This is going to be a long read so get some coffee.... Ill wait
So back story:
My car runs AWESOME for the first 2 pulls.. after that it gets seriously heat soaked. I have seen IAT2's in the 155's pretty easily.. A 2.2 is a hot box anyways, spin it to 21psi.. it doesnt get better. So with all that knowledge in my back pocket I set out to fix the issue. Of course I could go trunk tank and have a little more reserve fluid to keep the heat down for a while longer.. I already had a AFCO dual pass h/e, but that just didn't seem effective enough for me. That will get the fluid no colder then ambient. So I looked at the killer chiller. What an awesome looking setup and such a great idea! However the drawback is while it freeze's the fluid down, it only does the amount of fluid you have on hand and then has to re-cool it. I had a aftermarket intercooler tank which as most do, only holds about a gallon or less. Hmm what if I combined solutions so that canyon runs, back to back freeway runs, and maybe even an open track day would net me even more time on COLD fluid.
So thats where the path starts. Get a tank built and install the KC. Unfortunately since I have owned the car I have always had AC issues. I rebuilt the AC a few years ago, replaced all the seals and drier.. but it always had a small leak that would require me to keep re-filling. A serious PITA in Southern California. So my plan was to do it once and do it right... This has been a experience for sure.
I ordered the following:
New compressor
New condensor
New seals
New drier
Pag oil and Freon
AC flush setup
New valve cores
Trunk tank
All fittings and hoses and accessories
Onto the pics (description will be above the pic)
New condensor (i would later find that this would cost me countless hours of fitment issues)
AC flusher, way too expensive for what it is but it worked great so i cant complain
The freon I thought I needed that I ordered first. The amazon seller was not interested in allowing me to return this.. so i sold it on CL for the same price i payed the next day!
50 ft of 3/4" heater hose, which i used ALL of.. yes ALL 50 feet. I was surprised
Ordered 3 of these. I didnt want plastic in there to break off so i scoured the net to find these expensive bitches. 1" npt to 3/4 barb in aluminum (i was concerned with brass and aluminum being dissimilar)
All the random pieces needed (some 90 elbows, 1.75" adel clamps, worm gears, and clear 3/4 for tank install portion)
The badass trunk tank i had made! Rule 1100 (hope thats enough) pump and about a 5-6gallon capacity.
The first trip to home depot for insulation. I bought 30 feet and ended up buying around 60 feet I think.
Intercooler pump connector (this is an EV1 connector for anyone interested). I didnt want to snip the stick one so i used this.
The crowning jewel! Gen3 KC. Had to wait a little while for it to show up, but you know what they say. Good things come to those who wait! Joe is awesome btw. More on that later.
Started tear down of car and AC system.
Oh thank you mishimoto for your totally micket mouse radiator mount. This issue here... I've spent hours trying to resolve. More on that later...
Mod #1 trying to bend the mount out of the way
Mod #2 bend it more
Mod #3 bend it to the max
Ok cool that clears now. Moving onto other things.
Old compressor was NASTY
Seems to be missing something
My flushing evap configuration
This flush fluid was clear before i started...
Poor car is apart more then together these days
Trunk tank fitment
Pump shot
Little issue with the mounting tabs to figure out..
With fittings
Gonna have to insulate this bad boy to keep the sweat down..
This has to go so it will sit flush (first major welded on piece of car that I have removed.. tear)
Hmmm I like this look.. but I've had it for a while. Lets see if I can sell them for some FR500's!
Installed with insulation
Creating the hold downs/mounts
Gonna be drilling some large holes here soon.. Largest I have ever drilled in the car.. tear
Oooo Youll like the way it looks, i guarantee it
Starting the routing to the front.. what a bitch with all that insulation.. ugh
Hmm these are totally off the car now and someone is interested.. but wants the whole setup. Hmm
Cool it fits!
Drivers side line install now
Start the KC install now, I always see people hack up the foam.. I wanted it to look good
Mounted it sideways as they say it gives you better performance.
Love how it turned out
Hmmm I ended up selling the wheels, now I have a little money from wheels and a little extra from the pocket book. Whats on the market.. Ill let the suspense build.
So this had to be purchased because I tried to remove the valve core to replace it..
Come to find out the damn thing was basically welded in the line.. Which upon removal attempt i twisted and mangled the aluminum tube $100 mistake :bash:
I then cut it off so i could make sure from the other end it was replaceable.. sure enough just gunked up
So I started assembling the AC
and ran into this shit AGAIN, since the KC has a add on assembly it no longer fit by the mount. UGGGGHHHH More HOURS spent
Mod #4? I cut a notch to clear the fitting... Yea not enough
So i said F it and cut all the mount off above the top mount bolt. Ill make a box to go around the lines and back up to the rad mount later (maybe)
I had to cut more of the foam bumper off so get all the lines in.. Ended up cutting off the mount.. then I said well crap now how do i afix it to the bumper?!
So i made a little bracket
No way insulation is fitting in there...
Snug
Vacuuming down AC, but what are those in the background there?!
Finally threw in 6 gallons of fluid and started up the pump. Worked very well!
Proof read edit: I will update this post after tonight when i get the car back together (hopefully).
To explain why Joe is awesome, he was going through some family stuff this last month and still managed to deal with me calling every week and get my kit sent out. And then last night i was very confused why I couldnt find a spot for the damn orifice tube and looked all around the net but couldnt find out where it was. So at 9pm last night i called Joe hoping he would answer and he DID! He was kinda nd explained it was already installed which made me extremely happy as that meant i was another step closer.
The whole freon thing.. they make the ES12a in two flavors... the Normal r134 replacement and then the industrial stuff. Thats what i needed and found (for a pretty high price) else where on the internet. I have prime through amazon so i try to get everything from them..
Lastly for this update is the weight.. it IS a concern to me (and others apparently ) though at this power level I suppose ~100lb is slightly marginal if it helps performance, which this should.
Here are the calculations on exactly what weight I added..
Heater hose is ~12lbs dry (50ft holds 1.15 gallons x 9.388lb per gallon) -> 10.79lb+12lb = ~23lbs
50/50 coolant/water is 9.388lbs per gallon
Trunk tank itself weighs ~13lbs
6 gallons of 50/50 is ~57lbs
killer chiller weighs about 12lbs
Total added to car (this does not take into account front afco DP exchanger removal [I deleted the fluid H/E path altogether and have a stock in place to fill the sapce], front intercooler tank removal, and fluid in both items removal)
~105lbs
Which is around the weight i saved with the UPR k member, except it was shifted to the rear of the car where it needs to be. I would love to get the car on a set of corner scales and see where its at..
OHH and less i forget...
So back story:
My car runs AWESOME for the first 2 pulls.. after that it gets seriously heat soaked. I have seen IAT2's in the 155's pretty easily.. A 2.2 is a hot box anyways, spin it to 21psi.. it doesnt get better. So with all that knowledge in my back pocket I set out to fix the issue. Of course I could go trunk tank and have a little more reserve fluid to keep the heat down for a while longer.. I already had a AFCO dual pass h/e, but that just didn't seem effective enough for me. That will get the fluid no colder then ambient. So I looked at the killer chiller. What an awesome looking setup and such a great idea! However the drawback is while it freeze's the fluid down, it only does the amount of fluid you have on hand and then has to re-cool it. I had a aftermarket intercooler tank which as most do, only holds about a gallon or less. Hmm what if I combined solutions so that canyon runs, back to back freeway runs, and maybe even an open track day would net me even more time on COLD fluid.
So thats where the path starts. Get a tank built and install the KC. Unfortunately since I have owned the car I have always had AC issues. I rebuilt the AC a few years ago, replaced all the seals and drier.. but it always had a small leak that would require me to keep re-filling. A serious PITA in Southern California. So my plan was to do it once and do it right... This has been a experience for sure.
I ordered the following:
New compressor
New condensor
New seals
New drier
Pag oil and Freon
AC flush setup
New valve cores
Trunk tank
All fittings and hoses and accessories
Onto the pics (description will be above the pic)
New condensor (i would later find that this would cost me countless hours of fitment issues)
AC flusher, way too expensive for what it is but it worked great so i cant complain
The freon I thought I needed that I ordered first. The amazon seller was not interested in allowing me to return this.. so i sold it on CL for the same price i payed the next day!
50 ft of 3/4" heater hose, which i used ALL of.. yes ALL 50 feet. I was surprised
Ordered 3 of these. I didnt want plastic in there to break off so i scoured the net to find these expensive bitches. 1" npt to 3/4 barb in aluminum (i was concerned with brass and aluminum being dissimilar)
All the random pieces needed (some 90 elbows, 1.75" adel clamps, worm gears, and clear 3/4 for tank install portion)
The badass trunk tank i had made! Rule 1100 (hope thats enough) pump and about a 5-6gallon capacity.
The first trip to home depot for insulation. I bought 30 feet and ended up buying around 60 feet I think.
Intercooler pump connector (this is an EV1 connector for anyone interested). I didnt want to snip the stick one so i used this.
The crowning jewel! Gen3 KC. Had to wait a little while for it to show up, but you know what they say. Good things come to those who wait! Joe is awesome btw. More on that later.
Started tear down of car and AC system.
Oh thank you mishimoto for your totally micket mouse radiator mount. This issue here... I've spent hours trying to resolve. More on that later...
Mod #1 trying to bend the mount out of the way
Mod #2 bend it more
Mod #3 bend it to the max
Ok cool that clears now. Moving onto other things.
Old compressor was NASTY
Seems to be missing something
My flushing evap configuration
This flush fluid was clear before i started...
Poor car is apart more then together these days
Trunk tank fitment
Pump shot
Little issue with the mounting tabs to figure out..
With fittings
Gonna have to insulate this bad boy to keep the sweat down..
This has to go so it will sit flush (first major welded on piece of car that I have removed.. tear)
Hmmm I like this look.. but I've had it for a while. Lets see if I can sell them for some FR500's!
Installed with insulation
Creating the hold downs/mounts
Gonna be drilling some large holes here soon.. Largest I have ever drilled in the car.. tear
Oooo Youll like the way it looks, i guarantee it
Starting the routing to the front.. what a bitch with all that insulation.. ugh
Hmm these are totally off the car now and someone is interested.. but wants the whole setup. Hmm
Cool it fits!
Drivers side line install now
Start the KC install now, I always see people hack up the foam.. I wanted it to look good
Mounted it sideways as they say it gives you better performance.
Love how it turned out
Hmmm I ended up selling the wheels, now I have a little money from wheels and a little extra from the pocket book. Whats on the market.. Ill let the suspense build.
So this had to be purchased because I tried to remove the valve core to replace it..
Come to find out the damn thing was basically welded in the line.. Which upon removal attempt i twisted and mangled the aluminum tube $100 mistake :bash:
I then cut it off so i could make sure from the other end it was replaceable.. sure enough just gunked up
So I started assembling the AC
and ran into this shit AGAIN, since the KC has a add on assembly it no longer fit by the mount. UGGGGHHHH More HOURS spent
Mod #4? I cut a notch to clear the fitting... Yea not enough
So i said F it and cut all the mount off above the top mount bolt. Ill make a box to go around the lines and back up to the rad mount later (maybe)
I had to cut more of the foam bumper off so get all the lines in.. Ended up cutting off the mount.. then I said well crap now how do i afix it to the bumper?!
So i made a little bracket
No way insulation is fitting in there...
Snug
Vacuuming down AC, but what are those in the background there?!
Finally threw in 6 gallons of fluid and started up the pump. Worked very well!
Proof read edit: I will update this post after tonight when i get the car back together (hopefully).
To explain why Joe is awesome, he was going through some family stuff this last month and still managed to deal with me calling every week and get my kit sent out. And then last night i was very confused why I couldnt find a spot for the damn orifice tube and looked all around the net but couldnt find out where it was. So at 9pm last night i called Joe hoping he would answer and he DID! He was kinda nd explained it was already installed which made me extremely happy as that meant i was another step closer.
The whole freon thing.. they make the ES12a in two flavors... the Normal r134 replacement and then the industrial stuff. Thats what i needed and found (for a pretty high price) else where on the internet. I have prime through amazon so i try to get everything from them..
Lastly for this update is the weight.. it IS a concern to me (and others apparently ) though at this power level I suppose ~100lb is slightly marginal if it helps performance, which this should.
Here are the calculations on exactly what weight I added..
Heater hose is ~12lbs dry (50ft holds 1.15 gallons x 9.388lb per gallon) -> 10.79lb+12lb = ~23lbs
50/50 coolant/water is 9.388lbs per gallon
Trunk tank itself weighs ~13lbs
6 gallons of 50/50 is ~57lbs
killer chiller weighs about 12lbs
Total added to car (this does not take into account front afco DP exchanger removal [I deleted the fluid H/E path altogether and have a stock in place to fill the sapce], front intercooler tank removal, and fluid in both items removal)
~105lbs
Which is around the weight i saved with the UPR k member, except it was shifted to the rear of the car where it needs to be. I would love to get the car on a set of corner scales and see where its at..
OHH and less i forget...