could get EVERY car to run the same or take hundreds of cars like bama does and have them run flawlessly.

the AM rep I have no response to whether they were a tuner or not, I used the number provided by AMShane on so many threads to contact them.

Really a bama conspiracy theory? I suppose the moon landing was staged too?

listen man, I am done with this thread. until the o.p responds and shows that the tune was responsible all of your posts are here by considered hogwash.
 

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85% of the cars out there running Bama tunes will never see anything more than the occasional highway pull against a Camaro or rice rocket. Fact is that Bama caters their tunes to the sector of the public "auto enthusiasts" that don't know jack shot about their car, other than "it's a Mustang and it goes fast." They buy anything they can be sold that makes their car "faster". They don't push their cars to the limits, so of course there will be very little failures.

This....smh
 

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you cant compare the Bama service level with AED's. With bama you get free tunes for life for $150 whereby AED's prices start at $450! and you get what you pay for. Bama probably tunes cars on mass scale and cant put the level of attention AEd puts.
 

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