I'm betting that having better rubber than the base ZL1 allowed the 1LE to pull out of corners harder. I'd bet that the R still has faster entry and transit speeds through the corners. That's where the 200 lbs weight advantage comes into play.
Motor Trend ZL1 vs GT350R
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I'm betting that having better rubber than the base ZL1 allowed the 1LE to pull out of corners harder. I'd bet that the R still has faster entry and transit speeds through the corners. That's where the 200 lbs weight advantage comes into play.
How big of a difference do you think hard mounted suspension makes?
The suspension is a huge factor here as well, the tires are also better than the Trofeo's that came on the Z/28. Those multimatic spool valve dampers are insane, hard mounting them was just icing on otherwise delicious cake, the added rigidity should add more precise control. Doesn't hurt that the car lost 75lbs or so...and some of that was unsprung weight.
Are those times from the same day, same driver?
Different day but same driver. Randy also put up over a second quicker lap in another ZL1 in a previous test.
So we do not have any true head to head data between the two? Other than a general trend, that makes this comparison a little difficult to determine.
True. Randy did drive the new ACR twice on track at LS. Once was the 1.28.65, once at 1.31.58. Which is almost 3 full second gap just on day/tire differences.
Exactly my point.
True!
Yes it's great to see the true capabilities of a showroom vehicle, and the advancements being made. However...
The entire point of lap times is mute anyway. The car is only as fast as the driver.
To prove this point a year ago at sears point a 15 mustang gt, a c7z, and a 991 gt3 were on track. Times were 1.52, 1.57, and 1.58. The man in the mustang gt was simply a better driver....
What was the quote..."you don't want to drive faster around corners than this car can take you", or to that effect on the street.
Cornering fast is a blast on the street but no one wants to risk a mistake that could change your life forever by taking a 15mph corner at 50mph.
Essentially the new cobraR vs what they considered to be a luxury car. A more fair test of the two would've been a track pack GT350 vs the ZL1, or ZL1 1LE vs GT350R. Which is hopefully coming. Either way the GT350 needs more powa.
To me clear victory for the ZL1. Which goes back to the GT350 needs more powa comment.
Shush your mouth. I just bought this damn HC. I will only consider a move back to Ford if the next GT500 comes ready for battle with the 10spd auto. I know too many people that had shifting issues with the TR6060 to consider another ford manual trans.
I do that all the time in my Shelbys. My GT500 still has me concerned whether or not I'll be facing the right way coming out sometimes, but the R takes it like, "Pffft! Weak sauce!"
One lane road with drop off or mountain could be an expensive lesson if one is a tenth or two late. Not mention sliding the tail when there's on coming traffic the other way.
My point being, being in jail or maimed can change a life in a hurry.
My point being, being in jail or maimed can change a life in a hurry.
I have a friend with a 16 zl1 10 speed convertible in SA that might be down.
Is it a stock ZL1 or any mods? Mine is stock to the tire and paper filter. Just looking to compare them. Find out and let me know!
I'd love to see a comparison with the ZL1 wearing the same tires as the Shelby. I'm not a fan of goodyear and if I were to buy a ZL1 I'd be sorely tempted to unload them immediately for a set of Michelins.
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