Malaysian flight down near the Russian border
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i thought it was Australians, not Americans?
This flight, when shot down, was at 33,000 feet and headed to Malaysia, within an international flight route. Malaysia, is not a back water hell hole.
they were hardly the only ones doing it. unfortunately the area lies within a main corridor for travel from europe to asia.
Going after revenge for 24 or however many potential Americans could end up in a situation costing millions of lives. Sorry about the loss of life, but we should stay out, and people should really watch where they choose to travel.
Zen, those were the numbers on the news reports last evening, I have not looked for an update. As reported, they were taken from the flight manifest.
NC85, there are many steps, short of a shooting war. Also, the USA is an industrialized Nation who's economic well being depends upon trade and commerce with other Countries. Not to have active travel by our Citizens is impossible.
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Nobody laughed at or even mentioned your previous attempt to make a funny by posting an irrelevant movie poster about the subject. Why don't you just keep this thread on topic and stop trying to be a comedian all the time?
Back on topic...seems like early US intel believes this is from the pro-Russia rebels.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2014/07/18/mh17-crash-ukraine/12821271/
Image from fox news looked like a SA-11 system
This could seriously get way oit of hand quick...i however think we have no dog in this fight ATT. However something needs to be done but not by us imo
This could seriously get way oit of hand quick...i however think we have no dog in this fight ATT. However something needs to be done but not by us imo
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uh oh, someone is drinking again.
Yes, but USA is not and should not responsible for your well being the second you step foot off of american soil, save for military of course.
If an american citizen is traveling abroad they are doing so under their own jurisdiction and responsible for their own well being at that point.
Obama has announced that there was one American Citizen aboard the downed airliner. The principal of protecting American Citizens and interest remains the same.
Spot on. Hence the reason the State Dept issues travel warnings to certain areas of the world. Travel at your own risk.
Yup, the United States should not be the world's police force. If an American wants to travel into hostile areas of the world, they should do it at their own risk.
Thomas, with all due respect, you are wrong. An American Citizen, who has committed no crimes, is due the protection of his Country. I add to this, one is responsible to take all reasonable care of one's self as your first line of security.
One is considered an acceptable loss.
Yes it is unacceptable to that persons family but is the big picture it is quite acceptable.
If the Russians did do this, it is the 3rd time in history they have shot down a commercial airliner.
Active travel is fine, at your own risk. This area of the world I'd avoid flying over like the herp.
What I don't understand is why everyone is automatically jumping down Russia's throat while hardly mentioning the rebels who actually pushed the button. I understand Russia has it's hands all over this by supplying backing and equipment, but its not like Russia gave them the equipment knowing they would accidentally shoot down a civilian plane.
Don't get me wrong, Russia needs to be held accountable for the part they have played in this, but I'd like to see some heat of the rebels as well.
Don't get me wrong, Russia needs to be held accountable for the part they have played in this, but I'd like to see some heat of the rebels as well.
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