Kenne Bell 2.4L Kit Info Released

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Sweet, it says no advantage unless pushing more that 24psi? I guess this is for the all out racer, like me:)
 

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Well I think its the HP level we have to look at, so if we get 600+rwhp on 19psi, I cant even imagine what gains we can get at 30psi. I think people are going to start to see that our limit is low 700rwhp and thats pushing it, and i'm talking for your average car not a trailor queen.
 

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Didn't the guys at procharger look over the 03's drivetrain and say that it was good for something like 1100whp? If the KB can only hit 700whp it looks like centris or turbos are going to be where it's at.
 

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It goes up to 30psi?? Can our cars even handle that?

I think Haveight was running around 30 and ended up blowing the spark plug out of the head. :shrug: Use at your own risk I guess.
 

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Originally posted by ReducedFat
Didn't the guys at procharger look over the 03's drivetrain and say that it was good for something like 1100whp? If the KB can only hit 700whp it looks like centris or turbos are going to be where it's at.

1100RWHP?!?! Dude, I seriously doubt that our motors can handle anything more than 700+rwhp for an extisensive amount of time. I'm not talking about hitting 1100rwhp once on the dyno and then not seeing it again, i am talking about the car lasting a couple of 1100rwhp blasts, IMO it would not last long at all. I think low 700rwhp, and it can withstand it, anything more and I think it would be short lived. Again this is my opinion and obervation from what I have seen. Hell I would love for our motors to withstand 1100rwhp, but I just dont see it.
 

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This is Matt on Trey's account and yes I did launch a plug mostly because of the Boost:eek: and bad tune!
 

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ok i want to clear this up. so lets say you take the 2.2 kb and a 2.4 kb, set both at lets say 17 psi, same tune same everything. they will both produce the same hp? is that what kb is trying to say? so the only advantage is that the new kb can go higher in boost?
 

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of course not. the advert says in the very same sentence, that it flows 9% more. 2.4/2.2 = 109. An internal combustion engine is just a big air pump. with both blowers at 17psi, the larger displacement unit is pushing 9% more air at the same pressure than the smaller unit. the more air and fuel you can shove into an engine, the more power you will make.


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ok i want to clear this up. so lets say you take the 2.2 kb and a 2.4 kb, set both at lets say 17 psi, same tune same everything. they will both produce the same hp? is that what kb is trying to say? so the only advantage is that the new kb can go higher in boost?
 

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I agree with Shelbyguy. 9% is 9% I believe the gains would be minimal, but gains none the less.

2.4KB or Turbokit hmmm
 

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of course not. the advert says in the very same sentence, that it flows 9% more. 2.4/2.2 = 109. An internal combustion engine is just a big air pump. with both blowers at 17psi, the larger displacement unit is pushing 9% more air at the same pressure than the smaller unit. the more air and fuel you can shove into an engine, the more power you will make.
Yes, and no. The engine's ability to use the air is a big factor. With the blower making 17psi at a particular CFM flow rate for the engine's intake. The 2.4 can maintain 17psi at a 9% higher flow. Using the same engine, because the 2.4 flows more air it will be at 17psi at a lower blower speed than the 2.2. You may gain some extra hp because the engine doesn't have to work to spin the blower as fast, but at the same time the parts are bigger so there is more weight. So it may cancel out. The real difference comes at the higher psi where the 2.2 becomes inefficient because you have to spin it so fast to maintain the higher boost as the engine is swallowing what the blower is putting out. I think this would really show up on a cammed motor that breathes that much better at the higher rpms.
 
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Originally posted by jasil
I agree with Shelbyguy. 9% is 9% I believe the gains would be minimal, but gains none the less.

2.4KB or Turbokit hmmm
A turbo kit will make more power but will be 2x the price. There's a guy with a MachI tt setup making well over 500hp at 8psi. He just added the turbo kit. www.inductionconcepts.com Sweet setup if you have the $$$
 

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Originally posted by LTHL PSI
Well I think its the HP level we have to look at, so if we get 600+rwhp on 19psi, I cant even imagine what gains we can get at 30psi. I think people are going to start to see that our limit is low 700rwhp and thats pushing it, and i'm talking for your average car not a trailor queen.

Hammer did 715rwhp at 26psi. I would buy one if I could get 700rwhp @21
 

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I have had 8 turbocharged cars/kits and am very partial to a turbo. Cost is the only prohibitive factor right now.

How much power do I really need? The big plus about turbo kits is you can run the power that you want. 550-600rwhp on the street and add race gas turn up the boost (without having to touch anything, but you boost controller) and put down 700-900rwhp. That is a pretty mean kit.
 

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